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>>Crow: Alright man, welcome to the introduction for episode 111. I have Jason Lindgren with me, and
Stephen John Miller. We’re going to go over remedies for the idea of the Straw Man, and I will put it
right out front there. We’ve heard foundational ideas that have recurred in a very similar or nearly
identical way over and over and over. So there is a basis for the things being said here. But I would point
out, if you are a person out there who feels like you should better understand what to do, if you are
hauled in, in front of the magistrate, into a court situation, then you’ll be interested in this episode. But I
would point out, even further, you need to educate yourself. Jason and I have talked to a number of
people. We have done research on this for some time, and there is a foundational basis. But that does
not excuse a person from giving themself an education to be absolutely sure they understand what they
are doing. If they are ever in a position where they’re in a court, or in front of the magistrate, or any
legal situation in this world, they need to understand what they are doing. Having said that, these
episodes that we’re providing, lay down a good foundation for people who want to research it further
and educate themselves. And I will state again, this is at least the third time from my experience, I’m not
sure where Jason is at, where the same idea is being reiterated in a slightly different way, on how one
should conduct themselves. The idea of this episode was to get remedies, and we did have some
challenges. We were talking to an individual on a cell phone, in a camp, in New Mexico, through Skype,
which made it challenging to say the least. But people who stick with this, will find there are some
interesting things to know in this episode. Let’s jump in with Jason, and tackle episode 111. Cheers.

Alright, man. Welcome to Crrow777 Radio Podcast. This is episode 111. I have Stephen John Miller with
me, and I have Jason Lindgren. And this is going to be a very interesting show on the tail of the one we
just did with Clint Richardson. This show is going to focus in a little more tightly on what is called
remedies. Anyhow, welcome Jason.

>>Jason: Good morning, Crow.

>>Crow: How goes it in your neck of the woods, man?

>>Jason: It’s wonderful here, and I’m looking forward to this continuation of the very hot iron we were
striking on last week.

>>Crow: It’s a popular, popular topic. People are really into it. They’re researching all over the web, and
one of the most common replies that I got from the last show, was basically requesting what about

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remedies? You know, how do we maintain a standing in society, and try and free ourselves from the
nonsense that is called fictitious law at this point. Anyhow, welcome Stephen.

>>Stephen: Hey, Crow.

>>Crow: Hey man, it’s really good to have you just so everyone listening knows, we’re doing this in a
new way. We’re bringing Stephen in via cell phone, from a very remote location. Anyhow, Jason, I’m
going to kick it straight to you so we can get in and start getting to the meat and potatoes here.

>>Jason: Absolutely. So Stephen, just for the listener’s sake, why don't you give a little background on
yourself and who you are, and how you got involved with a lot of this straw man identity stuff, and all
the legalities and how that all works?

>>Stephen: Okay, Jason. First of all, I’ll digress and tell you Clint Richardson is a master of the occult and
these kind of things, just like you guys. And what I do, I’m not so good at that, I’m not an expert of the
esoteric, if you would, but I do study the law, I work for the different agencies in the government So
that’s where I come from on there. Musically, I was recognized for holding a world record, longest opera
note. And you can listen to that in concert, and I was on Coast to Coast AM when the government
started trying to kill me on a regular basis, because I was giving out legal remedies and also off grid
technologies I do. I left the system in 2011, I asked for a sign from the universe, if you would, to stop
driving cars again, I’m Mennonite, so it’s considered a sin. But, and I rear ended a truck on the way
home from Florida, and totaled my car. So I didn’t drive for three years. My mom bought me a car in ‘14,
so I started travelling the country, visiting people who had heard me on Coast to Coast AM and other
radio shows. Who I help with Child Protective Services and other legal issues. And that’s where I’m
standing.

>>Crow: So actually Jason, I’m going to jump in here, because Jason and I just had a conversation before
we jump in here, I’ve got to ask, are the Mennonite folk mostly outside of the straw man identity, or is
this something that organizations, or I don't even know what to call it, religions like Mennonites, do they
have to deal with the same problems we do, or when they are born, do they not allow the straw man
identity to be created?

>>Stephen: Good question, and I lived with the Amish until 2014, on and off, I grew up there and hang
with them and show them technology. Keep them off grid, maybe a lot of years according to Proverbs,

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and the Bible and stuff they follow, and being Mennonite, they welcomed me into the family all the way,
and so I work up there to escape all the chaos on these beautiful farms. Well sadly they have birth
certificates, and I was educating them on this, hundreds of buggies would show up on their day off, to
listen to what I have to say, I said you all basically sold your children to the devil. Unknowingly, so the
contract is [unintelligible], it’s irrelevant. You gotta stick on contract.

>>Crow: Stephen let’s just jump straight into it. The main thrust of this show, I’m hoping, is going to be
about remedies. How do people conduct themselves? What do they do when they’re forced into
situations? Right before we began recording, you pointed out where you want to start. Let’s start there,
I’ll hand it off to you in a second. But I’m also very interested in covering what does an individual do
when they find themselves in front of the magistrate? But let's back up and let you kick off where you
think we should.

>>Stephen: Well, the Amish people were very upset obviously by this information, this birth certificate
basically signed them over to maritime, and you know, and they were actually acting against their own
child, and declaring themselves incompetent. But they wanted the remedy, I gave it to them in like five
minutes. And then they were happy, it works, okay? So, because they have to have the consent of the
governed, okay, so you go into the court, you’re in the law of the land. Or the gallery. Where all the
people are sitting on the other side of the wooden fence, or the bar. Okay, and they call your name.
Your artifice, okay, you’ll notice every gravestone since the 1870s is all capital letters. Okay, so you’re a
dead man. They call that name, and you stand up, I’m here for that matter, but I never authorized the
name you call out to use in commerce with the corporate state of Indiana or add your state. Now you
can add whatever you want from here, I’m going to give you a lot of stuff, okay, but here is what I do. Is
there a verified claim before this common law court, is everyone sworn in? Because nobody ever swears
in, because they are article one, interior courts, under military law jurisdiction. And they’re using
presumptions against you, and because your ignorance of the law, under the ignorance cannon, we’ll
get into cannon and all that later, but they’re presuming you're an enemy of the state. They’re
presuming you’re a military officer, or you’re an attorney at law. Or you shouldn't be in there. In that
court. So, you need to rebut these presumptions. If you’re arrested or whatever happens, because
things happen, we can get arrested. You need to immediately file a counterclaim, nor would the
charges, act like you're not hearing anything like when you watch Charlie Brown, and the teacher would
talk, and all the kids will here is wa wa wa, wa wa wa. That’s what you want to do, ignore them. Stay on
point.

>>Crow: Are you saying that the first step is to ask, is everyone sworn in? Is that the starting point?

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>>Stephen: Yeah, I’m here for that matter. I never authorized a name you called out to be used in
commerce, with the corporate state of New Mexico. Is there a verified claim in this common court, is
everyone sworn in? You just checkmated them. You don't need to go touch your hand on the bible or go
any further. Because they’re done. Now they will use intimidation tactics to get you to approach the
podium for the defendant. Okay, say well, are you requiring me to do this? To participate? I’ll approach
under threat, duress, and coercion. The judge will say, duly noted.

>>Jason: So let’s be really specific here, Stephen, when you’re walking into a court, this is under
maritime admiralty law, right off the bat. This is what you’re saying, right?

>>Stephen: Yep. You got it.

>>Jason: Okay, so a lot of the information that’s already been floating around out there, that part of it is
accurate, you’re saying?

