Damping Calculations
The Proper Damping for my Vehicle
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By Jim Kasprzak
May 13, 2011
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Vehicle Data
Data
Calculation Roadmap
Calculations
Motion Ratio
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Decisions
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
Results
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Vehicle Data
Data
Calculation Roadmap
Motion Ratio
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Calculations
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Decisions
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
Results
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Vehicle Data
Data
Calculation Roadmap
Calculations
Motion Ratio
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Decisions
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
Results
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Over 85 years of combined racing & automotive engineering experience
Extensive vehicle suspension, ride and handling experience
Damper design, development, testing and manufacturing All types of springs, stabilizer bars, oil seals, shock absorbers and struts Ride & handling on standard suspension and advanced technologies NVH, tire testing, vehicle stability systems, race chassis development 7-Post and 4-Post test development and testing
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Race Engineering 7-Post testing Suspension engineering Shock design, development & tuning Vehicle tuning
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Jim Kasprzak-Automotive
31 years automotive experience Arvin Ride Control
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Monroe Auto Equipment
Chief Engineer, Electronic Suspensions Manager, Suspension System Programs
Two shock design patents
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Sometimes I think that I would have enjoyed racing more in the days of the friction shock. Since you couldnt do anything much to them or with them, I would have spent a lot less time being confused. Carroll Smith Tune to Win, 1978
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Vehicle Data
Data
Calculation Roadmap
Calculations
Motion Ratio
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Decisions
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
Results
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Vehicle Data
Data
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Calculation Roadmap
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Vehicle Data
Total Vehicle weight % Front vehicle weight Front & rear unsprung weight Front & rear shock/wheel motion ratios Tire radial stiffness Front & rear spring rates
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Vehicle Data Definitions
Total Vehicle Weight Total vehicle weight ready to race with driver, fluids and tank of fuel % Front Vehicle Weight Percentage of vehicles weight measured at the front wheels
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Vehicle Data Definitions
Unsprung Weight The weight of those parts of the car which are not carried by the suspension system, but are supported directly by the tire and wheel assembly and considered to move with it. CarDictionary.com
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Vehicle Data Definitions
Motion Ratio The ratio of shock/spring travel to wheel travel
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Vehicle Data Definitions
Tire Radial Stiffness Vertical spring rate of the tire Obtained from tire test data Tire pressure dependant Data available as member of the FSAE Tire Test Consortium
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Vehicle Data Definitions
Spring Rate The ratio of spring load to deflection
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Vehicle Data
Total Vehicle weight % Front vehicle weight Front & rear unsprung weight Front & rear shock/wheel motion ratios Tire radial stiffness Front & rear spring rates
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Spring Rates
Suspension Travel
Ride Frequency
Roll Rate (Handling)
Spring Rate ?
Aero Load Pitch (Braking)
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Vehicle Data Units
Total Vehicle weight (kilograms) % Front vehicle weight (percentage - %) Front & rear unsprung weight (kilograms) Front & rear shock/wheel motion ratios (unitless) Tire radial stiffness (Newton/millimeter) Front & rear spring rates (Newton/millimeter)
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Calculations
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung Damping Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Motion Ratio
The ratio of spring travel to wheel travel
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Wheel Rate
The spring rate at the wheel
Wheel Rate = KW = KS * MR^2 KW = Wheel Rate (N/m) KS = Spring Rate (N/m) MR = Motion Ratio (unitless)
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Ride Rate
The effective stiffness of the suspension and tire springs in series
KR = Ride Rate (N/m) KW = Wheel Rate (N/m) KT = Tire Spring Rate (N/m)
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Natural Frequency
The undamped resonant frequency of the system
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Natural Frequency
The undamped resonant frequency of the system
KS = Spring Rate (N/m) M = Mass (kg)
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Sprung Mass Natural Frequency
The undamped resonant frequency of the sprung mass
KR = Ride Rate (N/m) WS = Sprung Weight (kg) g= Acceleration due to Gravity (m/sec2)
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Unsprung Mass Natural Frequency
The undamped resonant frequency of the unsprung mass
KS = Spring Rate (N/m) KT =Tire Rate (N/m) WUS = Unsprung Weight (kg) g= Acceleration due to Gravity (m/sec2)
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Critical Damping
The level of damping that allows the mass to return to steady state most quickly with no overshoot is critical damping.
