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rofessor Philip Callahan, PhD, the author of 17 books and over 150 published
papers, is widely regarded as a leading light in sustainable agriculture. His
breakthrough work with insects and infrared radiation is a milestone in the
understanding of the link between nutrition and pest pressure.
Dr Callahan's more recent research and discoveries in relation to paramagnetism are
only just beginning to achieve widespread acceptance. Paramagnetism in agriculture is
a powerful growth force which enhances root development and stimulates the multipli-
cation of micro-organisms. Graeme Sait spent an illuminating afternoon with Dr
Callahan during the December 2000 Acres USA conference in Minneapolis.
Dr Phil Callahan's
research into PLANTS EMIT INFRARED RADIATION
Graeme Sait: In the foreword to your book on paramagnetism, your editor, Fred
paramagnetic soil Walters, stated that you consider your work in this field to be the most important of
your life. Four years have passed since the publication of your book. Are you happy
fertility, plant with the impact of your findings in regard to agriculture?
Phil Callahan: Yes, I'm very happy. There are numerous farmers who attend these
growth, infrared Acres USA conferences who have tried the concept successfully. Also, in your coun-
try, some of the big corporations are now working with paramagnetism and plant
radiation and insect growth. The book really got things started, because competent people can sit down
and read the book and then go out and find out for themselves.
biology has Graeme: The reason I asked if you were happy with the progress relates to what I
enormous consider to be snail's pace progress with your other major discovery. For the sake of
readers not familiar with your work, I'm referring to your discovery that plants emit
implications for infrared radiation, which magnifies scent molecules. Insects use their antennae to
detect the source of these molecules. Healthy plants emit a different signal than
agricultural unhealthy plants, and insects are more attracted to the nutritionally deficient plants.
This incredibly important finding has largely been ignored by entomologists, but the
sustainability. military was quick to see its significance. In fact, the heat-seeking missile was devel-
oped as a result of your work. How do you feel about this?
Phil: I'm satisfied with my paramagnetics work, but you have to differentiate
between this and my infrared insect work. We are still working on projects, which
means that eventually we will be able to generate frequencies that will attract insects.
My interest in paramagnetism began with a study of sacred places. I visited these
sites all over the world—Catholic, Buddhist, Moslem, even Australian Aboriginal
sites. I noticed that the plant growth was always better at these places, which always
seemed to involve rocks. Further investigation revealed that these rocks were highly
paramagnetic.
The point is that this force was already there. I didn't discover it. It is there to be
An interview with harvested. The archaeologists would call this "gathering". Good farming is not
Dr Phil Callahan synthetic; it must involve working with nature rather than with synthetic poisons.
Paramagnetic materials are there to be harvested. Good farming is "gathering".
by Graeme Sait © 2001 In terms of the electromagnetic work, what I did there was to look at the insects'
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simple US$2 experiment put me on the right track. I took a you can develop a film that will show lights with every colour
corn plant and used a box to diffuse the scent from the plant. in the rainbow. There are so few photons coming off, you have
Beside the box I placed a piece of hairy cloth (which was hairy to leave it there for three weeks to get it, but the film is sensi-
like corn silk) and shone a blue light on it. Out of 2,000 eggs tive to light, and if you leave it there long enough you'll get a
laid by the corn worm moth, 1,990 were laid on the piece of picture. This is irrefutable proof that paramagnetic rock gener-
hairy cloth instead of the corn plant. ates light. Remember that plant roots are there for three
From this simple experiment, I realised that the energy from months' minimum, so they get plenty of light.
the light was combining with the energy from the scent and Graeme: That's fascinating stuff, but it's only a recent find-
raising the power of the scent far higher than what it was at the ing. Was this how you always theorised it was working?
plant or point of origin. I realised that scent was involved and Phil: Well, in this case I knew it worked, but I had to find
that scent was really acting as an oscillator. It's all common the mechanism of how it worked. Some of my experimental
sense. If scent is an oscillator, then you start looking for the work suggests huge increases in plant performance. For exam-
frequency. The infrared part of the spectrum was the obvious ple, I took rye grown in sandy soils with a paramagnetic level
choice. of 60 cgs [centimetres-grams-seconds] and fed those soils with
The problem with gaining acceptance of these new concepts paramagnetic rock. The rye, before treatment, had 10 to 15
relates to the fact that entomologists are tied to 100 years of nitrogen nodules on the roots, but after treatment the number
olfaction theory, which does not cover the concepts of scent and increased to 200 nodules. It suggests that the bacteria in the
frequency. With paramagnetism, you sim- soil can't convert minerals into a plant-
ply need to apply a highly paramagnetic available form without this paramagnetic
crusher dust to see the results. Farmers are force. They will never utilise all that fer-
practical scientists: if it works, they do it. tiliser they're dumping on them without the
With the infrared work it involved disturb- paramagnetic force. This force is to roots
ing the status quo, and that's a lot harder …plants emit what light is to chlorophyll. If you don't
task. infrared radiation, have light, then chlorophyll can't work. If
Graeme: It's also easier with paramag- you don't have paramagnetic force, then
netism, because you have developed your which magnifies the roots can't work.
