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Euro/Copa Betting Strategy Overview

1. The document provides guidelines for traders on an important new system called "BOTSY" that selects pregame bets based on exchange liquidity. 2. Special "BOTSY" bets for Euro 2020 and Copa America championships have specific rules for taking advantage of a broker deal. 3. BOTSY bets will be triggered 8 hours, 4 hours, and 30 minutes before kickoff, or when a member sends a trigger; the earlier a bet arrives, the more urgent it is. 4. Traders should follow the Euro 2020/Copa America guideline and consider their execution options when a BOTSY bet arrives.
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Euro/Copa Betting Strategy Overview

1. The document provides guidelines for traders on an important new system called "BOTSY" that selects pregame bets based on exchange liquidity. 2. Special "BOTSY" bets for Euro 2020 and Copa America championships have specific rules for taking advantage of a broker deal. 3. BOTSY bets will be triggered 8 hours, 4 hours, and 30 minutes before kickoff, or when a member sends a trigger; the earlier a bet arrives, the more urgent it is. 4. Traders should follow the Euro 2020/Copa America guideline and consider their execution options when a BOTSY bet arrives.
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TRADER SPACE

IMPORTANT

When sending 803 Euro/Copa picks tell them the book you’re basing the +2 price off to help them speed
up the process

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IMPORTANT

New strategy for NY Mike - first thing every morning make sure we’re sending them our list of leagues
for dead ball and early market. A lot of leagues were missing that aren’t on the document they provided.

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IMPORTANT

For Euros game day 803 deal is 20k for all bets, so when we are sending them game day make sure to
send 20k.

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IMPORTANT

Any EURO/COPA AMERICA bets we have exclusivity to 803 as they will be giving us the following deal;

• 2 cents above Asia (sing/pinnacle/ISN)

• From main line or 1 line either side

• Deadball HCP 20k USD

• EM HCP 15k USD

• Deadball O/U 15k min USD

• EM O/U 10k USD

There are some restrictions - highest odds 6 cents above singbet as a max.

For example: If singbet is 1.95 and ISN is 2.00, they give 2.01 instead of 2.02.

Even though we have this deal we should still be optimising these bets to every extreme, you should still
be using the Bet365/Unibet/BetCris accounts from Yannick and also SCB.

*If you are getting 1.5 cents better than the deal price you should take alone, for EG on
Penta/Matchbook etc, so for EG

Penta 2.07

SBO 2.06
IBC 2.05

Pinn 2.02

ISN 2.01

Sing 1.97

If a 1 star bet you should take SCB for best price/odds and then take alone rest if can fulfil the stake
required*

On games where the deal is relevant you should take for whatever the deal states, so even 1 star bets
we could be taking around 20k USD.

I will explain to everyone in detail also so we are all on the same page.

EURO EM start from 11am UK

EURO Dead Ball Start from 8am UK

To record these bets use - EE

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EVERYONE READ AND UNDERSTAND, ITS VERY IMPORTANT

NY Mike wasn't able to take USA2 when its on the list, they just said NO, why couldn't they take? Maybe
its because its not 5 hours before? maybe they can take 2 hours before? maybe 1? we don't know
because we don't ask/sound the alarm...

NY Mike is an amazing broker, Andy/Aron work hard to get these brokers for us, we all need to work
hard in keeping them and maximising them and to find out how they tick, I am not saying that traders
need to speak to them about this as we have to be very sensitive with this broker as they are so good,
but what I do expect is to sound the alarm on these kind of things, tell me/Aron, call us, message us,
whatever it takes to sound the alarm, this broker agreed to a "deal" whatever league is on the list then
they can take as soon as they break the deal then we must sound the alarm. I have seen it happen many
times with many different brokers, I am using this example as its more recent and its a good clear
example for us all to understand and be better as a team.

Also, from now on we must all know the following information from a broker... (see image)

As well as online/offline times (can they take on Monday? is a common question) and do they move? (if
any missing let us know)

This information should be set in a template style here so if any information is missing ask Aron first for
permission to ask them unless you are sure that its not a big issue IE online/offline times.

