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AXISCADES Technologies Limited has released the transcript of its Q4 FY '25 Earnings Conference Call, highlighting a significant milestone of crossing Rs. 1,000 crores in consolidated revenue for the fiscal year. The company reported a 7.9% revenue growth, driven by its core verticals of Aerospace, Defense, and ESAI, while also undergoing a transformation to enhance product-led growth and improve margins. The management aims for a 50% increase in EBITDA and a shift towards a more product-driven revenue model in the coming years.

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AXISCADES Technologies Limited has released the transcript of its Q4 FY '25 Earnings Conference Call, highlighting a significant milestone of crossing Rs. 1,000 crores in consolidated revenue for the fiscal year. The company reported a 7.9% revenue growth, driven by its core verticals of Aerospace, Defense, and ESAI, while also undergoing a transformation to enhance product-led growth and improve margins. The management aims for a 50% increase in EBITDA and a shift towards a more product-driven revenue model in the coming years.

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June 03, 2025

The Manager Listing Department


Dppt. Of Corporate Services National Stock Exchange of India Limited
BSE Limited Exchange Plaza, 5 Floor, Plot C/1, G Block
Phirozee Jeejeebhoy Tower, Dalal Street Bandra – Kurla Complex, Bandra(E),
Mumbai 400 001 Mumbai 400 051
BSE Scrip Code: 532395 NSE Symbol: AXISCADES

Dear Sir/Madam,

Sub: Transcript of the Earnings Conference Call with the Investor(s)/Analyst(s)

Further to our intimation dated May 27, 2025, please find enclosed the transcript of the
Earnings Conference Call with the Investor(s)/Analyst(s) which is hosted on the website of the
Company at [Link]

We request you to kindly take the above on record as required under the SEBI (Listing
Obligations and Disclosure Requirements) Regulations, 2015.

Yours truly,

For AXISCADES Technologies Limited


Sonal Digitally signed
by Sonal Dudani

Dudani Date: 2025.06.03


[Link] +05'30'

Sonal Dudani
Company Secretary & Compliance Officer

AXISCADES Technologies Limited


(formerly AXISCADES Engineering Technologies Limited)
CIN No.: L72200KA1990PLC084435

Reg. Office: Block C, Second Floor, Kirloskar Business Park, Bengaluru -560024, Karnataka, INDIA
Ph: +91 80 4193 9000 | Fax: +91 80 4193 9099 | Email: info@[Link] | [Link]
“AXISCADES Technologies Limited Q4 FY '25
Earnings Conference Call”

May 27, 2025

MANAGEMENT: DR. SAMPATH RAVINARAYANAN – CHAIRMAN,


AXISCADES TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED
MR. ALFONSO MARTINEZ – MANAGING DIRECTOR AND
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, AXISCADES
TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED
MR. SHASHIDHAR S. K. – CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER,
AXISCADES TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED
MR. ANURAG SHARMA – PRESIDENT (ESAI & CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER), ADD-SOLUTION, AXISCADES
TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED
MR. SHARADHI BABU – PRESIDENT (DEFENSE),
AXISCADES TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED
MR. D. MURALI KRISHNAN – CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER,
AXISCADES TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED
MS. SANGEETA TRIPATHI – HEAD (INVESTOR RELATIONS),
AXISCADES TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED
MODERATOR: MR. SUMEET KHAITAN – MUFG INTIME

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Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Q4 and FY '25 Earnings Conference Call
of AXISCADES Technologies Limited hosted by MUFG Intime.

As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there will be an
opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance
during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touchtone
phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

I now hand the conference over to Ms. Sangeeta Tripathi. Thank you, and over to you, ma'am.

Sangeeta Tripathi: Thank you, moderator. Good evening, everyone. And welcome to the Q4 FY ‘25 and the full
year FY ‘25 Results Conference call of AXISCADES Technologies Limited.

I am joined today by our leadership team to provide a brief overview of the business performance
and financial results, along with our strategy ahead. We have with us today, Dr. Sampath
Ravinarayanan – our Chairman; Mr. Alfonso Martinez – our Managing Director and CEO; D.
Murali Krishnan – our Chief Operating Officer; Mr. Shashidhar S. K. – our CFO; Mr. Anurag
Sharma – our President (ESAI), and CEO – add-solution, along with Mr. Sharadhi Babu – our
President of Defense.

Before we begin, please note that this call may contain forward-looking statements based on
Company's current expectations, beliefs and opinions. These statements involve risks and
uncertainties, and the actual results may differ materially.

Now I hand over the call to our CFO – Mr. Shashidhar S. K. Over to you, sir.

Shashidhar S. K.: Thank you, Sangeeta. Good evening, everyone. And I am delighted to welcome you all to this
Earnings Call for Q4 FY ‘25 and the full-year FY ‘25.

I hope you all had an opportunity to review our press release and the investor presentation which
are available under the Investor section of our website. And the same are accessible in the BSE
and NSE websites too.

To begin with, despite the challenging macroeconomic scenario in certain of our non-core
verticals, we are delighted to report that we have closed the Financial Year FY ‘25 with a
significant milestone of crossing Rs. 1,000 crores in consolidated revenue. While we are
recalibrating our automotive, energy and heavy engineering verticals, our growth was led by our
focus verticals of Aerospace, Defense and ESAI.

The full year revenue for FY 2025 was at Rs. 1,031 crores, recording a growth of 7.9% over the
previous year in Rupee terms and 5.7% in constant Dollar terms. While the reported EBITDA
for the year is at Rs. 142 crores, a growth of 7% over the previous year, the adjusted EBITDA
came at Rs. 156 crores, a growth of 17% over the previous year, adjusting for non-recurring and

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one-time expenses incurred in Q3 and Q4. Our PAT grew by 2.25x over the previous year at Rs.
75.26 crores, as against Rs. 33.41 crores in FY ‘24, leading to a diluted EPS doubling from Rs.
7.74 to Rs. 17.22.

The Company since Q3 of FY ‘25, under the guidance of our Chairman, has embarked on major
business transformation initiatives to turbocharge the business and achieve non-linear product-
led growth, both in revenue and margins, in each of our core verticals, namely aerospace, defense
and ESAI.

The Company is also evaluating and recalibrating its non-core businesses of heavy engineering,
energy and automotive, which are till date negatively impacted by macro factors and are growth
and margin dilutive to the enterprise, as has been elaborated in our investor presentation.