>>Stephen: Mm Hm. Admiralty as police officers under the Lieber Code. Section One Article 11. Under
drafted by, Lieber under Lincoln, General, his name is slipping my mind but it's Lieber, you can look him
up, I’ll give you all my resources, and Section One, Article 11 says that these officers, judges, and
magistrates should be treated harshly for doing anything in contrivance for their own personal gain,
against the people. That’s us. Okay? So they’re approaching your home, they come into your home, we
got a complaint you’re growing marijuana in the backyard. Okay, I plead guilty. [laughter] You see what
I’m saying? Because these guys are full of crap. I mean I’m just saying, maybe that’s true, but what
you’re going to ask these police officers, can I see the complaint? Well, no, I need to see the complaint,
and who bonded it. Everything must be bonded. Not a general bond, one for indemnity.

>>Jason: What does that mean? Let’s explain that, Stephen.

>>Stephen: If I’m going to put a claim on you, and try to sue you in civil court, because I’m walking
around the administrative remedy and judicial setting, I have to put up a bond. In case I lose, your
damages are covered. They’re in violation of due process clause. Fifth amendment. So we have to put a
bond up. Nothing is ever bonded. They say, well we do have a warrant. They pull it out of their bullet
proof vests, say well let me see it. This is not signed by the clerk of the court. There’s no bond attached
to it. It’s irrelevant.

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>>Crow: That’s going to beg the question, so there you are talking to a police officer. And you look at the
paperwork, and it’s not right. What do you do if you point out, there’s no bond here, this isn’t correct
and the police still continue down the same path?

>>Stephen: Oh, no, they won't. They’ll do their little chicken dance and get on their little shoulder
harness radio, receiver, and they’ll be dancing in a circle, and I would say get the district attorney on the
phone right now and I want your supervisor out here. Right now. You’re committing a war crime. You’re
here using threat, intimidation and harassment against a civilian population in violation of 18 US Code
241242. That’s a 15 year felony. Most of them will get off your property immediately when you say that.
Because they’re scared to death. That's the MO of cops. They're afraid of the actual law. And if you
speak relevantly and competently, in a prosecutorial manner, they can sense it. I’m respectful though.
I’m very respectful. The guy’s aren’t going to love you and everything, but you're not going by due
process here. Motion to clause should be, this will be thrown out, you’ll never hold a job in officialdom
ever again.

>>Jason: Now of course things aren’t always so easy where you can speak with them. What if it’s more
of a violent altercation where they’re coming in, kicking your door down and saying, alright, we know
you’re growing plants, you're under arrest, they throw you up against the wall and drag you off. No
matter what you’re saying.

>>Stephen: You’re fine. You’re going to be hurt. Our egos, and so forth, and it’s scary, it’s like you’ve
been raped. And absolutely the same thing. I mean, psychologically on a Freudian level, you’ve been
raped. It’s very painful. That’s why they do it that way. So, when you’re thrown before the magistrate,
one called the arraignment process, you’re in a process completely unconstitutional because the
witnesses never appear, and the whole thing is a fraud. Where’s the jury? Who bonded this action? The
state board has a bond attached to it. You’ll be out of there in a day or two. And they’ll never bother you
again.

>>Crow: Stephen. I want you to go one more time, clearly and concisely, so you’ve been arrested, they
kicked your door down, they drug you off, threw you in jail, now you’re in front of the magistrate. Very
clearly and concisely, explain what, how a person can conduct themself at that point.

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>>Stephen: Okay. And I’ve done this, actually. And shackled and everything, and you know, I think you
have me in the wrong court. Is this a district court of the United States? That’s what the constitution
calls for. But they are going under the United States District Court. Small US. And none of them are
legitimate. Everything we see, every officer of the courts, open bond at this point. You’ve kidnapped the
wrong man. Of the Miller Family Association. Where’s the witnesses? Where’s the jury? And they’ll be
dragging you out by now. They’ll get you the hell out of there within 24 hours. And they’ll make all these
bogus extraneous court dates and you know, and then they’ll just drop it. They’re psychopaths. They
can’t admit that they are wrong. So be kind and talk slowly to them. They want respect and love. They
didn’t get it as a child, so that’s why they run the uniform, or the black robe of the brotherhood of
Saturnian occult.

>>Jason: There you go.

>>Stephen: It’s a brotherhood of Saturn. The black robe.

>>Crow: Bingo.

>>Jason: Now, would you say, in your honest opinion that the nice person in the black Saturnian robe
actually knows what’s going on, and of course is never going to let you in on the secret until you start
challenging it like you’re describing?

>>Stephen: You’re exactly right. I’ve listened to you guys, on this stuff, and you’re like among the top.
Okay, so I’m not, it’s not my profession. It’s yours. But you’re really good, and I know that’s why I listen,
but most of them don't know, it depends on the size of their bond. What a lot of judges or magistrates
are appointed by an actual elected official, but I can destroy that because they’re not going by any of the
election laws or rules. Most of them do not know.

>>Crow: So Stephen, how, see this is where I get confused. If you know, we’ve all seen the clips of things
like the natural man, getting basically a judge to give up. The magistrate gives up, bows, leaves the
room, where he commandeers the court, but how is it possible that a judge could be sitting up there,
and you go in and state the things you’ve informed us to state, and that judge not be aware that
truthfully, admiralty law is what’s being exercised in there. I don't get that. Isn’t it a foregone conclusion
that they have to understand that?

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>>Stephen: Well, you would think so, but these people, I’m digressing back to their childhood. They
were raised by predominantly liberal, bait worshipping, you know, order followers that the state is god.
So they’re reading article three, okay, well wait a minute, we were given all this authority over you, and
you’re saying the 11th amendment took it off of us, and it did. So they committed fraud on the people,
not the persons or individuals, okay, and they said well we’re going to use Title 50, United States Code,
under the United States Federal Law, and say there’s a state of emergency, and now we have all these
special rights that we weren’t born with. Okay, that’s what they’re doing. And they really believe they
have this special right because we’re under a state of emergency, we’re under martial rule. So that’s
why all the cops have guns. And tasers, and chemical weapons, because we’re under martial rule, and
oh my god, that’s a whole other hour, you know?

>>Jason: When would that have started? The martial rule?

>>Stephen: Oh, under Lincoln.

>>Jason: So this started as a result of the Civil War?

>>Stephen: Yeah, and then they try to convince the slaves that the 14th amendment applied to the
people. No, you gave up all your rights, and we’ve given you benefits and privileges, like owning a gun,
now we’re just taking that privilege away slowly and incrementally. No. The 14th amendment only
applies to government officials. Period. Because they waived their immunity under the foreign sovereign
immunities act, became offshore statute merchants, and all this applies nothing to us. You owe them
nothing. Somebody’s made a claim against you, they’re the ones, it’s just like if you claim Jesus existed,
the burden of proof is on you. No difference. And they know this, the cannon law, the Pope, the only
people that have jurisdiction in this country, for criminal law, is the vicar general, or, so if you go into
court, and you say you know, you can do it a hundred different ways, because they're so full of holes, it’s
like saying, you know Israel, god’s chosen people. The only thing holy in Israel, is their stories. Jordan
Maxwell stole that from me, okay? [laughter] And so, because I studied this stuff incessantly okay, it’s all
full of holes, so as long as you have some kind of an argument, it’s less than two paragraphs, in court,
when you’re in the law of the land there, the gallery, you stay in the common law. But once you go into
like five paragraphs, you’re getting extraneous and superfluous, and you're going to find, one of their
rules, that permits them to throw out what you’re saying, as extraneous and unintelligible.

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>>Jason: Alright, so let’s get back to when you’re standing in court, and you’re standing in front of the
judge, what’s the first thing you should do?