Me and Aron are working on a permanent solution so that all traders are exposed to all the new
information for reference.

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IMPORTANT

WHEN SENDING YANNICK UNIBET OUTLET, THE MAX STAKE SHOULD ALWAYS BE 7K PER LINE (make
sure you specify this)

Seeing max stakes of 22k from yesterday and while they've been consistent with the 5.2k (per line)
returns, it only takes us giving them that bit more room once and they could kill us.

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IMPORTANT

Last night I tested manipulating 108, where by i would manipulate the bet, waited up to 5 minutes
dependent on the rise and take with them. Whenever i rose the sing they would take straight away and
didn’t complain at all, returned the amount they should have and only dropped it a little on avg after
waiting 1 hour before either waiting for limits for the morning or taking alone right away, this process on
the most part was successful and we should follow this process in future. As i was getting instant
execution I decided to take up to $600 investment (sometimes more dependent on the size of the sing)

So, you should start manipulating from 12:30am (30 minutes before 108 come online). if you have any
problems then report here.

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To record HEN365 you should use – he

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IMPORTANT

Yannick have a new UNIBET outlet...

Unibet -1 cent for 5k NO MOVE...

GAMEDAY - Basically any league with unibet

EARLY - Top 15 leagues, but should always ask them with any medium league and above

Cases so far…

ENGPL - Liverpool for tomorrow (5.6k return no move)

GERREG - SSV Ulm (5.2k return no move)

ENG2 - Newport (5.2k return no move)

MOR1 - Wydad (5.2k return no move)


Yannick says it’s a layer, so always send them league, if they give the OK send them full bet and make
sure we monitor for no move, BIG TIP... make sure we send the small leagues to them FIRST as it’s a
LAYER, I assume they won’t need to preserve the account or any of that bullshit, so let’s rinse them...

Want everyone rinsing through UNIBETS from now, but make sure we monitor, can add them to action
man and check after 30 minutes, report if see any initial drops or any drops after 30 mins.

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IMPORTANT

803

Today from 8am UK can try sing -2 10k limits for 7k USD

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IMPORTANT

Nobody message in the TM chat on tipmaster.

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IMPORTANT

When sending Yannick and Lorenzo.

This should be the process:

Send the game, league and market only - as an example:

 English Premier League


 Wolves vs Burnley
 Total Goals

Then ask what their estimate is for the bet. Then send the bet through if it's a take. Naturally, if Yannick
say they can get 20k dependent on the selection then we're in a similar spot to Mads.

Please make sure to follow this and if any issues, be sure to report.

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IMPORTANT

A3 only getting 15k no move, so been manipulating and sending straight away, they get 15k and no
move and then i send m7 5 minutes later, so we get around 5-6k total at top odds and no complaint
from brokers, taken around 4 bets so far

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VERY IMPORTANT

EARLY GAMES FOR TOMORROW PROCESS

 Send the image of the early games to the skype chat prompting the early morning traders.
 Check the excel to see if we have bets for the games in question (before the time the early
morning broker comes online).
 Organise live broker to help cover the games and inform the traders if they are able to cover.

We should never have early morning games that offer sing out on the system without asking the live
brokers to cover!

Make sure everyone follows this procedure, we cant be losing bets here, because if we don't then we
end up getting 1k taking alone as oppose to 6/7k with broker... so if you make an error by not following
the procedure we lose 5-6k exposure on every spot!! so very important.

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IMPORTANT

BET365 STAKE CHANGE!

Instead of 50, place 75! so if all slaves take then it should be 750 per bet ... let’s still keep checking the
market closely after taking, including whether or not you drop the actual bet365 price!

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IMPORTANT

GUIDELINE for the EURO2020/COPA AMERICA BETS, so every bet refer to this guideline VERY
IMPORTANT

ALSO everyone make sure to bookmark this!

We have a NEW SYSTEM called "BOTSY".