The Company is deploying resources and costs for this transformation, which is expected to be
stabilized by Q2 of FY ‘26. These costs and investments are critical to ensure enterprise
readiness to progressively achieve our aspirational target of achieving $1 billion revenue by
2030.

Coming back to our business performance in FY ’25:

Our core domains grew by 12% from Rs. 671 crores to Rs. 749 crores driven by aerospace,
which grew by 13% to Rs. 322 crores and defense, which grew by 16% to Rs. 303 crores, with
production revenues from defense growing by 19% to Rs. 198 crores.

Our non-core businesses of heavy engineering, automotive and energy together constituted Rs.
282 crores in revenue, a 3% de-growth over previous year. Automotive and heavy engineering
together de-grew by 7% to Rs. 238 crores and energy vertical at Rs. 43 crores grew by 30% on
a small base.

The core verticals continue to record healthy EBITDA margins at 19.1%, and is being diluted to
13.8% at an enterprise level due to negative margins in the non-core businesses. The reported
EBITDA margin is at 13.8% for the year, which is the same as in previous year, despite the fact
that the company incurred one time a non-recurring cost of around Rs. 14 crores in Q3 and Q4,
mainly in senior leadership settlements, legal costs and one time consulting for our automotive
business. Adjusting for this, the EBITDA margin for the year is at 15%.

Considering only our core businesses of aerospace, defense and ESAI, our EBITDA margins are
at a healthy average of 19.1%, with aerospace coming in at 21.2%, ESAI at 23.9% and defense
at 15%. Of the defense revenues of Rs. 303 crores, if you only take defense production revenues,
which was at Rs. 198 crores, the EBITDA is actually at 22%. So, the prototype revenues of
defense at about Rs. 105 crores were very marginal and slightly negative from the point of view
of EBITDA.

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We intend to improve our EBITDA margins by about 300 bps each year. We focus on non-linear
product-driven growth in core verticals and realignment of non-core verticals. As stated, our
core verticals are already yielding EBITDA margins of 19%. With effective execution of
product-led strategy, by FY ‘28, the Company aims to invert its current revenue mix of 80%
service revenue and 20% product revenue, which will be the key driver for non-linear margin-
led growth, with the aim and objective of achieving an average of 24% EBITDA in the next 2 to
3 years.

With respect to business performance in Q4 of FY ‘25, the Company's revenue was at Rs. 268
crores, growing by 4.8% year-on-year and de-growing by about 2.4% quarter-on-quarter as the
execution of some of the defense programs moved to the right. The Company's reported
EBITDA was at Rs. 37 crores at 14% margin and adjusted EBITDA was at Rs. 45 crores at
16.8% margin.

The Company has been able to significantly reduce its finance cost from Rs. 56 crores to Rs. 32
crores with repayment of borrowings from QIP proceeds. The Company's net debt is just at about
Rs. 15 odd crores excluding lease liabilities with gross debt standing at Rs. 189 crores and cash,
bank and liquid investments at Rs. 174 crores. The Company has a healthy balance sheet with
shareholders' equities standing at INR 656 crores as against INR 592 crores in the previous year.

To conclude, we are highly enthusiastic and committed on our path ahead. Our focus on scalable,
product-led growth underpinned by significant investments in infrastructure and leadership
positions us for sustained long-term growth. This strategy will enable us to unlock substantial
value for our investors and stakeholders.

I now invite our CEO, Mr. Alfonso Martinez, to provide his views.

Alfonso Martinez: Thank you, Shashidhar. And good afternoon, everybody. I am really happy and pleased to
participate in this call , this being my 1st Quarter Presentation as a Group CEO. And
complementing Shashi’s presentation and speech, I would like to highlight the transformation
of the Company that we are currently driving. This transformation is going into three axis as
mentioned in the presentation.

• First is people. I am very pleased to announce that now our new management team is
in place. We have all the presidents in place. We have veterans of the industry in a
leadership position for the last 30 years. And this is already starting to boost our
relationships with our clients. An amount of progress is being done in that aspect. This
will lead, no doubt, to an impressive growth. We are also starting to train our existing
sales force into a new way of selling, a new way of engaging with the clients.
• The second axis of the transformation is moving from the traditional services to
products and solutions. This is key for the margin expansion that we are forecasting.

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• And third, the investments in key assets with very high return. And this is already, as
we will discuss later in the presentation of our Chief Operating Officer, leading to a
new area.

As a golden rule for next year, I would like to say we have three key objectives:

1. A minimum growth of EBITDA of 50% excluding ESOP cost. That's the very, very
first target.
2. The profit after taxes will increase proportionally.
3. We want to increase the quality of our revenues. With that, at least 300 basis points of
EBITDA percentage improvement. This will lead to all the future

But for this year, these are the three parameters that we are targeting. And as a golden rule, we
will achieve.

Now, I would like to lead my presidents to present you the different verticals. Unfortunately,
Mohanakrishnan, our new President for Aerospace, is not present. He is in a very important
client meeting today, and I will take his part.

Starting by aerospace, I will say that our target for Fiscal Year '26 is at least 35% growth in
revenues. That will change the path of growth of the previous years. Deepening engineering
expertise, now empowered with artificial intelligence, moving from traditional service to really
disruptive solutions. Some of our services are already ongoing this transformation with
spectacular results.

Also, we are building manufacturing and supply chain solutions. This action is particularly
driven by Mohanakrishnan who comes with a strong background in these areas of
manufacturing and supply chain.

Our current Airbus engagement, our number one client in aerospace, we as a strategic supplier
are long-term settled with that. We are about $40 million of yearly revenues and this is a long-
term establish. We are also discussing to expand this partnership from these areas into new fields.
And also forging new partnerships with the OEMs on Tier-1s of aviation. As you can know,
India has become the center of gravity of commercial aviation. And that's a very, very important
point in our strategy.

With that, I would let the word to Sharadhi Babu in defense. He will explain you the keys of this
vertical. Please, Sharadhi Babu.

Sharadhi Babu: Thank you, Alfonso. Good evening, everyone. This is Sharadhi Babu – President of Defense at
AXISCADES. And as you heard, we have created a very strong base for defense business with
a stellar performance at Rs. 303 crores. And we continue our focus on defense production and

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also very specific focus on new product development, especially in the areas of radar, electronic
warfare, missile systems and unmanned warfare systems.

And right now we are on a very strong growth path. And we expect the growth to be at a rate of
about 75% moving forward and also a similar focus on the bottom line also. And our order books
are now reaching about Rs. 1,800 crores. And we hope this emergency procurement also will
actually have some success for us. And then going forward we are looking at a very, very strong
defense growth.