Ccr = Critical Damping Coefficient (N-s/m) KS = System Spring Rate (N/m) M = System Mass (kg)
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Critical Damping
Resonance
Critically Damped
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Sprung Mass Critical Damping
The critical damping coefficient for the sprung mass
Ccr(s) = Sprung mass critical damping coefficient (N-s/m) KR = Ride Rate (N/m) WS = Sprung Weight (kg) g= Acceleration due to Gravity (m/sec2)
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Unsprung Mass Critical Damping
The critical damping coefficient for the unsprung mass
Ccr(us) = Unsprung mass critical damping coefficient (N-s/m) KS = Spring Rate (N/m) KT =Tire Rate (N/m) WUS = Unsprung Weight (kg) g= Acceleration due to Gravity (m/sec2)
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Damping Ratio
The relationship of the damping coefficient to the coefficient at critical damping. Think of it as a damping rate.
= Damping Ratio (N-s/m) C = Damping coefficient (N-s/m) Ccr = Critical damping coefficient (N-s/m)
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Damping Ratio
Non-Aero Racecars
Passenger Car
Critical Damping Aero Racecars Ride: 0.7-1.1 Roll: 6.0-9.0 Milliken
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Decisions!!
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Desired Damping Ratio
Damping Ratio is based on YOUR decisions:
Dynamic ride frequency Dynamic pitch frequency Dynamic roll rate Spring rates Sway bar rates Driver preferences
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Desired Damping Ratios
Choose Damping Ratios for:
Low speed compression Low speed rebound High speed compression High speed rebound
Low speed is body control and transitions, high speed is control over bumps.
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Desired Damping Ratios
High Speed Compression Low Speed Compression
Damping Rates N-s/mm
Low Speed Rebound
High Speed Rebound
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Desired Damping Ratios
Why four different damping ratios? Control two different masses with one damper
Sprung mass Unsprung mass
Damper has many functions
Control resonant frequencies Control transient weight transfer rate
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Knee Speed
Knee speed is the velocity where the damping transitions from low speed to high speed, or from the low speed Damping Ratio to the high speed Damping Ratio. Knee speed is the transition from body control to control over bumps. Usually chosen above velocity of sprung mass resonance. May not be able to change due to valve design
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Knee Speed
Compression Knee
Knee Speed 25 mm/sec
Rebound Knee
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Compression to Rebound Ratio
Compression to rebound ratio is the ratio of damping force at a specified velocity. Typically specified at the Knee Speed and velocity of unspsrung mass resonance.
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Compression to Rebound Ratio
Compression
Knee Comp/Reb Ratio
Unsprung Mass Comp/Reb Ratio
Rebound
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Vehicle Data
Data
Calculation Roadmap
Calculations
Motion Ratio
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Decisions
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
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Vehicle Data
Calculation Roadmap
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Motion Ratio
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
Results
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Calculations, Decisions, Results
Calculations
Decisions
Results
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Damping Rate
The damping rate for a specific portion of the damping curve
DR = Damping Rate (N-s/m) Ccr = Critical damping coefficient (N-s/m) = Damping Ratio (N-s/m)
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Low Speed Comp Damping Rate
Calculate low speed compression damping rate using Sprung Mass Critical Damping and low speed Damping Ratio
DR(lsc) = Low speed comp Damping Rate (N-s/m) Ccr(s) = Sprung mass critical damping coefficient (N-s/m) (ls) = Low speed Damping Ratio (N-s/m)
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Low Speed Comp Damping Force
Calculate compression damping force at Knee Speed using low speed compression Damping Ratio and Knee Speed
CF(ls) = Low speed comp damping force (N) KS = Knee Speed (mm/sec)
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Calculation, Decision, Results
Calculations
Decisions
Results
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High Speed Comp Damping Rate
Calculate high speed compression damping rate using Unsprung Mass Critical Damping and high speed Damping Ratio
DR(hsc) = High speed comp Damping Rate (N-s/m) Ccr(us) = Unsprung mass critical damping coefficient (N-s/m) (hs) = Low speed Damping Ratio (N-s/m)
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High Speed Comp Damping Force
Calculate high speed compression damping force using high speed compression Damping Ratio and high velocity speed
CF(hs) = High speed comp damping force (N) V(hs) = High speed velocity(mm/sec)
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Calculation, Decision, Results
Calculations
Decisions
Results
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Low Speed Rebound Damping Rate
Calculate low speed rebound damping rate using low speed compression damping rate and low speed compression/rebound ratio