What is BOTSY?
- BOTSY is a new PREGAME system and bases off the exchange liquid in the market and selects picks that
we deem as value, these picks will arrive on the system at selected times and can be triggered to open
at certain times. The more early a BOTSY bet comes out the more urgent it is (more specific details on
this below) and it will continue to lose value over time, so you need to work out your execution points
and decide whether to take now or at a later point, rarely it should pass your first execution point but
more details on this below. Generally speaking we should treat these bets the same way we do
"superdroppers" where by if we have some type of execution we take as early as we can.

SPECIAL BOTSYS
- Special BOTSYS are bets from the league EURO2020 championship OR COPA America. Why are these
special? as we have specific rules of taking these bets as well as a special broker deal (VERY IMPORTANT)
Follow the "EURO2020/COPA AMERICA Guideline" this will make it very easy for you to understand
these spots :)

TIMES AND TRIGGERS

When will a BOTSY arrive?


- 8 hours before KO
- 4 hours before KO
- 30 minutes before KO
- when a member sends (trigger for BOTSY to automatically open if same bet)

Thought Process

When a BOTSY arrives ask yourself the following questions (like any other bet)

- Is it a special botsy? (euro2020/copaamerica guideline)


- Can i execute the full bet now? (execution X)
- If not how much stake can i take now and at what odds? (execution point 1)
- How much stake can i take if i wait for pregame limits? (execution point 2)
- How much stake can i take if i wait for live? (live execution)

After answering these questions (assuming that the first 2 Q's are a NO) compare your stake and odds of
execution, for example...

execution point 1 (how much i can take now) = 1.88 $3000


execution point 2 (how much i can take when pregame limits rise) = 1.88 $4000 (but have to wait 6
hours)
execution point 3 (how much i can take live) = 1.87 $7000 (but have to wait 8 hours)

So in this situation even if the bet is a 4 star would still rather take $3000 at 1.88 now than waiting as its
just too long to wait especially when we need to consider the bet a "superdropper". I will go over cases
to make sure you understand when to take now and when to hold, holding should be rare.

Questions (you may ask)

If BOTSY becomes a 0 star when should I reject?


- Same as the current 0 star rules (only reject when you was going to execute the bet)

What if BOTSY becomes a 0 star and I have already taken part of the bet?
- Delete the entry and REJECT if you haven't taken 30% of your intended execution point
- Send off if you have taken 30% or more of your intended execution point
803 say they can only take at certain odds, why?
- There is a rule by where 803 are not able to give the special deal if the price we give is 6 cents+ more
than sing real price, so ask them if they can take at certain odds if its value for us.

Can i include the 3rd digit when sending to 803?


- YES and its important to always do if applicable

Can i resend the same bet to 803?


- Ask them

Can a BOTSY be sent more than once to our system?


- Only 1 BOTSY bet, unless the bet has been rejected previously then can pop back out again in the
selected timers/triggers mentioned

Wheres the EURO2020/COPA AMERICA GUIDELINE and the 803 deal?


- Details of both are below.

EURO2020/COPA AMERICA GUIDELINE

STEP 1 - is it a euro2020 or COPA america bet?

IF YES - move to step 2


IF NO - you shouldnt be reading this guideline :)

STEP 2 - is the bet a 2 star or higher?

IF YES - move to step 3


IF NO - execute as usual (take alone/scb/betcris/bet365/exchanges)

STEP 3 - Is the special 803 deal 1.5 cents or more worse than the price you can get taking alone? (only
considering the main line/the line the BOTSY states)

IF YES - take alone like usual (also considering scb/betcris/yannick/bet365/exchanges)


IF NO - move to step 4

STEP 4 - Is there better value in taking "no move brokers/bookies" (SCB/BET365/exchanges) than the
803 deal?

IF YES - take as fast as you can then move to step 5


IF NO - move to step 5

STEP 5 - Is the bet a "TOTAL" bet (IE OVER/UNDER)?

IF YES - send the main line (what BOTSY says) to 803 and state 15k USD (regardless if taken any stake at
step 4)
IF NO - send the main line (what BOTSY says) to 803 and state 20k USD (regardless if taken any stake at
step 4)

803 euro2020/copaamerica DEAL


- they give 2 cents ABOVE PIN/SING/ISN
- from main line or a line either side (main line only for BOTSY)
Deadball HCP 20k USD
• EM HCP 15k USD
• Deadball O/U 15k min USD
• EM O/U 10k USD

I will need to go through this with everyone individually. If you haven't spoke to me then you shouldn't
be taking BOTSY bets.