And also, we are having a very strong practice going on at the OEMs. And there are many
programs coming up at the OEM level. Overall, we are looking at addressing the entire DRDO
and also the MOD practice and also the OEM programs.

And with that, I would like to hand over the session to Mr. Anurag Sharma, who is the Head of
our Electronics, Semiconductors and Artificial Intelligence. Thank you.

Anurag Sharma: Hi. Good evening, everyone. I am Anurag Sharma. I am President of ESAI, which is basically
Electronics, Semiconductor and Artificial Intelligence wing of AXISCADES.

Now I would like to tell you that why three? What is the combination of these three? So, this is
the combination of electronic semiconductor and artificial intelligence is the one which is
churning out the fastest and most innovative products across the globe. And this is the space
where we already belong. And we have a very robust pipeline in terms of the order book. We
are close to Rs. 600 crores plus of order books with us. We are doing a growth of 60%, more
than 60%.

And speaking more specifically on the products, we have a lot of focus on products. Products
are not new to us. We have been doing products, but now we are offering complete system level
products. And for that we have taken a new initiative. We have started a product development
center in Fremont in California, where we have multiple products which are being
conceptualized, developed, tested, and then manufactured across the globe.

We also have started a lot of sales reinforcement in Europe with our headquarters being in
Germany. And we are trying to set up a product sales ecosystem across various channels,
resellers. And so the idea is that both our products and solutions shall reach to maximum clients.

We also have our Company add-solution in Germany, where we are doing a lot of wiring harness
development and also specific products like micro data center and also solutions like thermal
management. So, all these initiatives are with a view to increase our presence in this sector across
the globe. And increase our revenues.

So, with that, I would like to give the mic to my colleague and COO, Mr. Murali Krishnan.

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D. Murali Krishnan: Thank you, Anurag. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is Murali Krishnan, Chief
Operating Officer of AXISCADES.

We have seen a vision in our Chairman's statement which is there in our investment presentation.
We have a vision to become $1 billion Company in 2030. We call this as Power 930. As a COO,
I take responsibility to carry out this vision. This vision is also coming up with a high EBITDA
of 24%, and this vision is going to be driven by flipping our product versus services revenue.
From today, at a level of 20% products, we are going to move to a 80% product and solutions-
based organization.

So, in order to enable this, I would do three things. First, enable the organization to deliver the
AOP with the right processes, with the right resources. Two, transform the organization for the
future. And three, provide world-class facilities and resources to take up our Power 930 vision.

This infrastructure is going to come up in two places. One is called as DAC, Devanahalli
Atmanirbhar Complex at Bangalore which is a 20 acre facility. This is going to come up in 3
phases. Phase-1 is going to handle radar and electronic warfare solution, development,
manufacturing, testing, and maintenance.

Phase-2 is for missile complex, missile MRO as well as missile manufacturing, while missile
MRO would happen at Bangalore. We also are planning to set up another facility at Hyderabad
to establish our presence in missile manufacturing.

Phase-3 would come up with MRO, speed shop and supply chain facilities for aerospace and
defense customers. We want to construct this facility in 3 years’ time. First Phase-will come up
in this financial year itself. This facility of Phase-1 would cost Rs. 250 crores. And the first
Phase-1A of it would cost Rs. 120 crores, which would be mostly through internal funding.

We are also looking for a strategic partnership for the infrastructure development, which is
through a Company called AAIPL, Axis Aerospace Infrastructure Private Limited.

With this, I request our Chairman to say the concluding remarks on our speeches. Over to you,
sir.

Sampath Ravinarayanan: Thank you, Murali. My colleagues have covered all the aspects. I have set the goal for the
Company, brought in the team of capable leaderships, the leadership team who can deliver the
goal.

However, I have tasked myself with the following:

1. To create a robust silo or funnel that leads to a pipeline and wins to achieve the Power
930 . So, I have tasked myself with creating that silo, contacts, everything that leads

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to this goal, which has to be done in the next two years so that we can deliver on the
third, fourth, and fifth year the goals, while the AOP keeps going on.
2. As Murali mentioned, ensure our DAC and MAC projects are completed on time. For
that we need resources and funds. So, my job is to organize that without any dilution.
So, the land is owned by a Company, one of our group companies as you would have
known called AAIPL, Axis Aerospace Infrastructure Private Limited. We are trying
to leverage or bring some strategic partnership into that. And actually this is one of the
options. As Murali also mentioned that 1A, we are splitting the whole approach into
three phases. 1A we are pretty much covered. So, rest of the things we have to
organize. So, we have time to organize.
3. To Forge long-term partnerships and relationships to achieve this. Hope to get the
more for the work as well as for the completion of DAC and MAC projects. So, this
will also have sustainable growth and achieve the 930 in a sustainable way.

So, with this, we are ready to take the questions. So, I will hand it over to Sangeeta who can just
organize the questions. Thank you. Thank you all.

Sangeeta Tripathi: We can start with the Q&A.

Moderator: Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. The first question
is from the line of Koushik Mohan from Ashika Group. Please proceed.

Koushik Mohan: Hi, sir, thanks for the opportunity and great set of results. Can I just understand this onetime cost
on the P&L that we have it on more clarity basis?

Shashidhar S. K.: So, Koushik, thank you for the question. See, essentially as what I explained in my speech, we
went on a complete transformation initiative from Q3 onwards. And one of the major parts of
this is kind of complete overhaul of the leadership team. And essentially, the major cost with
respect to the Rs. 14 crores which I mentioned pertains to, you know, it not only was in India, it
was also across globally, where we had to do a kind of, I would say, do a voluntary separation
for our leadership including our previous CEO and various other leadership positions across the
globe.

So that and also we had to incur certain, I would say, onetime legal costs in the course of a few
exits so to say. And then we also took a specific consulting from Zinnov with respect to our
automotive business, which, I would say, especially for our Add Solutions in Germany. All of
this amounted to Rs. 14 crores, which, in a way, are non-recurring in nature, which will not
repeat next year.

Koushik Mohan: And sir, the second thing, currently in this quarter, we have achieved almost around 16.8%
EBITDA margin. And we are talking about a target of Power 930, where we are talking about a
24% EBITDA margin. So, what are the key levers which will play out in this specific margin

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increase? And how is that planned towards achieving that? And also, can you relate this with the
80-20 rule that we are talking about products as well as the solutions?