PCSM [Paramagnetic Count Soil Meter]. scent molecules… G r a e m e : Well, we've had a recent
When growers see the direct relationship experience which confirms exactly what
between productive capacity and the read- you are saying. I'm not sure if you are
ing on the meter, then the whole concept is
lifted out of the realms of abstract theory.
Healthy plants emit aware of our company, Nutri-Tech
Solutions. We specialise in fertility analy-
It virtually can't be denied. a different signal than sis and personal prescription blends,
Phil: Actually, the entomologists
could repeat some of my simple
unhealthy plants, utilising a combination of Albrecht
soil balancing principles and biologi-
experiments and they would see what and insects are more cal activation techniques. We have
is undeniable, but they don't want to recently begun importing your para-
because they have a mindset against
attracted to the magnetism meters to expand our cov-
it—a paradigm, it's called. There is nutritionally erage further. Our approach has been
no paradigm against paramagnetism remarkably successful, to the point
because no one has ever heard of it
deficient plants. that we are now the fastest growing
before. agricultural company in our country.
Recently we had a rare failure. A
PARAMAGNETIC ROCK EMITS couple growing lychees in north
PHOTONS Queensland had experienced three
G r a e m e : I understand that your years without fruit and they turned to
latest research suggests that paramag- us for help. A soil analysis revealed
netic materials are a source of subterranean light to increase deficiencies in almost everything. We produced a prescription
root growth. Can you explain this phenomenon? blend covering all deficits at quite a cost to people in their posi-
Phil: Yes. Paramagnetic force is light from rocks for the tion. Unfortunately, we still didn't get a crop that season. We
roots. The rock is actually a transceiver, collecting magnetism were really scratching our heads at this stage, so we shouted
from the cosmos and throwing it back out to the roots. If you them another soil test to see if we could diagnose anything.
take a paramagnetic rock and put it into Dr [Fritz-Albert] Their soil sample arrived at the office the same day as the first
Popp's lab in Germany and measure it with his instruments shipment of your meters. We decided to test the soil for para-
which count photons one at a time, you'll find that a highly magnetism. That soil measured minus 20 cgs on the meter!
paramagnetic rock puts out 2,000 to 4,000 photons. If you put Paramagnetic energy was the limiting factor here, and, as you
that rock with some compost, if you treat it organically, it goes said, all the fertiliser in the world couldn't correct the problem.
from 2,000 to 4,000 photons to 400,000 photons. Now you are Phil: Well, none of this stuff is going to work without some
generating a light for roots. Roots are wave-guides, just like the of this paramagnetic energy. It can't work without light.
antennae on insects. If you clean off the roots and shine a light Graeme: This really is an amazing discovery. It's so impor-
on them, they'll wave-guide just like a fibre optic. Dr Popp has tant for those with non-volcanic soils.
a US$100,000 instrument to measure light in the form of Phil: I'll tell you, Graeme, and I'm not saying this because of
photons. me. I don't even care if they give me credit for it. I'm trying to
I can demonstrate the phenomenon with a $200 instrument save the family farm. This is, in my opinion, the biggest
called a pinhole camera. You just drill a hole in the lens cap agricultural discovery in the last century, but I didn't discover
and tape a rock to the camera in total darkness. In three weeks paramagnetism; I discovered the use of it. That's the difference.