>>Stephen: You know when you’re sitting out there, in those wooden seats next to your fellow patriots,
and they’re all being charged with complete BS victimless statute crimes, okay, that’s the law of the
land, or the gallery, okay? Behind the bar. When they call your name, you stand up, I’m here for that,
and you know, now you always say the same thing, if it’s child support, once they force your to come to
the podium under threat, duress and coercion, you say well I’ll approach under threat, duress and
coercion, then you ask for your property to be restored. Use the word child. Don't use the word
children, that’s maritime, they own the children. You don't own your property. And this even goes into
the 14th Amendment, and of course the constitution, the 4th amendment etc. They won’t deprive you
of life, liberty or property without due process. Due process is an important word, you’ll ever use when
you're filing a notice or a requirement under the, you know, it looks like a motion but it’s not. Due
process, so you’re saying I want my property restored. And they will. They freak out. When you know
this stuff. Now if you’re there for a criminal charge, your neighbor said oh he got weed in his yard, and
the cops showed up and you know, they won’t arrest you though, if you say the right stuff. They’re
listening. They know your IQ. They’re not very smart, but they’re trained how to know smart people.
And when you, if you talk in a prosecutorial manner, and ignore whatever the complaint is, they’re going
to get the hell out of your faces as quick as possible.

>>Jason: Have you seen that happen?

>>Stephen: Oh yeah, all the time. Anybody that I teach, and you’ve got to do it with fervency. If you act
like, I just learned this on YouTube, they’re going to walk right over you and taze you and it’s very scary.

>>Crow: Stephen. I want to get on the record, clearly and concisely, as an episode that’s about remedy
here. Let’s pick up right when a person is standing there at the wooden fence, in front of the magistrate,
first time, let’s very concisely break down how they can conduct themselves to avoid all this nonsense?

>>Stephen: Okay. And I’m going to give you the supposition that you’re pulled over, you’ve got your
children in the car, you happen to have a half a joint in the ashtray, and maybe some vicodin in your
purse that’s your sister’s or whatever okay, and you're not aware enough or studied enough to keep
them out of your private conveyance. Okay, which is consumer goods. They have no authority over. But
let’s just get all past that, say you’ve messed up, you’re freed, now get in your car, they’re stealing your
kids, okay, and now you’re in jail, okay, like an hour later, and then they’re going to take you into

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arraignment, which is completely unconstitutional, remember that, I’ll give you the ins and outs later.
So, when you're going to that arraignment, and you’re all tied up in shackles, okay like the slave you are,
most people are, you’re going to say I never authorized the name. You’ve brought me in here. To be
used in commerce. With the corporate state of whatever state you’re in.

>>Crow: Stephen. Hold on there. That is the very first words out of your mouth. Is I never authorized you
to use the name you’re using for commerce in whatever state you’re in.

>>Stephen: Absolutely.

>>Crow: Okay.

>>Stephen: Is there a verified claim, before this court? Now let me explain what a verified claim is. It
falls under the constitution that no warrant shall be issued, okay, without proper oath and affirmation
and a probable cause affidavit. And law, and judges call an affidavit a jurat certificate. J-U-R-A-T, okay J
as in John, jurat certificate. And they use Sir William Blackstone for a legitimate jurat, which means there
must be two third party witnesses, they must go by the rule of law we’ve all agreed on. Which is okay, if
I’ve harmed somebody, they need to go before a competent officer under oath or affirmation, okay, and
take their verbal testimony and put it into writing. It’s called an affidavit. But there must be two third
party witnesses. Otherwise it’s a hearsay. It’s all hearsay and conjecture. That’s why you’re doing the
things I’m telling you in court. You stand up, I’m here for that matter, you’re already in leg shackles, and
they say are you Stephen John Miller? Sir, now be kind to them, these are mental cases. They have guns.
Sir, I’m here for that matter, okay, under force and duress and threat, I never authorized the name
you’re using, using commerce of the corporate state of New Mexico. I presume you have a verified
claim, which is called a valid cause of action, which means that there’s a human being that can show
he’s had harm, loss, damage or injury, a violation of his rights, and you can prove the court has redress
ability, I’m using that, is because these courts are inferior, and a lot of them don't have redress ability,
and they don't, they never have had criminal jurisdiction. It doesn’t exist anywhere. Only the church. A
vicar general or the ordinary can hear any criminal claims. That’s kind of scary if you think about that
statement. That’s a fact.

>>Jason: Now the reason why you’re doing this in the first place, is because the entity that they are
charging, is the straw man. Correct? Like, they’re trying to do this from using maritime admiralty law,
and they’re coming after your straw man. Not you, the person. Is that why you’re going after this in the
first place, like just so we’re really clear, because there’s so much obfuscation and confusion about how

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this really works. The reason why we have you on is to just be very, very specific and try our absolute
best to define all of this stuff, so people hear this and be like, okay this is starting to finally make
freaking sense.

>>Stephen: Yeah. Exactly. The situation, I’m going to keep repeating the same things about court. So it
will get in everybody’s brain, and of course they can rewind it, or you know download it to their tablet,
like I do, because the most important thing is, to understand where all this started, and Abraham Lincoln
and the civil war, freeing the slaves, which was a joke, when they've enslaved everybody under the 14th
amendment. It is based on the presumption that you’re under licensure. That’s why they give us all
licenses. Okay, because we’re doing business with the belligerent ones, and that makes us under this
code, and enemy of the state. Because there was never a ceasefire declared between the unions and
the federal government. We’re still at war.

>>Crow: Well, Stephen. Let me ask you this. We see these clips on YouTube of people being pulled over
by a police officer when they’re driving their car. Many of them refused to open their window and say
this is not a car, this is not a vehicle. This is my personal conveyance. Can you address how an individual
should conduct themselves, when they find themselves in the position of having been pulled over...

>>Stephen: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>>Crow: By a so-called peace officer.

>>Stephen: [laughter] Yeah, exactly. No. Leave your window up. Don't, unless you got weed in the car,
okay, or something they can smell, that’s why they did this, because if you have both windows down, it
will waft out into their nostrils and they’ll say well now I have probable cause. And then the canine will
show up, but that’s all irrelevant, once you learn what I’m trying to show here. But still, yeah, if you got
weed in the car, yeah, only crack the window like four inches, and say hi, I’m only traveling, am I free to
go now or are you detaining me? And stick on that. And they’ll either turn you loose, or they’re going to
say get out of the car. And if they do it, do it. Get out of the car. It’s under duress, threat, and coercion,
it’s a 15 year felony what you’re doing, and I will teach you how to exact that charge on these A-holes.

>>Crow: Alright, so then I’m assuming if you get pulled out of the car, and you end up in shackles, you’ve
kind of already outlined what happens by the time you make it to the magistrate. But one more time,

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reiterate, I’m driving in my car, you get pulled over and you’re just going to state that you’re traveling,
and you’re going to ask the officer, am I free to go, or are you detaining me?

>>Stephen: Right. Because it’s a custodial arrest, which is unlawful. Here's the juxtaposition okay,
they’re sitting on the side of the road stalking you, making legal determinations when they don't have a
bar card. So right there, that’s a violation of fiduciary duties, that’s the position on page 563, definition
of a trustee, so you’ve got them right there, it will be motion to quash, violation of fiduciary duty, how
did you make a legal determination that I’m in commercial traffic, 18 US Code, Subsection 31, definition
of a motor vehicle, this isn’t a motor vehicle. Why did you declare an emergency on me in violation of
the motor vehicle code, emergency motor vehicle code, you can only declare an emergency if it is a
bona fide emergency. My tail light is out, that’s not a bona fide emergency to terrorize the public. That’s
a felony. You’re taking a paycheck under oath. These are facts.

>>Jason: Now most police aren’t going to understand this in my opinion. I very much doubt that they’re
going to understand what exactly you’re on about, and they’re probably going to take it as far as they
can. Especially taking you under arrest.