Shashidhar S. K.: Before I hand it over to Alfonso and Murali to kind of, I would say, detail on this, I would like
to say that while our kind of a blended EBITDA is at 13.8%, you would observe that the three
of my core businesses where the future growth is going to come are already at a 19% EBITDA.
If you look at aerospace, that's at 22%. And if you look at ESAI, that's also at about 23% plus.
And if you look at only the defense production, that's already at 22%.

So, the approach is to take it from here and drive it towards the product-led approach. And I will
ask Alfonso to kind of, I would say, and also to Murali, if they want to delineate on how these
entire drivers are going to work out.

Alfonso Martinez: Yes, exactly. As Shashi said, it is mainly driven by our focus. Our focus in aerospace, defense
and ESAI will bring this margin improvement. If you see, we are running there around 20% in
combination this year. But specifically also defense is only at 15% and we will expect for next
year, for Fiscal Year '26, an expansion of that EBITDA margin very clearly. So, it's a
combination of keeping improving the balance between core and non-core and of course also
increasing the quality of our revenues. And we are very, very much secure on that. I don't know
if you want to complement Murali or more or less this is?

D. Murali Krishnan: Thanks, Alfonso. So, I think you are right. So, once we focus on products and increase the share
of our products, the EBITDA margins are improving or going to improve. Also the uniqueness
of the product. So, if we are the only supplier and if our products are innovative and unique, the
margins are going to be higher. That is the way we want to go forward. 80-20 is the way where
we will increase our EBITDA. So, Chairman may please add if you want to have any comments
on this.

Sampath Ravinarayanan: No, I am fine. As we said that this is the goal we have set. As Shashi explained, we are already
at 19.2% in core verticals. And defense is also around it, if you take only the defense product
solutions without taking out the one-time development cost, it is at more than 20%. So, we
should be fine if we keep the focus. And that's what we are planning to do.

Koushik Mohan: Thanks for this, sir. I will come back in the queue.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Jatin Jadhav from Sahasrar Capital. Please proceed.

Jatin Jadhav: First of all, thank you so much for this opportunity and congratulations on a great set of numbers.
I have two questions. One is, sir, can you again briefly explain me the Phase-1, Phase-2, and
Phase-3 in brief? And sir, my second question was regarding Phase-2, if I heard it correctly, you
were trying to build a facility for missiles, MRO, and manufacturing. I wanted to understand
what kind of missiles are we targeting to manufacture for the defense clients and what kind of

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MRO facilities are we trying to build over here for existing missile systems or probably future
missile systems.

Sampat Ravinarayanan: I will take these questions. Basically, Phase-1 is meant for all the electronics, strategic
electronics that will cover normal electronics also. So, that also includes radar, electronics
warfare, strategic electronics and ESAI electronics. So, that should cover pretty much our
strategic electronic group and ESAI group. So, that will have manufacturing facility and high-
level test facility including anechoic chamber etc., which there are very rare availability in India.

And it will also have large hangers for radar maintenance, radar assembly, etc. So, that means
radars are widely used. For example, I am just giving an example. Some of the AWACS use
large radars that can come in and then test it. This will have wide hangers to test all these things.
This is Phase-1A. So, this will cover radar, electronic warfare, and all the other strategic
electronics and normal electronics, manufacturing, testing, assembly and so on.

And so the Phase-2 we talked about is missile. Missile has two parts. Missile, we maintain the
launches. When we say missile maintenance, there are two parts. Launches and missile
transportable test benches where the missile can be assembled, the four components of missile
can be assembled at the war zone or wherever it is. So, these are some of the ecosystems we are
building and also we are building the ground systems. That part may happen in Bangalore.

But the main missile part, when we say missile manufacture, this is more like an assembly. Some
parts we are planning to manufacture including airframe, including rocket motors, and even the
munitions for missile at some point of time, warheads. And then the nose cone, the front part.
And of course, missile electronics, the onboard computing, etc.

So, the whole integration will happen in Hyderabad. We are targeting to manufacture more, we
are focusing on smaller missiles, which is more into air to surface and so on. I don't want to
reveal too much, but this will be the focus on the missile side.

And third is, MRO, speed shop and manufacturing will be focused on dual use. That will be
mostly for both aerospace and defense. There are many aircraft. For example, Boeing Aircraft
are used for Boeing 737 is used in defense as well as air. Airbus is used both in that. So, there
are cases where there are a lot of dual use aircraft and helicopters. So, we will be doing
maintenance of the parts, both avionics and engine parts and some parts of airframe and
manufacturing and supply chain for this. This will be Phase-3.

So, except the missile-related activities, missile assembly, everything will be in Bangalore,
which will be Devanahalli Atmanirbhar Complex (DAC). Missile Atmanirbhar Complex, that
will be in Hyderabad. That will come up in a 6-acre facility which we are yet to buy. We are in
negotiation with the Telangana government or talking to the Telangana government. Here,
already we have acquired the land, and we are starting up the work. We are in the plan approval
stage at this stage.

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Jatin Jadhav: I will get back into the queue.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Karthi from Suyash Advisors. Please proceed.

Karthi: Good afternoon. Thanks for the opportunity. Sir, I just wanted to understand the visibility for
the revenue growth guidance that you have given 35% for aero, 60% for Defense and 75% for
ESAI. I hope I got those numbers correct. Just wanted to understand how much of this is
contingent upon maybe order wins or whatever or customer approvals to go ahead? And how
much of this is, shall we say, routine? Some clarity on that could help.

Shashidhar S. K.: So, Alfonso, would you want to talk about aerospace first followed by Sharadhi Babu on defense
and then, of course, Anurag, who will explain about ESAI.

Alfonso Martinez: On aerospace, we have a base of revenues that is secure with our current customers. Luckily,
both customers are in good shape and the revenues that we make this year is nearly secure for
next year, plus some expansions. So, that's securing a part of the growth in aerospace.

Also, the rest is coming from the pipeline of opportunities that we have now. It's a pipeline we
started to build basically when I joined, and then we are now waiting the pipeline. And with the
secure revenues plus the waited pipeline, we are nearly 90% secure of the revenue increase. We
are starting the year and there is always some deals to be won along the year. And I hope that
we are putting a lot of hope in the Paris Air Show in which we will participate. We may have an
announcement of some important deals that will come in the aerospace side.

So, basically, it is an estimation that we are pretty much secure and we are very confident on
getting this 35% growth of revenues in aerospace. So, maybe, Babu, you can complement on the
defense side.