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SUPER IMPORTANT

When we send bets to 803 EURO/COPA (or any bets/broker in general) make sure we don’t send
CONFLICTS, it’s very important that we don't do it to 803, everyone needs to make sure to double check
the green excel especially on the bets I have mentioned.

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IMPORTANT

WOTSYF SIDES are now ACTIVE

- treat them as the same rules as usual WOTSYF

- If betbrain wrong take the main line and only include the other line if need stake

- Whenever betbrain wrong or the betbrain is weird (like one line being crazy better than the other then
take the bet then call me, this is important)

Any other issues/questions call me (Y)

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IMPORTANT

WOTSYF SIDES will be coming soon, they will be testing so whenever you see WOTSYF TEST then DONT
take it, just leave on system, thanks.... when the system goes live i will let you all know.

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IMPORTANT
Shouldn’t you or should you not create a pick? Follow below...

Tech Issue - if you believe there is a tech issue of any kind that is preventing the member from sending a
pick the you can create manually. (CREATE PICK)

Member has written approval from andy/neta/eliav - (CREATE PICK)

 If member asks for another unit but of postponed/cancelled/void - (DONT CREATE PICK - call
eliav/neta)
 If member pick rejected previously - (CREATE PICK and take but call eliav/neta before confirming
to member) (IF LIVE BET then TAKE, but call after sent the bet off)

Any other issues then call Eliav and he will guide you.

That’s basic understanding, missing anything?

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VERY IMPORTANT

RULE CHANGE

From now on we should place bet365 whenever we deem the price as VALUE (not just top/above) so for
example...

 4 star bet
 ISN 2.01
 PIN 2
 SING 1.97
 BET365 1.97

Then we can place bet365 at 1.97 as we deem it as value... this makes reporting suspected drops etc
EVEN MORE IMPORTANT as in theory the bet365 will be more likely to drop asia when its within the
market as opposed to just being top price/above.

This means we will be placing way more bets than ever, so there should be a huge increase which i
will be monitoring, so lets make sure that it is used.

WHEN TO TAKE?

BET365 should be taken at the earliest point AFTER manual manipulation (phase 3) so for example...

 pin 1.98
 sing 1.95
 isn 1.94
 bet365 1.92

We manipulate to...

 isn 2.07
 pin 2.05
 bet365 2.03
 sing 2.01

Then we take bet365 straight away then proceed with the bet the way you would usually take, as
we will be manipulating most of the time before taking bet365 its important that you see the immediate
affect (1 minute) after hitting bet365.

What we need to do and find out as a team???

- does bet365 drop asia?

- make sure we screenshot before and after bet365 price (screenshot site not nowgol as jake said
nowgol delayed which is a problem so we need to see site for accuracy)

- does bet365 push up after we manipulate? (do not rely on the dynamic list! as 10 mins delayed)

- make sure we take bet365 at the earliest manipulation point (explained above)

- make sure from now on we take bet365 when value (not just top of market) (explained above)

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IMPORTANT

Any games that start 10am onwards DO NOT manipulate during the night shift, i want to wait for
the early morning traders to do so it’s closer to kick off as the majority of what i am seeing is that the
limits if they go up don’t go up by much as i haven't noticed early morning manipulations being harder
to push so it makes sense that we wait closer to game time for phase 3 (manual manipulation) just make
sure they are manipulated before the 2 hour threshold, and then again for phase 4 (wait for live
manipulation) unless obviously you are sending to broker.

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IMPORTANT

108 Manipulation

I know we should always manipulate before sending to broker but 108 is especially important, why?

 Good immediate returns


 Dont drop market that much (most sing -3 cents)
 They are competent in terms of time and execution

So when you are expecting them to arrive at 1am always start manipulating at 12:30,
pinnacle/isn will always push the sings and then put a 30 minute timer and execute as soon as they
come online, i did this over the weekend, around 10-20 bets and gained in-between 5-10 cents each
time.