>>Stephen: Well, I would disagree. At this point, because I’ve been doing it myself on the internet, on
radio for a better part of ten years. So, they know it. This goes into psychological warfare and Freudian
psychology. You’re dealing with children with guns. They’re a four year old with a gun, mommy says it’s
okay, get hired as a police officer to violate other people’s rights. As soon as you start speaking law in a
calm manner, you’re calm, your hands are visible, you’re giving them whatever paperwork you have
available, I do, now they’re not fixing to shoot you. You want to survive? You’re at war. So you want to,
oh hi sir, you know, I don't tag my motorcycles. I get pulled over all the time. I hand them my insurance
and my state ID. I say oh here, this belongs to you. I tell him that immediately. They said, yeah, you’re
right. They know what’s going on, dude. So listen, I don't want any trouble with you. I’m just traveling.
You know, I need to be on my way, are you detaining me? I’m really just nice about it, and I win every
time. I had two tickets, one in Washington state, illegal camping, or crap, and then one, in Peoria,
Illinois, my tail headlight was out, and it was a sheriff, and I just told him hey, you know, I study law, I
don't want any trouble with you, and you know, and let me see if I can fix your light. Just because of
what I said. And I was calm, I didn’t, you know I turned on all the lights in the car, and I was kind and
friendly, that’s how you win against Nazis. You don't get an attitude. They got all the power. You gotta
be asymmetrical. They’re ready for a head on collision, dude. They’ll win. They’re on a freight train,
you’re in a Volkswagen Jetta. Okay, you gotta be asymmetrical, or going on the path, take the path of
least resistance. You’ll win every time.

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>>Jason: Okay, so getting back to court, the worst happens, they take you away and all that sort of
thing. So when you’re standing before the judge, and you said the first thing to bring up is everyone
sworn in?

>>Stephen: Yeah.

>>Jason: What does that mean though?

>>Stephen: When you stand up, they call it the corporate artifice on your license, Stephen John Miller,
you know and they’re looking all around, right, it’s all intimidation. You stand up, you’re all hello, I’m
here for that matter, I never authorized the name you call it using commerce in the corporate state of
New Mexico, I’m presuming there’s a verified claim for the court has everybody been sworn in? I use
that term of law, you turn that court into a common law court of record. By doing that.

>>Jason: Right. What does it mean when you’re asking them, is everyone sworn in? Define that.

>>Stephen: Yeah. These are inferior courts, created time to time by congress. But they were hijacked by
the federal government, because they took federal funding. So they lost their citizenship and lost their
authority and lost their immunity. So that’s who you’re dealing with. So that’s why when you say the
things I’m telling you to say, you’re separating yourself from the corporate artifice, known as the US
government, which is all District of Columbia criminals. You don't have any representation there.
[laughter] None. Okay, you're just, you’re just born in America, and all you know is you’re traveling, and
is everybody sworn in? Now they’re going to hum and haw and make all kinds of noise. You’ve never
seen society so angry. Because you just checkmated them in their own corporate artifice. They have the
burden of proof to prove jurisdiction over you. You know they have jurisdiction in the court. That’s their
court. But can they hear the subject matter brought before the court, which is by a guy posing as a
police officer. He’s not a police officer. None of these guys are. Not the city municipal cops, not the state
cops, not even the sheriff. They’re not appointed, they’re not elected, they’re not commissioned. So you
put that in your file that your rights were violated. The man approached me, Officer Jones, posing as a
police officer, in violation of law, compared to put CF-that’s Latin for compare to, compared to your own
codes, basically you’re not using them in violation of the law. Because they’re all copyrighted to Canada.
Okay, compared to 18 US Code, 912-913, that’s the end of your case. Because their witness was just
impeached.

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>>Crow: Let me cut in here, Stephen.

>>Stephen: Yeah.

>>Crow: So you’re saying, when you make the statement in front of the magistrate that you’ve
reiterated a couple times here and then you ask, is everyone sworn in, what you’re in essence doing is
clicking that court over from trying to push their admiralty law over to a common law situation. Am I
getting that right?

>>Stephen: Yep. Exactly correct, dude. You’ve just said, I’m a man, and I was going to go a little further
in this, but you nail it right on the head. To go a little further saying I require leave of court. And that
means I demand to leave this court so I can properly answer, because you're being arrested out of your
car, you know the average person that might happen to. So this is what you need, a leave of court. Walk
outside the court, and you write three sentences, and the whole thing is over with. You want to be able
to answer the court, but you don't want to answer the court verbally ever. Because the rules of ore
tenus, O-R-E, tenus, T-E-N-U-S, everything you say is presumed the accurate true and correct, they can
find you in contempt and perjury. So you want to go outside the court and write a simple letter. That’s
all a motion is, that you're just writing a letter of the court saying hi, my rights have been violated, you
can do it just like this in pencil, if you get a pencil and paper, okay the witnesses aren’t here, there’s no
jury, you just list about ten things they’re doing wrong, which takes me three minutes. Right two copies,
if you have the will if all, if you’re not ambushed in the prosecution. These are little secrets. And then
they can listen to that, now they’re going to reschedule and say well, I say, you need to ROR me. Okay,
released on my own recognizance. My word is my bond. And they’ll go torment you for a day or two,
then they’ll turn you loose. And then they’ll just dismiss the case.

>>Crow: So wait a minute here. Let me make sure I’ve got this straight. What you’re saying is once you
have asked if everyone’s sworn in, and you have apparently stopped the admiralty law push, clicked the
court over to common law, you actually leave the premises, go outside the premises, write the note,
then how does that note…

>>Stephen: They’ll send you down the hall, with a police officer, one of their peon bailiff, and you would
just write it in handwriting. Only a living man can file a counterclaim.

>>Crow: So how does that get back into the…

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>>Stephen: No, the bailiff will take it from you, make sure the judge gets that, and make sure the
prosecutor gets to read it as well.

>>Crow: And by their own rules. The bailiff has to accept that, and has to admit it, right?

>>Stephen: Absolutely. You’re protected under their own administrative see here’s the whole thing
Crow and Jason, they’re going around, their administrative process that would free all the people
immediately. That’s why it’s there. And you’re going to write to a judicial setting. So you're sending a
militarized course in violation of posse comitatus, your house, or your private conveyance, and they’re
dragging you over to court, and in any due process, you’ve already won. Just learn the due process,
write it in a letter, that’s a definition of a motion, you do it typing, or that’s part of the, that only applies
to government officials. So, that’s why they’ll fill it out as unintelligible, because you don't have the
permission to write motions.

>>Crow: Let me ask you this, Stephen.

>>Stephen: Sorry.

>>Crow: There's been a lot of talk about this idea. And I’d like to get your take on it. Is it true that the
prosecutor in these courts is required to bring a checkbook with him? Have you ever heard anything
about this?

>>Stephen: Yeah. That’s why they want you to take responsibility for the name. So you can put his check
in the wastebasket.

>>Crow: So explain what happens, explain what happens when that checkbook has to get used. Explain
to the people…

>>Stephen: Okay.

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>>Crow: Why the prosecutor brought the checkbook, and what happens when the prosecutor loses.