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WORKING WITH PARAMAGNETISM any of the soils you mention. Paramagnetic levels range from
G r a e m e : I'd like to ask you a few questions about the 3,000 to 10,000 cgs. The interesting thing is that, even at these
mechanics of paramagnetism for my own benefit and for the elevated levels, there is still a difference in yield between soils
readers. Is there any relationship between paramagnetism and measuring 3,000 and those measuring 10,000 cgs. Even more
Brix levels? interesting, soils measuring 7,000 were still showing a visible
Phil: A recent article in Acres USA [September 2000] cited benefit from the application of basalt crusher dust which mea-
research where there was a six-point difference between low sured just 2,000 cgs. Can you explain this?
and high paramagnetic soils. It's not the complete answer, but it Phil: Here you are looking at remineralising benefits. It may
certainly plays a role. be cobalt or iron. Phil Wheeler suggests that nickel is often the
Graeme: In your book you suggest that compost, micro- missing link. Whatever the case, the response from the crusher
organisms and paramagnetism are the principal ingredients in dust isn't coming from paramagnetism here. Paramagnetism
sustainable agriculture. We use a lot more inputs than that, and stimulates bacteria to increase the bio-availability of micro- and
from experience I feel that this analysis is too simplistic. macro-nutrients, but if you don't have those nutrients present,
Calcium, potassium, phosphorus and trace elements are often you won't get the desired results. You could theoretically have
still necessary inputs. a soil measuring 15,000, but without calcium it would not pro-
Phil: I'm not anti-chemical. Like Arden Andersen and Phil duce.
Wheeler, I believe that muriate of potash is indefensible; but the Graeme: How reliable is paramagnetism as a plant growth
point I am making is that if you don't have paramagnetic energy stimulant? Can any grower source a good crusher dust, apply it
in your soil, then the fertilisers you are applying are simply not and expect to see results, assuming that his existing soil levels
being utilised. The family farm is at risk because money is are low?
being wasted. P h i l : No, definitely not. Soil life is the thing.
If you need nitrogen, then use the best source for your soil, Paramagnetism works with compost. There may be hundreds
but don't use anhydrous ammonia. I'll tell you something about of organic growers out there doubling their yields, but when
this product. Research has been cited, suggesting that earth- you apply the same material to a dead, chemically farmed soil it
worm counts can increase follow- won't work. If you don't have a
ing an application of anhydrous minimum level of organic matter,
ammonia. Now, earthworms are paramagnetism doesn't work. I've
considered the epitome of high fer- even trialled it at home. Both of my
tility. The fact here is that ammo- ...the point I am making is that turnip plots have had paramagnetic
nia attracts insects, and it also
attracts earthworms. Dead roots
if you don't have paramagnetic material added, but one has also had
compost. There is no comparison
outgas ammonia, and earthworms energy in your soil, then the between the growth: compost is the
track this emission because dead fertilisers you are applying are key.
organic matter is what they feed on. G r a e m e : That's interesting. I
You really have to understand the simply not being utilised. had no idea that the link was so
bigger picture when analysing strong. Is there a one-on-one rela-
anything. The tendency toward tionship between increasing organic
rigid, narrow-minded disciplines, matter levels and response from
considering just a little part of the paramagnetic materials?
picture, is dangerous. A holistic approach is essential. Phil: It's pretty complicated, and we haven't yet done the
Graeme: We offer a free service to growers, measuring local research to be able to be that precise. There's another 10 years
crusher dust to determine the fertilising potential of these mate- of work here, and I can't do it all.
rials. Basalt is the predominant paramagnetic material in Graeme: One of your strengths is your capacity to bring
Australia. There is a huge variation between samples, with a together the threads of many different disciplines to offer a
variation between 100 and 3,000 cgs on the meter. Why is more holistic explanation. This is in direct contrast to the
there such a variation? What exactly is it that determines levels reductionism of modern science. Has this broad-stroke
of paramagnetism? approach proved to be a handicap in terms of mainstream
Phil: This is pure speculation. I'm not a volcanologist, but credibility?
there appears to be a relationship between the amount of Phil: The generalist approach is not for anyone who wants to
magma in an eruption and the paramagnetic level of the rock win a Nobel Prize. Chuck Walters gave me a prize last year—a
erupted. Magma is from down low; many small eruptions sim- little glass plaque—and I said: "This is my Nobel Prize." It
ply don't contain this deep material. Heat is the key ingredient. wouldn't mean a hill of beans to me to win the Nobel Prize. I
Even simple composting can lift paramagnetic levels. Compost mean, the guy who invented DDT got the Nobel Prize. Credit
alone can lift a soil from 30 to 70 cgs. is rarely given where it is due.