Karthi: One quick question. How much would be the two customers’ contribution?

Alfonso Martinez: The two initial, the two current customers?

Karthi: Yes.

Alfonso Martinez: That's nearly a similar revenue to this figure. So, if it is a 35% increase, you can make the math
very easily. In the current customers, we are expanding about 10%, basically, that is coming
from the pipeline from the pipeline with new customers. When I say new customers in airbus,
that is very big. Airbus is a full ecosystem you know. We have one current customer in
aerospace. Airbus is a very big group and we are expanding into new areas as well.

Karthi: I heard you.

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Sharadhi Babu: Thanks, Alfonso. Covering the defense part, the defense growth is coming from much of our
defense production where, as you know, we are part of the LCA, Sukhoi, and also the AWACS
program. And also our both radar and DW are going on multiple platforms. So, production is
from all these programs. And also, we have MOD programs. We are implementing a large land
systems defense program in the coming year. And also, we are the OEMs. This thing has opened
up with various activities happening and the new procurement from Defense has triggered a lot
of OEM programs. So, the much of activity is also happening on the global OEM programs. So,
it is spread across all these three areas.

Sampath Ravinarayanan: Babu, I just want to clarify. The question was a little wrong, casted wrong, that defense is 75%
and ESAI is 60% growth. Just reiterate that. That’s all. Thank you.

Sharadhi Babu: And also the counter-drone systems where we are in the forefront and we have already supplied
100 systems to the defense. So, we are expecting repeat orders and also the new programs. The
counter-drone is the most wanted system across the defense now. And then we are leading this
entire program supply of these counter-drone systems to the Indian defense.

Karthi: So, if I may clarify, what would be production revenue in FY ‘26? We did 190 roughly in FY
‘25.

Sharadhi Babu: Production revenue is...

Shashidhar S. K.: This year FY ‘25 was around Rs. 196 crores. We are talking about probably doubling it in FY
‘26.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Nishid Shah from Ambika Fincap Consultants Private
Limited. Please proceed.

Dhruv: Hi, this is Dhruv. Congratulations on a good set of numbers. I have just one clarification on the
defense side. The deal we announced on the test bench, is there any revenues included in the
growth, which we are seeing, 75%?

Sampat Ravinarayanan: Which deal you are talking about?

Dhruv: The MBDA deal which we announced in January for the test bench, have we included any
revenues from that, sir?

Sampath Ravinarayanan: Babu, can you answer this?

Sharadhi Babu: Yes, we have revenues in that program in FY ‘26.

Dhruv: That's it.

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Moderator: The next question is from the line of Deepak Poddar from Sapphire Capital. Please proceed.

Deepak Poddar: Sir, just wanted to check, I mean, our Rs. 9,000 crores kind of a target in next 5 to 6 years
basically. So, that kind of equates to about 40%-45% kind of a CAGR over next 5-6 years. So,
just wanted to understand do you expect this growth to be evenly phased over the years or do
you expect it to be front ended, back ended? I mean, what sort of thought process you have on
that?

Sampat Ravinarayanan: I will take this question. This year one, let us call this one T0 beginning this right now. This will
be a normal year. The AOP will be met as the COO mentioned. We are looking at a 50%
EBITDA growth and proportional PAT growth this year and infrastructure at least 60% should
be ready.

So, there could be some traction other than the AOP figure something towards the Power 930
will come next year. But the 3rd, 4th and 5th year, I think we will ramp up faster because by that
time most of the DAC will be completed, MAC will be completed. All the 3rd Phase will be
almost on. So, all the lines of revenue streams will be ready. So, I think, see, it's still a vision.
But I would say that it's very much possible to achieve this.

Deepak Poddar: And this year we are targeting 35% growth at the Company level.

Sampat Ravinarayanan: This year, see, we are not looking at revenue per se. The revenue will be 35%, I guess. But I am
saying profit after adjusting to EBITDA because we have a huge cost on ESOPs, after adjusting
our EBITDA still can be around 50% growth from the current level, and PAT will be
proportional and EBITDA margin will be at least at 17% average. So, you can do the math what
should be the revenue and what should be the cost.

Deepak Poddar: And what is the FY '26 ESOP cost we are expecting?

Sampat Ravinarayanan: Around Rs. 50 crores to Rs. 60 crores.

Deepak Poddar: Around Rs. 50 crores to Rs. 60 crores.

Sampat Ravinarayanan: Yes.

Deepak Poddar: And what is the tax rate? I mean, this tax rate, we have seen some scalability.

Shashidhar S. K.: Yes, so we have now moved to the new tax regime. Of course, as you know, we have global
operations and each of the, I would say, our global operations have a different tax rate. But in
India, we have moved to the new tax regime at 25.82%.

Deepak Poddar: So, 26% is effective tax rate we can expect at the Company level.

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Shashidhar S. K.: Yes.

Deepak Poddar: And what was the one time provisioning cost in 4th Quarter?

Moderator: Sorry to interrupt, Mr. Deepak.

Deepak Poddar: It’s just the last question.

Moderator: I request you to join the queue.

Shashidhar S. K.: One time provisioning, I didn't get you.

Deepak Poddar: One time cost in 4th Quarter.

Shashidhar S. K.: Are you talking about non-recurring cost?

Deepak Poddar: Just one time cost in 4th Quarter. Out of this Rs. 14 crores, what was the cost in 4th Quarter?

Shashidhar S. K.: The 4th Quarter was around Rs. 9 crores.

Deepak Poddar: Rs. 9 crores.

Shashidhar S. K.: Rs. 7.5 crores. Let me correct myself.

Deepak Poddar: Rs. 7.5 crores.

Shashidhar S. K.: Yes.

Deepak Poddar: That’s it from me. All the very best.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Aastha from Pkeday Advisors. Please proceed.

Aastha: Thank you for giving me the opportunity to ask the question. Sir, first, I want to ask you, we saw
the slowest growth in this year in FY ‘25 compared to the last 3-4 years. What was the reason?
I mean, what happened? We saw 13% growth in aerospace, which was again slower than
compared to previous years. And sir, in the similar line, I want to ask you, what was the revenue
growth in automotive segment?

Shashidhar S. K.: No, the automotive segment, talking about the revenue growth as such, you are right, the core
businesses is where the actual growth happened. And most of the, I would say, management
bandwidth as well as, I would say, our efforts were getting into ensuring that we reset the non-
core verticals and we were exposed to the macro factors, especially in automotive.