>>Stephen: Well whenever you were arrested, that created what’s called a bid bond. And until you take
responsibility for the violation of statute, the prosecutor who is pursuing you, bringing forth the charge
has to cover anything that you deny. So he’s got his checkbook out that he does have a bond, for
fidelity.com, the bond would be there that would cover that check, you know in the invent that you
don't come back after them. If you sue them, then he’s 100% liable. So that’s why you act, and none of
this stuff is bonded. I’m not talking about bonded generally, I mean a bond for indemnity for this exact
action. And that’s how it works. [laughter] And boy they freak, and you know all that stuff. And they get
you the hell out of there, dude. When you sign this civil interaction, and we’ll just turn the whole thing
loose, they’ll do so under duress. So sign it. Get the hell out of there. Tie the four corners rule, put four
little corners around where you sign, which is a famous UCC 107 1308, and that’s the end of it. Because
you’re not taking responsibility, you know, without prejudice, that’s what the judges sign. I don't know
anything on this paper. I’m not taking responsibility, [laughter] so I’m signing it like this. That’s what
you’re going to sign. You’re doing the same, they’re just using their own stuff against them. Wait a
minute, you know you’re violating this, that, and this and the other thing, that you're officer is not even
an officer, do you see what I’m saying? These are all called defects. If you find the defects within the
charge, you’ll win every time. And talk as little as possible. I’m here for that matter, never authorized the
name you call out to be in the corporate state of Rhode Island, you know, I’m sorry, New York. Is there a
verified claim before the court? Is everybody sworn in? And now listen to the choking and coughing,
glasses falling off, and they’re going to defer and distract and just ignore them. Then say well we’re
going to reschedule this, Mr. Crow. For December 29th, and blah blah blah. Say, denied. Am I free to go
now, or are you forcing me to participate? People will listen back to this dude, and they’ll get it all in one
concise argument. I hope. And that’s, that’s really it. Just, now you stay on that from now on, they’re
violating your rights, ad nauseum. You can put in your writing, I’m going to file a federal tort action, on
all administrative officers involved understand form, SS-95. To the sergeant of arms, and you go through
what’s called in government, wholly control. You contact the mayor, attorney general, etc, okay, the
governor, and then they all already jacked and then that goes to the sergeant of arms, he says okay,
their immunity is gone, you can have their house. That’s what SS-95 is. And it scares the hell out of
them, and so, we’ve been winning in court to the point where the judges have told the police officers,
put all your property in somebody else’s name. Immediately. Because we’re winning on that level. So, it
feels good, dude. I’m an old guy, I’m not much older than you, Crow, but I’m not in as good of health as
you. I’ve had cancer and all kinds of problems, and I didn’t want to die without seeing the people, my
brothers and sisters having some kind of win against these monsters.

>>Crow: Before I hand it back to Jason, I would estimate that maybe you should take an interest in the
Gerson Method. A proven cure for cancer. But anyhow, back over to you, Jason.

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>>Jason: Now, Stephen when you’re saying all this, what you’re doing is you’re coming after them in a
civil way, because you’re signing, going after their property and everything like that, is that because
they’re violating that as a free man, and you’re now coming after them financially because they have
completely violated you and you’re not, you are deliberately divorcing yourself from the maritime
system.

>>Stephen: Right, and I am bringing them in under criminal charges under the common law. Which the
constitution covers that very eloquently. No, they’re going down with criminal charges as well. See they
lost their immunity under the foreign sovereign immunities act, and they sign up with the United
Nations. They waive their immunity. As being a foreign agent. So they are definitely under the criminal
code. Not us. Them. That’s why 18 US Code, 241242, using intimidation, threats, and to exact statutes
on us, and if you read 241242, these are massive felonies. Well how do you get to these guys? The clerk
of the court, she’s trained to protect these monsters. And she doesn’t know it, or he, they don't realize
they are the supreme court officer in these inferior courts. So here’s something very important. So when
you file against these monsters, okay and you get your notary, to notarize your paperwork, that's half
proof you need to go to the clerk of the court. She’s the boss of all the notaries. Say ma’am, would you
please verify if this notary is legitimate? And here’s my paperwork. Now she’s going to stamp your
paperwork with a really big stamp. That’s full proof. Now you got a supreme court officer as a witness.
Any living man can file documents.

>>Crow: Let me ask you, Stephen, you’re saying that after you’ve done these things, these people are
basically in violation of the law. How come they never end up getting busted? We get busted all the
time. We get drug in before the magistrate all the time. We lose you know, the average person you ever
meet, could lose a civil case, a criminal case, any number of cases that are brought. So I’ve got to ask,
you walk in, you get yourself out from under the admiralty law push, over into a common law situation
than in fact, isn’t that a demonstration that not only have your rights been violated but the laws, the
true laws of the land have been broken, and if that is correct, how come we never see any of these
supposed officers of the court, paying the price?

>>Stephen: Well, you're not going to see it. And I’ll give you some good news. I’m answering the last
question first. We’re putting them in prison every day. Police and judges. Google it. Police sentenced to,
judge sentenced to. We’re winning every day. The system is collapsing. We know exactly what we’re
doing and we’re winning every day on a massive scale. Whole police forces are standing down at this
point. Google it, and look. I hate to use the word Google, Google is like Satan, but you know, used in
quick, or DuckDuckGo or something, just look. We’re winning every day. But they’re not going to put this

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on TV. Because the gollum troglodyte husk, rule, you know they call them American citizens nowadays,
they don't want them to learn this their slavery is coming to an end.

>>Crow: If say, I will take the time to look it up, so a judge is sentenced...

>>Stephen: Okay.

>>Crow: What’s he being sentenced under? Is it common law? Is he being sentenced under the
admiralty law he was trying to cage you with?

>>Stephen: No, he’s not, no dude, he’s under federal law. Federal law gives sentences. It’s 15 years for
these things they’re doing to us. But putting a false claim on me, you’re trying to represent me in a
judicial capacity, you don't have any right to do that. It’s showing me that in your own rules, it doesn’t
exist. We’ve totally hijacked our government I’m sorry, go ahead.

>>Crow: So, wait a minute. So, federal law, that’s a form of admiralty law, right?

>>Stephen: Yeah.

>>Crow: Okay.

>>Jason: And what they’re being prosecuted for is assuming you’re free status, they’re trying to take
control of that, because what they’re really trying to do is trick you into accepting the charge against the
straw man, correct?

>>Stephen: Right. What they’re doing, they’re using threats, coercion and harassment, intimidation
under color of law, in violation of 18 US Federal code, federal law, 241242, and impersonating an officer,
that means an officer of the court, it would certainly mean they're administrative, they’re not. Because
they’re not following election rules. If you look at the oath and bond, and that’s my next stop, they
demand they come to the podium, I say I’ll do so under threat, duress and coercion. And I’ll need to see

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every oath and bond of every officer of this court at this point, and your tax ID number and your
employee ID number, etc. Your articles of incorporation, this is the stuff they don't want to hear. It
scares them to death because everything they’ve got as far as paperwork, is completely contrived.
[laughter]. This isn’t legitimate, your stamp is not legitimate, this warrant is not signed by the clerk of
the court, there’s no oath or affirmation with a probably cause affidavit, which goes on and on. I went to
the sheriff’s office in Lake County, Missouri to get 13 children, and I know that’s number they’re going to
all call out the trolls, there’s 13 children released from the sheriff’s office that were taken at gunpoint,
and it was five minutes to lay the law and scare them to death. I said if you do this again, I’m bringing a
US Marshal Service down here, and I will get a warrant from the attorney general of your state, because
I have valid cause of action here that you're stealing children that need due process of law. You need to
mention the word due process, a chill goes up their spine because that’s real simple. Due bloody
process. The right to face your accusers, the constitution says the right to a speedy trial, and then it has
a comma, and of course by jury shall not be infringed. They try and go around the comma, saying you
want to waive your jury trial? You can’t waive a right. So if there’s no jury there, you’ve won. And that’s
why the arraignment process is BS, because there’s never a jury there or witnesses. That’s where you’ve
just won. It’s fine you’re in a uniform and shackles. I’ve been there a few times. I’ve just won. I say
where is the jury, where are the witnesses, I never authorized this. [laughter] That’s how much power
you have. The most people go in there like, devolved slaves and say yes I think I understand the charge
but they try to explain themselves, and you just explain yourself in a probation at least, you're the one in
charge. But they don't want you to know that.

>>Jason: So what you’re trying to do is make sure that you are not accepting responsibility of the straw
man they are charging, is that what it comes down to? When they’re dragging you in there, what they’re
trying to do is get you to accept what they’re saying to you, and therefore they can treat you, the
physical person as the paper person. Correct?