Graeme: We've increased paramagnetic readings in the soil My favourite example is the 19th-century scientific genius,
by up to 700%, simply by correcting the calcium/magnesium John Tyndall. Tyndall actually discovered penicillin 80 years
ratio and lifting oxygen levels in the soil. before Sir Alexander Fleming did. He discovered that scent
P h i l : Oxygen is the key here. It is the most highly molecules absorb infrared radiation. He actually said that this
paramagnetic gas. When this magma erupts, it rains down and is the way olfaction works. Tyndall also discovered paramag-
it picks up oxygen. There is a link here between the heat and netism, so both of the things I'm working on today were discov-
oxidisation. ered in 1850. This is so often the case in science, but there is so
Graeme: There is one interesting phenomenon I would like much dishonesty in this industry. Egos cover the truth, and
to discuss. We do some work in an area in Queensland called credit is not given where it is due. I actually discovered these
Blackbutt. I've seen your references to optimal and high para- things myself, but then found out later that Tyndall had found
magnetic levels, but this particular area reads far higher than these things before I did.

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 Graeme: One more question about measuring paramagnet- G r a e m e : That's interesting, considering the fact that
ism with your meter: how do you differentiate between ferro- Roundup is always promoted as biodegradable.
magnetism and paramagnetism, when both affect the meter Phil: It may biodegrade eventually, but it's never specified
reading? how long this may take. The fact is that residues remain for
Phil: Yes, that is a problem. Obviously, the ideal is a mater- many months. Earthworms don't like the stuff. Darwin himself
ial with low iron levels and a high paramagnetic reading. stated that anything that will kill a plant will also affect
Graeme: We work with a scoria/crushed lava product called earthworms. As I said, herbicides are far worse than
Nutri-Score, with a reading of over 3,000 cgs, but it only has insecticides.
7.0 ppm of iron. We often combine it with other materials with Graeme: We have been promoting the concept of using
water-holding capacity, like the soft rock phosphate and humic acid with herbicides to tie up residues and reduce ongo-
humates, and then pump a microbial inoculant into the blend. ing damage. Are you familiar with this idea?
When the scoria fines are part of the blend, the microbe count Phil: Yes; it's definitely a good concept. I think Arden and
jumps from 1.0 billion per gram to 2.5 billion per gram. Phil Wheeler are promoting similar ideas. Phil Wheeler is a
Phil: That's right. It works every time, but in the soil you brilliant young physicist and a great teacher, but he tells me he
have to remember that you still need all of the chemicals in the really has to take it easy when he is talking about paramagnet-
right balance. You will still need nutrition to benefit from para- ism, because it is such a strange idea that it tends to alienate
magnetism. It's part of a bigger picture. Science is supposed to people.
study nature. When you see something happen, you experiment Graeme: I disagree with Phil [Wheeler] on that score. I
with it. Then you try to engineer it. This is when the maths agree that Phil is a highly credible communicator, but his work
comes in, but it should come in after the experiments, not with radionics has far more alienating potential than the concept
before. Thousands of researchers sit around theorising with of paramagnetism. Your PCSM takes the "witchcraft" out of
computers. That's not the way science is supposed to work. the picture. This meter is 100% reliable. If you have a good,
Graeme: One other thing we've noticed is that paramagnetic highly productive soil, it will always produce a high score on
levels are usually higher on elevated ground. Even in the the meter. Conversely, if you have a problem area, then there
Queensland case, where levels var- will always be a much lower
ied between 3,000 and 10,000 cgs, reading.
the higher readings were found at By contrast, it is a fairly hard sell
an altitude of just 400 to 500 feet. to tell a conventional grower that he
What is the explanation of this? can post a Polaroid photo of his crop
P h i l : When the volcano goes to the other side of the world and his
off, the magma comes up from the If you don't have a minimum problems will be diagnosed. It may
bottom. It forms droplets and is
charged up with oxygen. When it
level of organic matter, be true, but it is definitely more of a
fringe-dwelling concept than para-
drops back down, more of it will paramagnetism doesn't work. magnetism. Paramagnetism is now
land near the top of the cone. The provable using your meter. I feel
wind gets hold of it and spreads it that it's been completely removed
more thinly elsewhere. The weaker from the mystical realm.
stuff will always be at the bottom. P h i l : Yes, it's good, solid
physics. Even electrical engineers
WEEDS, HERBICIDES AND take one look at this meter and say,
ELECTRONICS "God, that's it!" With radionics there is one main problem:
Graeme: In your book, you make a statement about the pur- when you start trying to make a human being into an antenna,
pose of weeds. You suggest that weeds are present when nutri- you've got troubles because you can't tune a human being. One
ents are missing and that they serve the function of nutrient might measure 200,000 ohms resistance, and another measures
recycling, bringing up nutrients from down deep and often actu- 500,000 ohms. When you're trying to match an antenna to a
ally increasing paramagnetic levels. transmitter, this is a big problem. A scanner is essentially an
Phil: Yes, that's correct. They are a deficiency signpost, and impedance box, except in that case you have a stable antenna
they do recycle. The increased paramagnetism is to do with the and a stable transmitter. Scanners are incredibly operator-
extra minerals and the extra oxygen allowed into the soil when dependent. Selling one of these things to me would be like
weeds help condition the soil. selling me a violin and wanting me to play "Danny Boy" on it.