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Just to give an example, the acquisition which we did of ADD Solutions in Germany, I would
say, Volkswagen was the main customer, which, you know, there was a huge de-growth there.
So, we did not achieve the objective. That was the issue there.

And also, with respect to the acquisition which we did in energy of Epcogen is yet to hit critical
mass. As a result of which, the non-core verticals kind of, I would say, impacted the overall
growth in terms of the business. And as to the automotive vertical, the total automotive revenue
was Rs. 90 crores as against Rs. 104 crores, which we recorded in FY '24.

Aastha: Sir, but even aerospace grew only by 13%, whereas if I see from FY '22 to '24, it has grown
pretty well.

Shashidhar S. K.: Yes, so because, I would say, we had some new programs which we started implementing.

Sampath Ravinarayanan: No, no, Shashi, that is post-COVID that is went up. Okay. That is clear because there is a
complete lot of orders were held back as a result of…

Shashidhar S. K.: Yes, so just to elaborate on what Dr. SRN just now stated, if you look at the period from FY ‘23,
if you look at FY ‘22, which was the period of COVID, the revenue dropped by 50%. So, when
the growth came back, it came back with a vengeance. So, that kind of stabilized in FY ‘24 and
onwards.

Aastha: So, sir, going forward, should I expect 13% to 15% growth as my aerospace growth?

Shashidhar S. K.: I think Alfonso has clarified that.

Sampath Ravinarayanan: Shashi, I will take the question. Madam, this year we are expecting as our CEO, on behalf of
Mohan said, 35%. If I can give the figures approximately, we did about 300, around $38 million
in aerospace. We are targeting about $51 million this year, approximately. Okay, so we can
expect and we are looking at a similar or better growth next year because we will be adding
products and solutions to this.

Aastha: Sir, my next question would be, is it possible to share…

Moderator: Sorry to interrupt, Ms. Aastha. Could I request you to return to the question queue as there are
several participants waiting for their turn

Aastha: Sure.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Nirvana Laha from Badrinath Holdings. Please proceed.

Nirvana Laha: My question is regarding the ESAI segment. So, if I look at the revenues this year, they were
flat. We are guiding for, I think, 60% growth in EBITDA next year. So, can you please elaborate

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on what programs or what clients will help us drive this? Some details on where we can
understand what tangible programs or clients will help move this will be very helpful.

Anurag Sharma: Yes, of course. This is Anurag Sharma here. So, you see that we are basically also doing a
revision in our strategy where we are moving towards product-driven growth. And in that
context, we have introduced some new products also in this year. And that is why we are very
much confident of this growth which I spoke about.

So, we already were doing a certain type of products for our OEM clients in the semiconductor
segment and we were doing high-end electronic design and the PCBAs. But now we are doing
our own system level product, which directly go into the market. So, this is something which is
a renewed strategy and very effective one and that gives us the confidence to move forward.

Nirvana Laha: Sir, just a follow-up on that. So, 60% EBITDA growth, do you already, and I think we reported
24% EBITDA margins this year. So, the EBITDA growth, how much of that will be driven by
top-line growth and how much will be driven by further EBITDA expansion, if you already have
some plans around that?

D. Murli Krishnan: So, you are talking about ESAI, or you are talking about the Company?

Nirvana Laha: No, ESAI. ESAI is Rs. 125 crore revenue, I believe, with Rs. 30 crore EBITDA. So, 60%
EBITDA growth that we are targeting. What will be the split between the revenue growth in
ESAI and further EBITDA margin expansion?

D. Murli Krishnan: This is mostly coming from the revenue growth. So, we are going to substantially increase the
revenue.

Shashidhar S. K.: See, we have added a lot of new logos. Earlier there used to be 2-3 logos which were kind of
focused with respect to the entire ESAI revenues. Now we are adding quite a lot of new logos,
especially in the U.S. region, which is going to kind of, I would say, take this forward.

Alfonso Martinez: Yes, if I may complement, the revenues flow in ESAI in the previous year has been delivery-
led. It's basically the sales done many years ago, and we have continued. And what we have
done now is really boosting the sales and the relationships with the clients, together with a new
product strategy. So, the continuity of the current revenue streams is there, but on top of that we
are adding new OEMs, new clients, etc., a new product range that has not been done in the
Company for the last years. This is a new era now.

Sampat Ravinarayanan: We have traditionally had only two silicon manufacturers with us, which have brought in 90%
of the revenues. Now we are looking about three or four more silicon manufacturers to work
with. Number two, we have taken a strong China plus One strategy and a Tariff plus One
strategy. So, that means that we are going wherever there was a replacement activities are
required. That has boosted our order book. The entire 60% we can say is almost 90% of this

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covered with already an order book right now. It's a good question of execution. There is a robust
pipeline. And customer base, we have some marquee customers. So, basically these three things
give us confidence. And EBITDA growth is proportional. There won't be bps growth. There is
no basic point growth. The EBITDA will remain almost the same percentage. But it will be a
result of revenue growth. Revenue growth will be there. Also there is a small element of ESAI
everything is being still under--.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Dhaval Jain from Sequent Investments. Please proceed.

Dhaval Jain: Sir, I just want you to understand the contribution from our core business going forward because
right now what I see is out of the total contribution that we have in aerospace is 31%. Defense
is around 29% and ESAI is around 12%. So, moving forward, how is this mix going to change?
Is it going to be evenly split or is defense going to be more contributing to the core domain?

Sampath Ravinarayanan: Let me answer this question. Ravinarayanan here. So, this is around, we are expecting at 2028,
see, leave the non-core aside, we are looking at 40% in defense, some about 30% in ESAI and
30% in aerospace. That's the mix we are expecting at this point of time with the visibility among
the core activities.

Dhaval Jain: Also one more aspect of it I might have missed out on. So, I just wanted to know about the
CAPEX that we are doing for the three phases that we are going to put in. So, I see that we are
going to put around Rs. 250 crores in Phase-1, the Phase-1A contributing Rs. 120 crores. So,
can I have the understanding of how you are going to fund the Phase-2 and Phase-3? And what
will be the total CAPEX overall?

Sampath Ravinarayanan: I am giving my brief this thing. Phase-1A, in Phase-1, we have divided it as Phase-1A and Phase-
1B. Phase-1A pretty much is That is Rs. 120 crores. That we are already allocated Rs. 45 crores
from our internal accruals, and we would be allocating more money to this internally. This won't
be almost requiring external funding, which our main focus is going to be on strategic
partnerships for the development of the whole thing. That's what it is.