>>Stephen: Yeah, it's called being a surety. Okay, in Proverbs, you know prohibits this. It says be not a
surety for a stranger, lest he shall smart for it. So they are violating their own cannon. They are under
the 1611 King James Bible, of course in 1998, Herbert Walker Bush signed noahide law into law. Under
public law 10. So we are now under noahide law. So, any thought of Jesus Christ is an executable
offense. That’s in law. How come nobody knows this but a very few?

>>Crow: Let me jump in here, Stephen, we’re getting close to the top of the house.

>>Stephen: Okay.

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>>Crow: I want to address some basic things here.

>>Stephen: Okay.

>>Crow: So, you know you’re talking about bringing the marshal, US Marshal to do something about
these people who are operating under the color of law, and doing things to human beings out in society.
Why is it allowed to happen? As soon as four or five judges go to jail, wouldn’t it be pretty clear that
every other judge sitting on a bench is under threat, that there is a good chance that enough people are
hearing the things being said, like we’re doing here, and they’ll walk into a courtroom and do a similar
thing, wouldn’t every judge in the land, if these things were accurate, start to feel a bit under threat?
And for that matter, why does the US Marshal sit around and just do nothing and watch children be
taken? These are some of the questions that I think about as I’m listening.

>>Stephen: Well I can answer these no problem. Number one, when it goes to judges, there’s hundreds
put in jail every year. Okay, hundreds are put in prison or jail or removed from office every year, because
of people like yourselves and myself. So we’re winning. But we need to ramp it up. As far as the US
Marshals, that’s a corporate service, they’re basically like militia, they fall under militia, so if you call me,
like I did in Rhode Island, right actually where you’re at, I called these monsters, who sold these retarded
people’s child, because they have mental problems. So I called the US Attorney General, in your state,
they’re in Rhode Island, Sheriff Mack knows about it because we got in a fight over it. We’re not friends
anymore. And I said I want a warrant right now, faxed to the US Marshal service in Rhode Island, we’re
waiting. He says for what? I said for stealing children without any due process. This is kidnapping. And
you guys can’t make a dragnet, that drags innocent people into your system. That’s the problem. You
make a dragnet, you end up catching the dolphins and the whales too. I understand, let me call you right
back. Believe me, they work for you. The problem is that the average person does not have the
wherewithal or gumption or intestinal fortitude to go after these bastards. He was ready to issue that
warrant. He goes, well, no I got the whole story, and they want to talk to you, CPS, so he put a CPS agent
on with me, on the phone, he says well sir, they really have problems, and we will, I said I want to know
every second, that child, where he’s at, and every detail. So I protected the kid that way. I said well
you’re lucky I’m 2,000 miles away. That’s what I told him.

>>Crow: Let me ask you this very specifically. So I’m drug before the magistrate. I walk in there, I say, I
didn’t give anyone permission to use that name, I’m here for this matter, I gave no permission for that
name to be used in the corporate state of wherever the heck I am, is everyone sworn in?

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>>Stephen: Right.

>>Crow: And I walk from that situation. So let me ask you. Has that judge committed a crime against
me? Has that bailiff…

>>Stephen: Absolutely, Crow. And you file through the United Nations, they have a complaint form, you
file through the federal tort action under standard form 95, it’s called the Tar Baby Doctrine, okay?

>>Crow: Stephen. Cut right there. I’m sorry.

>>Stephen: Okay, I’m sorry.

>>Crow: We run hour one on a radio show, so I have to keep it to an hour.

>>Stephen: Okay.

>>Crow: We’re going to remember where you left off on the Tar Baby, we’re going to bring hour one to
a close. Jason, we’re so close I don't have time to have you add anything in here. I’m going to bring hour
one to a close, we’re going to pick up hour two right at the Tar Baby idea. So that does bring…

>>Stephen: Okay.

>>Crow: Episode 111, the first hour to a close. At the posting of this episode there will be 111 hours of
free content at Crrow777radio.com. No login is required. If you choose to become a member, you are in
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>>Crow: Alright man, welcome back to hour two of episode 111, Crrow777 Radio, the podcast, Stephen
is back with me, Jason is back with me, welcome Jason.

>>Jason: Hello again, Crow. Time to do this.

>>Crow: Yeah, I want to state for the membership, before we start in with Stephen again, all these ideas
expressed, you don't accept them, you don't believe them, you don't do anything more than understand
that information has been proffered. You need to confirm the validity of everything we have said. And
Stephen, I’m going to get you back in right now, but I want to ask, before I start up with the Tar Baby
idea, Stepen is there a place that we can direct people to go that can learn more about what we’re
talking about here?

>>Stephen: The White House Law Club. And oh lord, what’s his name, it will come to me. I apologize. Go
ahead.

>>Crow: Okay. Well while you’re thinking about it, I cut you off short to get our hour one to fit in the
radio format that it needs to be. Let’s pick up on the Tar Baby idea. I cut you off right in the middle of
you beginning to express that.

>>Stephen: No, that’s fine, a lot of us are offered a public defender, when we're arrested for any charge.
And I accept that public defender under article six, with your right to have council. Assistance of counsel.
So I accept them as, how you will be my assistant. And I give him a list of all the crimes committed
against me, and my rights, and I make him turn evidence on the magistrate or these crazy judges and a
prosecutor, and immediately they will come to you and make an offer to get you the hell out of there.
Because they know you’re going to contact the next highest judge. Pretty soon your state level. Pretty
soon your federal level. And they don't want to touch the Tar Baby. And knock all the bowling pins down
behind the whole, they don't want any part of it. They knock all those guys down, just to keep their
hands clean. That’s what Clinton does. That’s what George Herbert Walker Bush does. But I’m telling
you, for good people, okay, not psychopathic child rapists, these monsters. But they know the system.
So if you try to bring charges to Hillary Clinton, she’s going to file with a higher judge, and filing judges
how her rights are being violated. It ties the whole, that’s why they haven’t arrested her yet. She knows
the system.

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>>Jason: So basically what you’re doing is you’re accepting the public defender, but when they accuse
you of being a ward of the state at that point, you’re immediately turning the tables on it and just using
that person to help flip the switch on the court, changing it from maritime to civil, correct?

>>Stephen: Well, dude you’re not a ward of a state. I know corporate jurista conden, and others say this,
their first duty is the court. Anybody who is a defendant, or you know a client, is a person of sound
mind. I get it. But, when you tell the appointed officers over that trial that day, that’s what it is, it’s not
really anything but a trial, I’m sorry to tell you that. You see, whatever you don't tell them, when you’re
taken to the magistrate, or these appointed fake judges under arraignment, whatever you don't say that
day, nothing will be taken into consideration next time. And they know it. So you better shoot it out, at
the arraignment here and all of it. It’s better to say a little too much and be extraneous, than not saying
enough. Because it’s called chaos doctrine. You’re interjecting so much chaos, this guy is not an officer.
He’s impersonating, he’s guilty of falsity, see where I’m going with? You’re not a good customer. They
want you to get the hell out of there, dude. It’s like, anything else we do, I have a yard sale, somebody
bitches at me, that .22 rifle ain't more than 30 dollars, and they’re causing all kinds of chaos chasing
people, I say well here, you can just have the thing. [laughter] Because I don't want any trouble. The
same thing you’re doing here, Freudian psychology. They’re too much trouble. They don't want it dude,
they want to go home to their dogs and their children and, just like we do. Only difference is, they’re
sociopaths. [laughter]

>>Jason: So they’re realizing at this point that they’re not going to be able to extract money out of you.
Is that basically what it comes down to?

>>Stephen: That’s exactly right. You’re going to fight.

>>Jason: And you actually have a clue on how to do so.