Graeme: But when you weigh up the nutrient and moisture I don't have a musical ear. Some people—dowsers, for
competition related to having weeds in your crop, do you still example—are very sensitive to radionics, but the majority of
consider that we can live with them? people cannot reliably operate a scanner, and that is the major
Phil: Often we can. There are many times when we overes- problem with this technology.
timate the competition caused by weeds. We also have to look Graeme: Is there any hope of developing a reliable scanner
at the alternative, which is herbicide. All herbicides kill micro- which is not dependent on the human antenna?
organisms. Weed killers are far worse than insecticides in this Phil: Yes, there is, and I'm working on a prototype at the
regard. moment. It's a remarkably simple idea, which should cost a
Graeme: You have mentioned the negative aspects of herbi- fraction of the current cost for scanners when I've perfected it.
cides. How does no-till farming rate with you in this regard? Graeme: You certainly managed to reduce the cost of para-
No-till farmers are some of the biggest herbicide users. magnetic meters by several hundred per cent with your PCSM.
Phil: Well, I must agree. Herbicides ruin no-till. All herbi- What is the history of the development of that meter?
cides kill micro-organisms. Some of them are more destructive Phil: Well, I knew what I wanted but I wasn't capable of
than others. Atrazine is probably the worst, but Roundup is wiring it up. I had to bring in an electrical engineer, Ed
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 Graeme: Returning to paramagnetism in agriculture, we Motor vehicles and aeroplanes are far more dangerous than
always push the paramount importance of calcium in the fertili- most of my adventures. Almost every member of my family
ty equation. What is the relationship between paramagnetic has had serious car accidents; I've had two. The whole family
response and calcium levels? has recently been involved nursing my wife who is just
Phil: Well, calcium is the most important nutrient, and you recovering from being hit by a truck; it was her second serious
won't get a good response from paramagnetic rock dusts if you accident.
have ignored your calcium. Nutrients in general won't be avail- It was a great experience with the headhunters; I might write
able if you don't have enough calcium. Paramagnetism is not a a book about it some day.
substitute for nutrition. It is something extra. Graeme: You've had 17 books published to date. Are you
Graeme: One more question about "living with weeds", working on anything at present?
because they are a major problem on both biological and con- Phil: Yes, actually I consider it pretty important. I'm doing a
ventional farms. You suggest that there is an optimum weed handbook on paramagnetism. The first part will explain what
population. What is that optimum and how is it achieved? volcanoes do; the second part will describe erosion—good ero-
Phil: Well, I think what should happen with weeds was best sion—where paramagnetic earth goes down to the rivers. Then
illustrated by Phil Wheeler in his address today. He said, "I fer-
I'll explain why you need it in the soil. Part two will contain
tilise for the plants and not the weeds." If you have weeds simple experiments with earthworms and nitrogen nodules on
growing as high as your corn, then you have not been fertilising roots, with different chemicals. It will be a simple handbook
correctly. If the crop is thriving with the right inputs, it willwhich should clarify paramagnetism for many farmers.
always outperform the weeds. Graeme: Are you familiar with the American researcher
Bruce Tainio? He has pioneered the concept of monitoring the
ANCIENT TRADITIONS, MODERN RESEARCH pH of leaf sap as a guide to plant health and nutrient
Graeme: There seems to be a tendency in eco-agriculture to requirements.
compare some of the concepts to the Phil: No, I haven't heard of his
ancient Chinese philosophy of yin work.
and yang. Arden Andersen likens Graeme: Well, apparently he
growth energies versus reproductive has also been researching para-
energies to the yin-yang concept, magnetism. I hear that he has been
and you make similar suggestions
for paramagnetism and diamagnet-
Boral has found that crushing highly paramagnetic
material with a ball roller to reduce
ism. Is there common ground paramagnetic materials it to the finest powder. This pow-
between these ideas?
P h i l : Absolutely. I once
increase water-holding der, when applied in tiny applica-
tions, has increased micro-organ-
photocopied many sections from 15 capacity by 50%. ism counts by over 300%. This
volumes I borrowed from the USDA brings me to my next question.