Dhaval Jain: We don't currently have the entire CAPEX that, I mean, the entire amount of what we are
planning or is it going to come later stage?

Shashidhar S. K.: See, as Dr. SRN explained, what we have on the radar, and which is under development where
the plan is at an approval stage is Phase-1A where the CAPEX including the building as well as
the equipment is going to be anywhere between Rs. 100 crores to Rs. 120 crores. Of which most
of it, our objective is that most of it should be through internal accruals.

As I have already mentioned, the Company is sitting on cash reserves. At the same time, the
generation of EBITDA in FY ‘26 is also going to support that. So, that is how Phase-1A is going
to be funded. And onwards, basically as what Dr. SRN was explaining, we are working on

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partnerships where there can be a contribution from the partner who we negotiate with, the OEM,
which will take this entire CAPEX forward.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Rucheeta Kadge from I-Wealth Management. Please
proceed.

Rucheeta Kadge: Very good evening. So, sir, my question was essentially on the CAPEX part only. So, on Phase-
1 that we are talking about, so Phase-A, I understood. Could you please reiterate like on Phase-
B, what would that be? And by when do you expect the A and the B to come? And how much
revenue can each at the peak capacity contribute?

Sampath Ravinarayanan: It's already work started, somewhat the planning approval etc. We hope to complete the Phase-
1A by December this year and move in by January 15th at the latest. So, Phase-1A is on track.
Phase-1B as we conclude will have a certain level of tool room machine shops. We call it as
speed manufacturing shop, and some kind of activities for supply chain and inspection
equipments. And so this will come in that more towards aerospace to take care of some of the
aerospace activities, more on to the one-time development, one-time manufacturing of aerospace
parts. Just to explain to you, around 90% of the OEM spent, that is, you know, Airbus Boeing
and their ecosystem, spent their whole entire money with the book…

Shashidhar S. K.: Yes, I think you can take the question.

D. Murali Krishnan: Yes. So, as SRN sir explained, so there is Phase-1, which is about one year away. So, we are
able to complete that and then we will move and start the operations next year. And Phase-2 and
3, which are for missiles as well as for the MRO and speed shop, that will come in the subsequent
year.

Rucheeta Kadge: And about the Phase-1, if you could tell that what is the kind of peak revenue that we can expect
in the Phase-1?

D. Murali Krishnan: So, this will be a part of our upcoming AOP and Phase-1A is more related to radar.

Shashidhar S. K.: Just to add to what Murali said, we are expecting a healthy kind of an asset turnover here. At
least by 2x to 2.5x is what we can expect.

Rucheeta Kadge: And how fast can we ramp this up?

Alfonso Martinez: Revenues will start as soon as the facilities are ready. And our plan is beginning of next year,
that will be ready. You know, sometimes today supply chain of equipment and so on is difficult
to predict. But we are very confident that beginning of next year, and we have some client
discussions also. So, revenues will start flowing early as soon as the facilities are ready.

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The pipeline is very big. And we are more or less securing the contracts in parallel to the
investment in Phase-1A. So, that will boost specifically Fiscal Year '27. It's very difficult. These
facilities are going to be ready at the end of this year, so the impact will be in the subsequent
years. The return on capital expenses is very high in everything we are planning. This is for
Phase-1, basically.

Next phases are depending on the customer negotiations and the client partnerships that we are
closing in this year. As long as we will be announcing the partnerships, the investments will be
also putting into note of the community.

Rucheeta Kadge: And this ESOP cost, what was that for FY '25?

Shashidhar S. K.: The ESOP cost for FY ‘25 was kind of marginal. It was less than Rs. 5 crores, let me say.

Rucheeta Kadge: And then, just to follow up on this.

Moderator: We are sorry to interrupt, Ms. Rucheeta. We are so sorry, but there are a lot of participants
waiting for their turn. Could you please return to the question queue?

Rucheeta Kadge: Not an issue. Yes.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Aman Vij from Astute Investment Management. Please
proceed.

Aman Vij: Good afternoon, sir. My question is on the defense side. So, could you give some more clarity
that till last quarter or maybe one, two quarters back, we were talking about 30% kind of
production growth, but what has changed in last one, two quarters that we are not talking about
100% growth in our production revenue? And then if you can talk about some of the interesting
programs which is coming up, which is helping in this. Is this the NETRA program? And if you
can give any update and also on Counter-Drone and CG Drone POD update, if you can give on
these three programs. These are the questions I have.

Sharadhi Babu: Mainly the defense program, the production is coming from, as I mentioned in one of the
previous answers, there is a ramp up in production. We are actually significantly contributing
towards the production of the LCA, the Su-30 upgrades and also in the AWACS, and also we
are having the direction finding system is going on multiple platforms. So, much of the
production is happening in this direction. And also, there is an expedited delivery.

In fact, we have the orders. It is the execution which is actually more where we are focusing and
enhancing it. And also, with the culmination of the new orders from the OEMs like the Marine
Rafale and others are also expediting our OEM footprint.

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So, as you know, we are already working with many global OEMs, and there the expansion is
happening on an accelerated mode. And in the MOD, number one, we are implementing a land
system project and also we are expecting this emergency procurement to lead to certain quick
supply of systems where we are expecting this emergency procurement and also maybe there
will be one more iteration also will actually contribute to our enhanced revenues.

Aman Vij: Clarification on the emergency procurement part. What kind of contribution do you think can
come from that? Sorry, this is Su 30 and AWACS. So, these programs were supposed to come
in FY '27. So, is it getting preponed or when you are talking about so many programs, all of
them are coming in FY '26 itself?

Sharadhi Babu: There are some systems already the production is going on and then deliveries are going on.
Some of them are actually coming up in this year and some quantities are next year. And also
the emergency procurement, there are ten lines of items the Indian MOD has embarked upon
acquiring in a quick succession, and we have already fielded our equipment in four categories,
and then at least we have very, very high confidence that we should be able to win one of them,
and also the same will also repeat in a very quick succession down the line.

Aman Vij: Sorry, again. What is the order we are expecting from EP, emergency procurement, in the next
1-2 years?

Sharadhi Babu: No, we will not be able to disclose the values, but we are hoping for a sure win.

Moderator: The next question is from the line of Pankaj Parab from Molecule Ventures. Please proceed.

Pankaj Parab: So, my first question would be on the recent traction in the Anti-drone system. So, what kind of
new opportunities that we are seeing and are we developing any new system except for the
existing system in anti-drone?