>>Stephen: Exactly. Standard Form 95, tort claim.

>>Jason: And again, this all comes down, again, to that it’s commercial. Because we’re talking about
money, right?

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>>Stephen: Right, the criminal comes in under their own federal law. Because federal law prohibits them
from using firearms on a civilian population. That’s a war crime. So when they approach you at your
house, and they show up with all these guns, that’s a war crime. You stick on that. Now you’re going to
prosecute them. Never admit to being a defendant you come counterclaim it. The file, immediately for
declaratory release on status but do it as a notice or a requirement.

>>Crow: How is that done? How do you quit being the defendant and flip the table?

>>Stephen: In your jail cell, as the trustee for a paper and pencil to write a letter to the judge. Dear sir. I,
the man, Stephen of the Miller family had my rights violated. I’m being held under weapon possession
IN REM, see I’m doing it like a lawyer though. And I’ll be out of there in five minutes. So, yeah, email me,
because it would be so much easier to send people, like I’ll send them to Jason, Crow, then they can
forward them to whoever, but I don't want to take up the whole show trying to explain a piece of paper
that you’re not going to remember.

>>Crow: Okay. So let me ask you this. I’ve seen other people who have begun to show that every, almost
every single police station you can point to has a duns number, which means they're a corporate entity.
But my main thing that I would like to address with you, if you’ve heard any of this, is that when you get
pulled over and you get a ticket, say, in your car, there are people out there claiming that that one ticket
generates an enormous amount of revenue when it goes through their system in a normal way. Can you
address that? And can you also, do you know who is getting that money in the end? When you get fined
in some way.

>>Stephen: Yeah, I do.

>>Crow: Okay, go ahead.

>>Stephen: Well, the Department of Motor Vehicles was supposed to have 70 billion dollars at this
point, allocated for equipment. Also our police officers. Their training, they’re for understanding remedy
under doctrine exhaustion, which means you tell them hey, I’m just traveling. I’m an American national,
okay thanks. [laughter] But they’re not doing that. All that money was stolen. So now they’re figuring all
of this out. So big mouths like me aren't afraid of them. So that’s why you’re having problems. See the
video license, Crow, so you can do business with the belligerent ones, but it’s not really a license. If you
look at your license in quotes, it says endorsements, none. Unless you’re like me and you have a CDL.

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You know you’re endorsed to drive this truck or that truck or that tractor or whatever. So it’s not really a
license. It’s a state ID card, it belongs to them, and that’s your landed, gifted estate by the papacy to do
business. This does not give them jurisdiction, so you understand there is a court and you call them out.
Is everybody sworn in? Because nobody is taking responsibility. Otherwise, they can just put your ass in
jail, find you in contempt, they say oh well, Mr. Miller, you know I’m going to find you in contempt if you
don't answer the question. Your honor, civil contempt or criminal contempt? Civil contempt. That’s their
true jurisdiction right? I’m all, well I need to see the order that brings forth the order. Now you know
you’re on a level even above him. So, it’s knowledge. Because there must be a violated court order in
order to find you in contempt. So, you can’t be found in contempt for exercising your right. Until you’re
walking out on this bastard. If he goes, well you say objection, I acknowledge that counsel is to be found
nowhere in the official role of attorneys, in the state records. Who is he? Well overruled, you say
exceptions. That’s how you overrule a judge. That means it stays on the record. He says overruled, say
exceptions, you just overruled his ass. Knowing this stuff is important, you know?

>>Crow: So let me ask you, Stephen, to pull it back around. There’s an enormous amount of money that
is taken from average people in this world. From traffic tickets to arrest, to court fees, to everything you
could point to.

>>Stephen: I’m sorry.

>>Crow: Alright, who is getting that money?

>>Stephen: Okay, the Chris account, in Texas, there’s a huge account. Billions of dollars of funds go into,
to give these judges these huge salaries and bonuses on every felony they prosecute. They get a bonus.
So they have a vested interest in harming you. Which goes into of course due process, because there’s a
conflict. You can always bring this stuff in. You can bring in the Sherman. These are conflict of interest
issues, which means this is the Sherman Antitrust Laws that dissolves Microsoft, [laughter] You see
where we’re going with this. Because Microsoft says no we got our own way of arguing with the judge
over antitrust. And, or that it accompanies, they say no, tell them you’re just free enterprise. So they
just free enterprise everyone. Microsoft was dissolved. Sherman Antitrust Laws, these are powerful
laws. You use against these bastards in court. These are federal prison sentences. The Lincoln Law,
another one you know, the average people, Crow, as you know, are dumbed down to the point of
fluoridated organisms. And you try to mention this stuff to them, they look at you like you’re from
another planet or something.

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>>Crow: Well I would submit, yeah I would submit Stephen, that there are more and more every day
who are becoming aware. I just think that we don't control the information. And part of that lack of
control, doesn’t allow us to know. But let’s get right into the meat and potatoes here, in the last
episode, we were talking about getting out from under the straw man. In that episode, it’s almost more
of a spiritual way of literally getting back to some kind of a spiritual grounding and basically leaving
citizenship behind. I want your take. I think that we outlined a little bit that in your opinion you don't kill
the straw man. There’s no way out from under it. But you can live a life free of the things that would be
imposed on you by the straw man. So let’s start here. Do you think that killing the straw man is the way
to go?

>>Stephen: Well, that’s a personal thing. If that’s what you want to do, I wholly support it. Get a US
national passport, check off American National. Instead of US citizen. That’s for a 100 something dollars.
And if you want to live on some nice organic farms, or work farms like me, you’re welcome here. So,
yeah, that opportunity is here. You don't need any ID, you know we all share whatever money comes in,
so that’s up to you. Go to the Southwest Sufi Community in New Mexico. 1,500 acres. You’re welcome
there. Three good meals a day, work part time, whatever. You know? With our own water, and there’s
children welcome, pets, so yeah, you can do that. If you want to keep your straw man, because you still
have children and you have to work, then, keep it. Just learn that they have to have permission to
tender or administrate any property associated with the Gobert Artifice known as, all capital letter, a
corporate name isn’t, a human don't have names. That’s McDonald’s, IBM, Wal-Mart, those are names.
You have a title, Stephen, okay or you know, Crrow Tripplehorn, ect. And family association. Or clan, or
whatever. They don't want to hear that. You know the constitution strictly talks about common law and
civil and if you read article three, dude, you see that they’re just total dictators when the men came
around and put the brakes on them. Article three, they want jurisdiction over everybody thing, okay and
no rights, and they come along and say, you know you guys can’t do any of that stuff. [laughter]

>>Crow: So…

>>Stephen: You know, the argument, you know…

>>Crow: Stephen, at the risk of wandering off point here, if someone wanted to kill their strawman, how
would they do it?

>>Stephen: The US passport, and check American National, and you just learn the laws. You get dragged
into one of their military tribunals, say I have permission to do this, I’m an American National. Do you

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have any evidence to the contrary? Because the burden of proof is on them. You said enough. They can't
get around that. I mean you file for declaratory release on your status. Only do it as a requirement. Now
it is requirement, which means demanding, declaratory release status. All handwritten. If you file it in
under one of their pieces of papers called motions, on the document, she’ll throw it out as unintelligible
and frivolous. It will say motion. Under it, put in the form of, notice semicolon, requirement. That way
they know you’re just using their paper which actually, you are required to do this. If the police show up
at your house, they’re required to show you their driver’s license, and give you their personal
information. Stay on that. If they ever show up at hour house.

>>Jason: There's an important point about the police. That I wanted to get to. You skipped saying that
they aren’t official, that they’re not acting the way they should be. Who are the police acting for? What
are they as an entity? Are they acting as a military force?

>>Stephen: They’re private contractors.

>>Crow: For who?