Another important point is to be aware of the early time morning threshold, this time is 5am so
be aware for limit increases just before 5am and take with them ASAP, manipulating first, this proved
huge success over the weekend gaining a lot of cents as well as them providing execution for the early
morning games (games before a live broker would come online, before 8am)

@Luke @Kale be aware of this process as this is very important for the nights.

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IMPORTANT

QUALITY CONTROL

I have invited everyone into a private conversation (please accept), why? as a private conversation
allows another chat adjacent to the current one (see image) This will allow me to store all your quality
control cases for reference for when we speak and what you need to work on, DO NOT write in the
private conversation, I want it to act as case details only, the only thing i want you to do is thumbs up
the case when we have been over it and you have understood fully why the case was good/bad. This will
then ensure we don’t miss any case that has been flagged. A quality control chat will be made tomorrow
where the process will be me reporting cases in the chat then attaching those cases to our private chats
on skype, remember it is your own responsibility to take control of your learning especially now when
the shifts are getting quieter. These quality control checks will identify your level and its up to you on
getting to the next level, learning from mistakes and teaching your good cases to others.

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IMPORTANT

- We DO NOT use Aussie servers anymore

- We now access betcris on steve servers (details below)

- We now have 2 NEW steve servers, steve 3 and steve 4

Details for new Steves

- Add new connection on radmin

- Name of entry = VPN Steve 3

- IP = [Link]

- Port = 11045
- Username = Steve

- Domain = roshtech

- Password = the usual one

- Add new connection on radmin

- Name of entry = VPN Steve 4

- IP = [Link]

- Port = 11046

- Username = Steve

- Domain = roshtech

- Password = the usual one

Details for Betcris and how to access

- Betcris Srikanth (BS) = Steve1 (use roboform)

- Betcris Corey (BC) = Steve 3 (google auto fill)

- Betcris Brendan (BB ) = Steve 4 (google auto fill)

Images below to show method of logging in and reference for shortcut/which account using

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IMPORTANT

Process

 Priority list for broker


 Games going into live (just before game time)
 Game day bets in time order
 Early Bets
 Waiting Bets
 Live play (dont do this for the moment)

Manipulation Waves

 Morning 6am
 Afternoon 12pm
 Evening 6pm
 Night 12am
Waves

 Order the dynamic list by time (closest to kick off) and go to each bet and press the P button and
ascend down the list
 Start with active list
 Then open list
 Other game day lists
 Early list
 Waiting list

 Once finished manipulating all bets then wait again to manipulate the bets unless another
process arrives before then such as list for broker, games going into lives, live bets.
 Priority list for broker - Try to manipulate each bet before sending to broker, if you have pushed
the market up then wait 5 minutes before sending (adjust time dependant on broker)
 Games going into live (just before game time) - 5 minutes before game time bets that you will
be sending to 678/120 in live play you should try to manipulate, simply click on each bet when
its in the live list and press the P button, that is it.
 Live play (678 only) - After sending to 678/120 a live bet QUICKLY press the P button, i will
automate this process once we get the manual data, but need to see if this works first of all.
Make sure we DON'T DELAY the bets we send, make sure to only hit the P button AFTER sending
to broker but be fast.

Exchange Manipulation Button

All we need to do is to click this button once.

The logic of the button is as follows... the button once pressed by a trader will attempt 1 cent above the
arb price ("no cost") and then 0.001 cent above the betfair offering on the opposite side ("cost")

Information

 DO NOT manipulate actively rising/dropping markets


 DO NOT manipulate bets where you think you wont be able to take 3k or more on the value side
 DO NOT take MF2 at lower odds that you usually would just because you have pushed the
market up
 Can choose to press the P button on more than one line, this is up to the trader
 Only press the P button once per cycle
 Orange means placing/pending
 Red means taken and will apply more stake to our value side as well as detriment to our value
side odds
 No need to open the opposite side on Molotov as all data is stored, all you need to do is press
the P button at certain times under the right conditions
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IMPORTANT (BET365 ACCOUNTS)

Claud/Yong/Kale have already done this, but i need everyone else to do...