Library, which covered the link with How important is particle size
ancient Chinese philosophy, science when applying paramagnetic mate-
and religion. The old dowsers used rials to the soil?
to look for the right place to build a P h i l : Well, from a practical
house. They were dowsing places that were highly standpoint, dust is hard to work with. In the lab it may be
paramagnetic. relevant, but in the field we've had better results with coarser
Actually, while I was in Australia last time, I was talking material.
about Ayer's Rock with an Aboriginal man. I mentioned that it Graeme: In our case, we would usually mix the dust with
was a sacred place, but he informed me that the rock was actu- other materials to avoid this problem.
ally a meeting place, because it could be seen for miles around. Phil: Well, if you're mixing fine dust with compost, I think
The actual sacred place is 30 miles from there. I can't remem- you would be better off. Whatever you do, it's best that the
ber the name of the area. When I got to Ayer's Rock, I mea- material be "disced in", otherwise there is the possibility of
sured it and it only measured 30 or 40 cgs. When I went to encouraging shallow roots.
their sacred place, it measured 5,000 cgs!
Graeme: You certainly have a great love for travel and WATER AND PARAMAGNETISM
adventure. Has age tempered this passion at all? Graeme: We've also found a difference in readings between
Phil: People have a strange idea about age. Five years ago, wet and dry soils.
at 70, I decided to find a place where nobody had ever been, so Phil: Yes, that would be right. Water is diamagnetic. I'll tell
I found 25,000 square miles on the Amazon, which the you something important about water and paramagnetism.
Peruvians would never enter. It was controlled by a headhunt- Rainfall records show that in the American Midwest they have
ing tribe with a vicious reputation. The Peruvian government had 12 inches of rainfall every year for the past 100 years. There
rented me an army plane; I guess they wanted to see what were never droughts prior to World War II, but now they are
would happen. I flew in with a friend of mine. The pilot commonplace. They are still getting the same water. So what's
dropped us off and I said, "Don't forget to pick us up in three changed? Fifty to 60 years ago, average paramagnetic levels in
weeks." those soils were 300 to 400; now they are always below 100 cgs.
I walked in and found the headhunting tribe and lived with The results I've just received from the Australian company
them for three weeks. There was no problem. The key is to go Boral, which is working with these concepts, confirm the reason.
in smiling. If you go in unarmed and not speaking their lan- Boral has found that paramagnetic materials increase water-
guage but with a big smile on your face, they are fascinated. holding capacity by 50%.
It's like bringing them a new TV. Pretty soon they're calling The point is that the paramagnetic force can and will erode
you "Uncle". We were almost killed in the plane going in. over time. Modern farming techniques speed that erosion. It's

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not a new phenomenon. It's just sped up a lot. academics are constantly trying to discredit me. A colleague
I've been working in Phoenix, Arizona, looking at tabletop was recently involved in an argument about my ideas with the
basin farming. How did the Indians have farms on top of the head of an entomology department. The guy was completely
mesa in 12 inches of rainfall with no way to irrigate at all? One closed. Finally, my friend said, "Well, what if he's right?" The
mesa I found was suitable for irrigation because there were 12 department head said, "That would be real bad." Obviously if
springs on top, but all the rest of them had no springs. One I'm right, then there are a whole lot of people who have been
archaeologist suggested that they must have carried water up wrong for a long time.
the mountaintop, but this was simply not feasible. They had to Graeme: Yes, I guess it would force them to confront their
depend on the rain. I have a photo of a mesa, which was actual- entire belief systems.
ly taken by Charles Lindbergh. You can see in this photo Phil: Yes, that fellow was right. It would be bad for them. I
exactly where the Indians had farmed. I went to the mesa and think I will receive due credit eventually; in fact, I know I will,
under the adobe, where it had never been farmed, the paramag- but probably after my death—but at least it will keep my grand-
netic levels were 800 or 900, but where it had been farmed the children from starving. Historians usually manage to straighten
levels were down to 50 or 60 cgs. Basically, the Midwestern things out.
farmers had eroded away their paramagnet- G r a e m e : Have figures for likely
ic force in a 50-year period, while the increases in paramagnetism levels been
Indians had taken 300 or 400 years to determined yet? For example, if you had a
achieve the same depletion. soil measuring 100 cgs and you put on five
The point I'm making is that these soils tonnes of crusher dust measuring 2,000 cgs
can easily be re-energised. It may only last per hectare, do you have any idea of the
10 or 12 years in our irrigated farms, but it end gain?