Sharadhi Babu: Yes, we are actually expanding our anti-drone systems offerings. We are in the counter-drone
systems. We are already in the man-portable counter-drone systems. And now we are offering
the hand-held systems also. And also we have worked on the vehicle mounted and we have
offered the vehicle mounted systems also. And going forward, we are actually creating our own
internal portfolio of long-range and programmable jammers and future add-ons to integrate our
own radars.

And so we will be offering a full suite of counter-drone systems including all the sensors and
the kill options, both the soft sensors and soft kill, hard sensors and hard kill options. All of them
will be part of our offerings. So, it's a pretty interesting portfolio of products and also very good
pipeline coming up. And already we are in the forefront of counter-drone systems in the Indian
context and also we are expanding globally also.

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Pankaj Parab: And sir, can you please elaborate some of the order in the counter-drone system in FY ‘26 that
may be converted into revenue?

Sharadhi Babu: The values I will not be able to disclose. But I am sure counter-drone systems will be part of our
revenues.

Pankaj Parab: So, we can safely assume that the amount of the revenue will be substantially higher than FY
‘25. I guess so.

Sharadhi Babu: Yes.

Pankaj Parab: Yes. Please continue.

Alfonso Martinez: Yes, to complement what Mr. Babu said, it is not only the products that we are developing, it's
also the recent success that we have last year in counter-drone systems here in India, has drive
the attention of some international companies that are looking us as our main partner to develop.
So, this will accelerate because as you can imagine developing our own products takes some
time. But what is going on is that now we are about to announce very soon a very good
partnership on these systems with the leaders companies.

As you know I come from Europe and there we are experiencing a lot on drones and what we
are doing is partnerships with companies that are combat proven systems. And that's why we are
putting a lot of bets on this counter-drone and even drone system. So, this is where we are super
confident.

I am sorry, this is defense. We cannot disclose the opportunities we are dealing with and the
conversations we are having with the international OEMs and also the Ministry of Defense here
in India. But we are super confident on a big boost on these revenues.

Pankaj Parab: And sir, my next question is on ESAI segment. So, we have a good jump in the quarterly revenue
for this quarter in the ESAI segment. And sir, you also mentioned Rs. 600 crore order book. And
so can you just elaborate what is a portion of the chip to product division that we are trying to
develop? And how we are progressing there? Any new product addition in the pipeline or
anything on that, sir?

D. Murali Krishnan: So, for ESA, there are multiple products in pipeline starting from millimeter wave radar, drone
controller, as well as other radar systems such as through wall radar and ground penetration
radar.

Pankaj Parab: And sir, does this contain in our order book of Rs. 600 crore?

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Moderator: Hello, sorry to interrupt, Mr. Pankaj. Due to call time constraints, we will have to take this as
the last question. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of time, this will be the last
question. And we will now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

Sangeeta Tripathi: Thank you, everyone. Thanks to all our esteemed leaders and participants for your time and
interest in our Company. We appreciate this engaging session and the insightful questions.
Should you have any further questions or need any additional clarification, please feel free to
connect with us. Thank you.

Shashidhar S. K.: Thank you, everyone.

D. Murali Krishnan: Thank you.

Moderator: On behalf of AXISCADES Technologies Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you
for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines.

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The company achieved a significant milestone of crossing Rs. 1,000 crores in consolidated revenue for FY 2025, specifically reaching Rs. 1,031 crores. The key growth drivers were the focus verticals of Aerospace, Defense, and ESAI, which grew by 12% from Rs. 671 crores to Rs. 749 crores. Meanwhile, aerospace alone grew by 13% to Rs. 322 crores, and defense grew by 16% to Rs. 303 crores .

To reach the $1 billion revenue target by 2030, the company is focusing on strategic investments in infrastructure and leadership, aiming for scalable product-led growth. Investments in key assets and transformation projects are critical to this strategy. However, the main risks involve potential macroeconomic challenges and the inherent uncertainties of such transformation initiatives possibly impacting the timelines and the effectiveness of achieving targets .

The reduction in financial costs from Rs. 56 crores to Rs. 32 crores was due to the repayment of borrowings using QIP proceeds. This significant decrease in finance costs indicates improved fiscal management and strengthens the company's balance sheet, potentially enhancing future financial performance by lowering interest expenses and improving profitability .

The new management structure includes experienced industry veterans in leadership positions who are expected to strengthen client relationships and drive growth. This aligns with the transformation strategy that focuses on people, transitioning from services to products, and investing in high-return assets. The expected benefits include improved client engagement and a boost in company growth through enhanced sales techniques and strategic partnerships .

The non-core businesses of heavy engineering, automotive, and energy diluted the overall EBITDA margin to 13.8%, despite the core verticals recording healthy margins of 19.1%. This was because the non-core businesses reported negative margins, affecting the company's overall financial performance. Consequently, adjusting for non-recurring costs, the adjusted EBITDA margin was 15% .

The company plans to pursue a product-led growth strategy by shifting the current revenue mix from 80% service revenue and 20% product revenue to a larger share from products. The aim is to achieve non-linear margin-led growth and reach an average of 24% EBITDA in the next 2 to 3 years. By FY 2028, they intend a significant change in revenue composition that emphasizes products over services, thereby enhancing their market competitiveness .

The anticipated challenges include ensuring the execution timelines of defense programs and managing dependencies on procurement processes. To mitigate these challenges, the company can focus on strengthening partnerships with OEMs, ensuring robust project management practices, and maintaining flexibility to adapt quickly to procurement and execution changes .

A 50% minimum growth in EBITDA, excluding ESOP costs, indicates the company's ambitious drive toward profitability improvement. This goal, if achieved, can significantly enhance shareholder value and company sustainability. However, the realism of this goal hinges on the successful execution of identified transformation initiatives, including product-led growth and cost optimizations, as well as favorable macroeconomic conditions .

The company intends to use its cash reserves and internal accruals to fund future CAPEX, particularly for Phase-1A projects involving radar. This self-reliant funding strategy reduces dependence on external financing, minimizing financial risk. Strategically, it allows the company to maintain control over investments, potentially leading to better execution of projects with a focus on high-return asset investments .

The optimism for a 35% increase in aerospace revenues is attributed to strategic participation in events like the Paris Air Show, expansion into the Airbus ecosystem, and new customer pipeline development. However, risks include potential project execution delays, market volatility, and competition that may impede realizing projected revenue increases .

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