DR(lsr) = Low speed reb Damping Rate (N-s/m) DR(lsc) = Low speed comp Damping Rate (N-s/m)
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Low Speed Rebound Damping Force
Calculate low speed rebound damping force using low speed rebound Damping Ratio and low velocity speed
RF(ls) = Low speed rebound damping force (N) V(hs) = High speed velocity(mm/sec)
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Calculation, Decision, Results
Decisions
Results
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High Speed Rebound Damping Rate
Calculate high speed rebound damping rate using high speed compression damping rate and high speed compression/rebound ratio
RF(hs) = High speed rebound damping force (N) CF(hs) = High speed comp damping force (N)
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High Speed Reb Damping Force
Calculate high speed rebound damping force using high speed rebound Damping Ratio and high velocity speed
RF(hs) = High speed rebound damping force (N) V(hs) = High speed velocity(mm/sec)
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Calculation, Decision, Results
Decisions
Results
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Decisions
Decisions
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Decision Example - Passenger Car
Compression
Rebound
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Decision Example
Non-Aero Car Indy Car - Aero
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Decision Example
Non-Aero Car Indy Car - Aero
Compression
Compression
Rebound Rebound
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Decision Example DP Cars
DP Car #1 DP Car #2
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Decision Example DP Cars
DP Car #1 DP Car #2
Compression
Compression
Rebound
Rebound
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Decision Example FSAE Cars
Typical FSAE Kaz Tech Approach
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Decision Example
Typical FSAE
Compression
Kaz Tech Approach
Compression
Rebound
Rebound
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Vehicle Data
Data
Calculation Roadmap
Calculations
Motion Ratio
Wheel Rate Ride Rate
Natural Frequencies Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping Sprung & Unsprung
Damping Ratio
Compression/Rebound Ratio
Knee Speed
Desired Damping Ratio
Decisions
Compression Damping Low & High speed
Rebound Damping Low & High speed
Results
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Decisions
Decisions
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Decisions
Spring Rates
Ride Frequency Roll Rate
Damping Ratios Knee Speed Comp/Reb Ratios
Aero Load Transient Response
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Low & High Freq Damping Ratios
Why two Damping Ratios?
Low Frequency
Ride motions Turn-in Brake dive Acceleration rise/squat
High Frequency
Control over bumps Wheel hop
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Low Frequency Damping Ratio
Why high Low Frequency Damping Ratios?
Compression
Load outside tire on turn-in (reduce turn-in understeer) Reduce rate of brake dive (even load distribution) Reduce squat on acceleration (reduce understeer)
Rebound
Reduce roll Reduce rear lift in braking (even load distribution) Reduce front lift on acceleration (reduce understeer)
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High Frequency Damping Ratio
Why less High Frequency than Low Frequency Damping Ratio?
High frequency primarily damping wheel Less weight to control, thus less damping required
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General Setup Examples
Soft spring Stiff sway bar High compression, low rebound damping ratios OR Stiff springs Soft sway bar Low compression, high rebound damping ratios
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Decision Numbers
Decision Numbers are JUST numbers!!
Body Control
2008 DR 2010 DR
2009 DR
Tire Force Variation
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Summary
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Summary
Many factors effect your damping decision
Suspension design (Roll Center, Motion Ratio, etc.) Suspension variables (spring rates, bar rates,etc.) Tires Downforce Driver preference On and on
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Summary
Damping is just one part of the SYSTEM
Damping has to work in concert with the other components They all have to work together You can achieve the objective in multiple ways
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The Last Word
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The Last Word
Damping calculations are a way to quantify normalized results They are NOT the conclusion They are the MEANS to the END!
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The Last Word
Like any other variable on the car, your damping decisions are JUST numbers!
Choose these based on all the other factors in the car
There are MULTIPLE right solutions!
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Questions?
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References
Books by Carroll Smith
Tune to Win Drive to Win Prepare to Win Engineer to Win Nuts, Bolts, Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook Engineer In Your Pocket
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References
Books
Race Car Vehicle Dynamics
William F. Milliken and Douglas L. Milliken
Fundamentals of Vehicle Dynamics
Thomas D. Gillespie
Shock Absorber Handbook
John C. Dixon
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