is relatively inexpensive and it can make a Phil: No, we have been talking about
huge difference to production. The Indians [US] Midwestern that just recently. It's a new concept, and
abandoned their land when the energy had we really are at the pioneering stage. No
fallen below 100, as it was no longer farmers had eroded one has done this kind of work yet, but I'm
viable. We don't need to do that. away their sure it won't be too far off. I mean, opti-
Graeme: Yes; we have found that, in mum levels may vary for different plants.
orchard situations where growers use paramagnetic force There is a huge amount of research needed.
under-tree sprinklers, the paramagnetic in a 50-year period, Graeme: I would suspect that there is a
reading is often half of the inter-row perfect soil that grows everything just
area or the area just outside the while the Indians right. In our case, that soil would
sprinkler line. I wasn't aware that the had taken 300 or 400 have a pH of 6.3, the perfect calci-
energy could be eroded like this. um/magnesium ratio, over 5% organic
Phil: Yes, that's what's happening, years to achieve the matter, balanced cations, balanced
but it's more than that because during
the rain period the tree collects water
same depletion. anions and a functioning biology. In
that perfect soil I would like to see a
and then drips, and this dripping paramagnetic reading exceeding 500
action will erode paramagnetism. I cgs.
measured Stone Mountain in Georgia, Phil: I would tend to agree with
which is white granite. The top of the you. Balance is everything. I just
granite, which is exposed to the ele- wish there was some funding to find
ments, measured 30 or 40 cgs, but the out more about these things.
bottom, where it is sheltered, mea- Graeme: It will have to come from
sured 2,000 cgs. The force weathers private enterprise. When there's a
over time. profit to be made, the funds will come
Graeme: Do you do much in the way of seminars or talks from everywhere. There is no great conspiracy surrounding
here in the US? chemical companies: they are merely chasing a profit. When
Phil: No, there is far more interest in these concepts in other demand changes focus, these same guys will sell organics. Our
countries. I only ever speak at Acres USA conferences these goal is to speed up that change.
days. When I was in Australia last, I gave 18 talks. While I
was in Japan recently, I had 35 invitations to talk. I had actual- A POWERFUL HEALING REGIMEN
ly been invited over there as the first Westerner to open one of Phil: That change is already happening in human health,
their sacred buildings. where the big companies are now trying to grab a piece of the
Apparently tree growth on many of their sacred sites had growing market for minerals and supplements.
slowed to a halt. They read my book on paramagnetism and Graeme: Yes, the reason that the demand for supplements
applied some volcanic ash to some of the trees. The trees and natural medicines has grown is because people have dis-
sprang to life, and they rewarded me with this honour. The covered that a lot of them work better than their drugs…
people my wife and I were introduced to at the ceremony Phil: Well, I cured my boy's arthritis with paramagnetism. I
included the Japanese royals, but we weren't even aware of it at cured my own lung cancer with this force. Lower back pain is
the time. easy to cure with it.
Graeme: It's amazing, after all your work, that you still have Graeme: Tell me about it: I've suffered lower back pain for
a credibility problem in the United States. years!
Phil: Well, it's 17 books and 150 or so published scientific Phil: Well, my book, Ancient Mysteries, Modern Visions,
articles, but I've never been approached by a single American covers this a little. One chapter is about how to make a shatnez.
company to commercialise any of my projects. Mainstream Shatnez is an old Hebrew word. I found out from the rabbis

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that the high priests used to wear this piece of cloth called a it lasted something like 20 or 30 minutes, sort of like a fluores-
shatnez. The high priest would wrap this cloth around himself. cent lightbulb dying down.
The high priest was a doctor and he had to spend time helping God takes care of you. When I got to Germany, there were
the lepers. He had to have a good immune system to survive. I meetings going on everywhere at the university. Dr Popp
figured that maybe this garment is part of a healing system. couldn't find a graduate student to help with the research.
The Irish take the halter of a donkey, which is drenched in There were two Russian scientists working there who could
sweat, and they wrap this around arthritic joints, with great speak English. I don't use a computer—all my work is done
results. The cloth the priests used was woven with wool one with a pencil and paper—but, to speed things up, you really
way and linen the other way. The American pioneers called the have to have a computer. These Russian guys dropped every-
same cloth linsey-woolsey. The Hebrews call it shatnez. It is thing and helped me with the computer side of things. They
arguably the best cloth ever invented. It retains moisture really were absolutely flabbergasted. When they saw the coherent
well, but it also dries really quickly. If you wet it, it stays damp radiation with a memory coming out of a paramagnetic rock,
forever; but if you want it dry and put it in the sun, it dries in a they were just jumping up and down like a couple of kids.
hurry. So it makes a good cloth and it's great for soaking up Graeme: When were you in Germany?
sweat. Phil: It was at this time that I started coughing. I thought it
I made a vest of this material and I soaked it in seawater to was a cold, but when I got home to Florida, it got worse. At
mimic sweat. I found out that you don't necessarily even need first they thought it was tuberculosis, but then I was told I had
linsey-woolsey. My wife made me a vest out of a burlap sack. lung cancer.