Step by step of how to get new bet365 accounts on your personal work computer.

- Go to google

- Download "anydesk"

- Press run/accept whatever

- Follow "image 2" (make sure to save the remote ID numbers, there are 2, 1 for each BET365 account)

- Password to access both is "albania12"

- Once in your connections should look like "image 3"

- Done

Bet365 Account Aim

What is the overall aim for placing bets on these accounts? - We want to test these accounts as much
and as fast as possible, using up all the credit whenever possible, so these accounts need to be checked
throughout the day to see if anymore credit back. After testing (which you will be notified on) we will
increase the amounts from £50 to £1000 per bet.

Rules on Monitoring

- Assume that each placement will NOT drop the market

- But still make sure to check if the market (asia) was affected straight after taking, upto 15 minutes later
and generally throughout the day (if see bet365 price is majority of the time better then REPORT to me)

Rules on Execution

- Place on the account when see that bet365 is VALUE (by value I mean in relative to our execution)

- £50 flat stake (I put each account as automatically £50 so all you need to do is press place)

- Can bet on any league, any market condition, as long as value (even early bets)

- DO NOT mix accounts, by that I mean only 1 account per BET (you CAN bet OVER for 1 and MINUS for
the other for eg)
Information

- There are 2 accounts "elismati" and "oliwalt93"

- elismati shortcut to record = H3 (HEN365)

- oliwalt93 shortcut to record = B3 (BEN365)

Any issues then call me.

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IMPORTANT

If you mark/change a member bet wait live on DL it is your responsibility to make sure you tell the
member wait live/has already been told.

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IMPORTANT

When taking on PINN Greece & PINN Steve, make sure that the VPN is connected to the correct country
before logging through the PINN site.

 PINN Greece should be connected to Greece


 PINN Steve should be connected to Israel

Do that by checking the tab which should always be on the far left. If it's not connected to the correct
country, DO NOT LOGIN

Also, if you find the PINN servers slow, restart the VM directly on the server

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IMPORTANT

When reporting member drops, it's important to do it as two separate images as it makes it clearer for
Neta, Eliav & Bryan.

You should send one as just the graph. And then, the second should show the betslip etc.

Remember, if for whatever reason you can't see the blue line in the graph, please include the time the
member sent the bet in.

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IMPORTANT

There is now a process to follow when reporting MEMBER ISSUES,


 Add "graph/punteam site messages" (if needed)
 Add "Members Name"
 Add "PICK ID"
 Add "MAIN issue" this issue should be one of the following, if not then put OTHER in the main
issue section
 Add "Sub Issue" (if applicable) a sub issue is an issue that isnt on the main issue list and if an
issue that occurs only because a main issue exists, a good example of a sub issue is "no buttons
used".
 Add "Write Up" give detail of everything you can dependant on how busy you are, make sure
you’re to the point and leave any
 Add "Tag" (if applicable) you can decide to not leave a tag UNLESS you believe that it is very
urgent and member needs to be spoken to right away then tag as "URGENT" or if the member is
a regular offender regarding the main issue then then tag as "REGULAR"

Here is the template to use when reporting...

Member:

PICK ID:

Main Issue:

Sub Issue:

Write Up:

Tag:

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IMPORTANT

I've added a Sing to Steve 1 and Steve 2. They will be same max limits as we see on betslip.

 Treat them as if they give 1 cent above sing broker price on asian handicap so if sing is 1.92
broker price on -0.75, take if you want 1.93
 For 1x2 price, treat as same as sing real price on the sing site as we receive zero commission. So
price taken on the third picture would be same as betslip 5.80 as it's a 1x2 bet.
 These are designed to help with the failures we have on betslip.
 They may be best used for when we are waiting for live and taking alone because then we don't
have any time to reduce the limits on betslip in order to take the sings.
 Record at the odds and stake you take on singbet.
 Please bear in mind that we lose -2 cents on the commission compared to our accounts
currently on betslip

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IMPORTANT

When we receive a member bet that is a QUESTION MARK, make sure we check the league and
if they are not allowed then REJECT (even if we OR the bot has already said PENDING).

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