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Latest comment: 12 years ago by Vituzzu


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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
A clear policy about bureaucratship has been drafted by consensus, I'll implement it into wikidata:bureaucrats within some hours.--Vituzzu (talk) 20:40, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Becoming a crat

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Latest comment: 12 years ago91 comments47 people in discussion

Voting (1)

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The standard of 8 votes support and 80% support is upheld.

Voting (2)

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15 support votes and 80% support is the minimum required to become a bureaucrat.

Admins

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Bureaucrats must be admins.

 Neutral My original statement above puts me at an oppose however Jasper Deng puts me towards a support so for now, neutral. John F. Lewis (talk) 03:21, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
  •  Comment In response to those who say the roles are technically distinct, this is actually not the case. Bureaucrats do not have the move-rootuserpages and move-subpages permissions, for instance, and those would be essential for automatically moving pages when renaming users, especially for those with userspace subpages. suppressredirect would also be helpful for any necessary page moves.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:17, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Although it is very unlikely, I don't see a reason why this has to be mandatory. Mabdul (talk) 08:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
  •  Oppose --Guerillero | Talk 05:28, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
  •  Support as de facto. --β16 - (talk) 20:53, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
  •  Support -- as a non-admin will (almost) certainly never pass an RFB, let's just save the the trouble of having non-admins try to file an RFB and get snowed under. Jakob Megaphone, Telescope 01:40, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
  •  Emot - I have for a short period been crat without being a sysop. I found some problems with that, so I do not recomend it. But I do not think there is a need for a rule about something like that. If we some day find a good reason to have a crat who isn't sysop, then we do not have to change the rules. -- Lavallen (block) 18:04, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Self-sufficiency of rights

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Provided that there is no consensus that bureaucrats must also be admins, the bureaucrat toolkit shall be modified to included move-subpages, suppressredirect, and tboverride.

  •  Proposed in response to Jasper's points above. Obviously this provision will be moot if there's a consensus that 'crats must also be sysops, as I've noted. I haven't included move-rootuserpages, since currently we allow all registered users to do this. I'd also like to know what others think of including browsearchive, deletedhistory, and deletedtext rights, as these could be important in regards to RFAs. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 06:12, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
    I uderstand this proposal. Although, I'm sure we'll never have a non.admin passing an RfB. You need experience as an admin to be a crat, and although this is not written, I'm sure this is what the community does think. — ΛΧΣ21 06:22, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
  •  Comment Well, I don't think a 'crat must necessarily have those permissions. Moving user pages can also be done by several admins after a user was renamed. Furthermore, I don't see why 'crats should have tboverride. override-antispoof should be sufficient in this case. But don't count this as oppose, please. (By the way, on dewiki we had had a bureaucrat without admin rights. Just the user renaming task is not so comfortable without sysop access.) Regards, Vogone talk 15:24, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Crat roles

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Latest comment: 12 years ago327 comments43 people in discussion

Standard

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Bureaucrats can add the sysop, bureaucrat, bot, and translation admin flags following a successful rights request. They can rename users.

Resignation

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Bureaucrats can remove bot, and translation admin flags due to voluntary resignation.

Rights removal (vote)

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Bureaucrats can remove bot, and translation admin flags following a rights removal request that is successful.

Rights removal (emergency)

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Bureaucrats may remove the bot or translationadmin flag in an emergency situation.

Regranting rights (1)

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Rights that are voluntarily resigned under uncontroversial circumstances can be reassigned by a bureaucrat.

Regranting rights (2)

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Rights that are voluntarily resigned under uncontroversial circumstances can be reassigned by a bureaucrat, as long as they still are eligible to hold them under any applicable inactivity policy.

Regranting rights (3)

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Rights that are voluntarily resigned under uncontroversial circumstances cannot be reassigned by a bureaucrat without a fresh request for the permission approved by the usual community process.

Mailing list

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A bureaucrat mailing list should be created for RTV/privacy-related issues or to draw attention to urgent matters. It should only be used for such.

Usurpations

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Usurpations of accounts with no live edits are permitted.

Closing removal discussions

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Bureaucrats are tasked with closing rights removal discussions (sysop, crat) and bringing them to Meta.

Recusal

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Bureaucrats should refrain from closing rights discussions that they have participated in.

Discounting votes

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Bureaucrats are allowed to use discretion when closing rights requests that have been affected by canvassing (on this wiki, on other WMF wikis, or outside of Wikimedia) or socking.

Renaming by stewards

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Usually, a rename should be carried out by a bureaucrat. However, if a user requests a rename on m:SRUC on another project, and asks that the renaming steward also rename them on any other wikis where they're allowed to, the steward may rename them here, provided that there's no reason to think that the specific renaming would be controversial locally.

Vanishing

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If a user wishes to vanish from Wikidata, they may contact a bureaucrat, either in private, on the bureaucrats' noticeboard, or through the bureaucrats' mailing list (assuming the relevant proposal here passes). They will be renamed (e.g. to "Vanished user 123456789"), have any rights removed, and have their userpages deleted (generally, their user talk page should be blanked but not deleted). Vanishing is typically a one-way road, and should a vanished user return under a new account, they are advised to disclose this to the bureaucrat corps; depending on the circumstances, they may be instructed to disclose this on their userpage.

Losing the crat flag

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Inactivity

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The crat flag will be removed with the admin flag when the admin flag is removed due to inactivity, or when the admin flag would be removed if the crat is not an admin.

By vote

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50%

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The crat flag can be removed by a 50% vote in support of removing the crat flag, or 50% vote in support of removing the admin flag.

1/3

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The crat flag can be removed by a 1/3 vote in support of removing the crat flag, or 50% vote in support of removing the admin flag.

Reconfirmation (1)

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Bureaucrats must be reconfirmed every 2 years.

Reconfirmation (2)

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The bureaucrat flag is to be retained except when lost under the inactivity or under a rights removal request, or by voluntary resignation.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
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