I soaked it in seawater and wrapped it in plastic cling wrap to Graeme: How did you feel about the diagnosis?
retain the moisture. I used to wear this damp vest over a T-shirt Phil: To be honest, I really didn't worry about it. You are
to keep the plastic away from my body. When I was diagnosed going to die sometime, and I have no fear of the prospect. I
with lung cancer, it was the cornerstone of my own treatment wanted to test my own treatment, and it worked for me. A
regime. damp burlap vest soaked in seawa-
I spent five years evaluating the ter and wrapped in plastic, a tea-
damage done with herbicides and spoon of garlic and a tablespoon
pesticides, and I'm sure there was a They were absolutely of paramagnetic rock did the
link to the cancer. Anyway, I also trick…
took garlic every day and ate a flabbergasted. When they saw G r a e m e : Thanks for your
tablespoon of highly paramagnetic the coherent radiation with a time. I've had a great afternoon.
dirt each day. The tumour shrank P h i l : It's been a pleasure. I
and I cured myself. I also made memory coming out of a hope to see you in Australia some
one of these vests for my wife for paramagnetic rock, they were time. ∞
her arthritis. Her persistent lower
back pain disappeared in a week just jumping up and down
About the Interviewee:
and a half.
Then she put it on her shoulder,
like a couple of kids. Philip S. Callahan, PhD, is a
rare combination of scientist,
which had arthritis, and it was also
natural philosopher and world
cured. So far I've cured 15 people traveller. He is the author of
with arthritis with this one vest. The more than 150 scientific papers and 17 books, including
last chapter of my new book is to describe how to make this Insect Behavior (1971), Tuning in to Nature (1975), Birds
vest, but I've just told you instead. There are two chapters and How They Function (1979), Ancient Mysteries, Modern
planned for this next book: one is about the pattern for this Visions (1984), Nature's Silent Music (1992), Exploring the
cloth and how to make it, and the second one is about how to do Spectrum (1994), Paramagnetism (1996), and My Search for
it cheaper with a piece of burlap. Tr aces of God (1997)—a very personal mem oir that
Graeme: When is the next book due for release? describes his own spiritual development, the influence of
Phil: It will have to be soon, probably six to 12 months. I divine guidance on his discoveries, and the physics of
have so many people asking me about this cure. It will also miraculous events (see review, NEXUS 5/06). His article,
depend on how long it will take Acres USA to publish the book. "The Invention of Wireless Communication", was published
[As we go to press, the book is yet to be released. Ed.] in NEXUS 7/01.
Graeme: I look forward to it.
About the Interviewer:
THE MAGIC OF PARAMAGNETISM Graeme Sait is CEO and co-founder of Queensland-based
Graeme: Another agricultural question: if you had to short- company Nutri-Tech Solutions Pty Ltd (NTS), which is now
list the four major benefits of paramagnetism in agriculture, a recognised world leader in biological agriculture. NTS
what would they be? services 15,000 farmers, exports to 25 locations and has
Phil: Well, as I mentioned, water retention is a big one. developed over 200 products. Graeme is also a writer and
Microbial stimulation is another, and improved nutrient utilisa- educator, responsible for the holistic NTS systems approach.
tion is a major factor, but the provision of a light energy source He developed the highly successful Soil Therapy™ and
is very important. Plant Therapy™ services. He is a sought-after speaker at
When I was working with Dr Popp on this one, he was very seminars and conferences throughout Australia, and he
surprised. He had been getting coherent radiation from seeds recently addressed two conferences in the USA. Graeme is
and I had been getting it from insects, but he didn't think it author of over 60 articles, and has conducted an interview
would happen in rocks. When he measured the 2,000 protons series with the leaders in sustainable agriculture, which is
that came out of a rock, not only did his proton counter show soon to be published as a book. Visit the Nutri-Tech
that it was coherent, but it also had a memory! In other words, Solutions website at http://www.nutri-tech.com.au.

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