>>Stephen: Because they have no constitutional, well, they have now congressional mandate or
constitutional authority. Whatsoever. For IMF. International Monetary Fund. So, everything was
hijacked in the fascism, really in 1871, it went into corporate. And that’s why the 11th amendment was
ratified. They’re foreign agents. So it says you know, you’re a foreign state, Crow, Jason, they can’t do
business with foreign states. So, you’re just travelling. Because you’re a foreign state. And you’re not
harming nobody. You have no evidence of harm, loss, damage, or injury or nothing. So, stick on that. My
heart breaks for the younger generation. I know Crow is almost my age. You can’t do all that stuff,
[laughter] in a short life. Crow has been around a while. Even the military before a lot of you guys were
born, you know? Jason is younger, and he’s like one of the smartest people I’ve ever heard, and
Saturnian, like with the judges. It’s the brotherhood of Saturn. In the black robes. Satan fools all
mankind. That’s why you don't give them your consent. [laughter] It’s really basic. In the occult that’s
really what’s going on in there. They’re absorbing the seven laws of noahide. So he use a [unintelligible],
you know look what was right onto you with that stuff, the bible, that’s exactly correct. George Bush,
public law 10, I believe, you know, a couple congressmen, behind closed doors, [laughter] this is
noahide, and that’s why department of homeland security enact Israeli Mossad. They’re going to treat
us like the Palestinians as soon as they bloody can. And that’s very frightening.

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>>Jason: So what you were getting at when we were discussing the concept of the straw man. Killing it
off as Clint was suggesting, means he is going to terminate that corporate identity. That corporation is
disbanded. By arranging a death certificate and therefore the social security number gets retired, a
death certificate officially is issued, and that social security number gets recycled and the process starts
all over again with whomever that number gets tied to next. What you are saying, is you don't
necessarily have to go to that kind of extreme as far as the paperwork is concerned. If you understand
the system correctly, you can use it more so in your favor, than allowing them to use it against you.
Where they’re making you take responsibility for the straw man, as opposed to the fact that you’re
using the straw man so that you can exist in society, and be able to do normal things such as go to the
supermarket and buy something with a credit card. You’re controlling the straw man, as opposed to
letting it control you by the system. Am I getting this right?

>>Stephen: Yeah. You’re the beneficiary, and executor of the estate known as you know, all capital
letter, landed, gifted, estate. Okay, by the Roman, Rome never fell. They’re here. So that’s your gift. But
in their own rules, they have to get permission, you gotta redeem your consent. Anything past 15
statutes at large, which is permanent evidence of all laws created by congress, is irrelevant. So all the
statutes, codes, municipal ordinances are irrelevant. They do not apply to you, they’re totally
administrative, so you see the forest service drive by, they don't have any jurisdiction to ever approach
anybody camping. Only their own entities. Because there’s a huge government, of a 30 million people.
That’s who it applies to. Not us. If you fall for the BS dude that you're an enemy of the state, that you’re
a slave and that stuff, that’s how they’re getting their jurisdiction, by people raising their right hand, and
saying yeah, I swear to tell the whole truth, blah, blah, blah. And put their hand on the bible, don't do it.
You’ll never make it that far if you’re, you know, know what you’re doing.

>>Crow: Let me cut in here, Stephen. Jason and I…

>>Stephen: Oh, the straw man, no, keep the straw man if you want. If you don't want to, then don't.
That’s a spiritual, I keep it, just because I’m old and I’ve had health problems, and you can’t go to Wal-
Mart and get money grams for donations, you can’t do anything without one. That’s just me. But I’m not
saying it's right for everybody at all.

>>Crow: Stephen, let me ask you, if you find yourself in a courtroom, in a so-called courtroom, and your
desire is not to participate and yet you don't have the right vocabulary, you don't have the right
knowledge base, can you still be coerced into being forced into the admiralty law position? I mean, if
you just sat there, not knowing exactly what to say, or how to proceed, but your intent was to break
free, could they in fact bully you right back into where you don't want to be?

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>>Stephen: An easy answer, no. I’ll give you the proper status. Because if you don't have that, or you
know, you’re in big trouble. Okay, because this again goes into chaos doctrine, or tar baby, so you want
to go in in pauperis. In pauperis status means you’re a pauper. You don't understand their legalese.
Okay? And the statute, and you don't want to consent to anything. At the same point. So, you require
me to ask you questions, or requiring me to participate. And they’ll throw it out.

>>Crow: What do you say? So there you are, and you want to use the pauper defense, or whatever it
would properly be called, what do you actually say when you’re standing there in front of the
magistrate?

>>Stephen: Well, I would still memorize the corporate, I never authorized the name you call out using, in
commerce, with whatever respective corporate state you’re from. Remember, the authority in the state
comes from New Mexico state, okay, that’s authority derived from the populace that’s called the body
politic. And you’re dealing with people from the state of, okay, which is the body corporate. So that’s
why doing a little corporate rant, I never authorized the name you call out, used in commerce in the
corporate state of Rhode Island. New York. Is there a verified claim before the court? You can say I’m
here in pauperis. I’m here in pro paupersona, I’m a man of age, I’m an inpauperis person, in pauperis.
That’s what I would say. And then say is everybody sworn in, and completely ignore them from that
point. Say the man you call up to the podium do so under threat, duress and coercion. Say I’m sorry I
can’t, you know I’ve already put an answer before the court. My paperwork and we can’t move forward
until you answer my paperwork. That’s for the declaratory release on status. Always do that. Saddam
Hussein should have done that. [laughter] Okay? So he had no lawyer. Because once you can prove that
they got the wrong status, and they’re in an inferior court, they have no redress ability. It’s over. It
doesn’t matter who you are. That’s how OJ Simpson won. Because the lawyers know what was going on,
he paid them enough money, they pulled their other hat. There was no competent witness.

>>Crow: I think we have a different point of view on those two people. In my view they would be actors.
But I’ll let you jump in, Jason.

>>Stephen: No no, you watch the play, Crow, because they did what I would do. They put Marsha Clark
up there and said, do you have a competent witness. That was the end. There was no witnesses. So if
there’s truth in what drama, no I think it’s all a fraud too.

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>>Crow: Interesting.

>>Stephen: CIA or whatever. But still, there’s important stuff to watch. You know, what they’re doing.
It’s disgusting. We know he was guilty. It’s the pope at a baseball game. Literally. Or something.

>>Jason: What would have been the point of the whole pomp and circumstance then? Why wouldn't
they have just done it right up front and got him off?

>>Stephen: Because these are very dark occultists, and they get off by telling you secrets that are
making you drag through two years of nonsense, to figure out the secret. If you’re even paying
attention. They’re giving you the remedy, almost any case. You’d have to follow the whole thing to
watch Marsha Clark destroyed by, what’s his name, the black lawyer, where’s your competent witness?
Put him on the stand. They didn’t have any. They have Mark Fuhrman, a few other people. Who are
artifice, and they were incompetent. So even though he should have been hung from the highest tree, in
my opinion. But his wife, you know she was doing evil stuff. I mean, really evil. With kids and stuff. So,
it’s one of those real wishy washy situations where like, you want to feel sorry for her, but then she’s a
criminal. So she kind of got her comeuppance in my opinion.

>>Jason: So this is that weird karma thing, that the elite are heavily involved with.

>>Stephen: Yeah, [laughter] They know what makes us tick, Jason. And their titillating the people that
really pay attention, they’re just having a blast, like putting a picture of the Disney character on Pluto.
They’re just laughing at us. It’s amazing. While we get tormented by our neighbors and our parents, and
being a flat earther, tell people you’re a flat earther and an atheist and their head will explode like a
watermelon. You know?

>>Jason: [laughter]

>>Stephen: But, it really freaks them out. They get violent on you.

>>Crow: People need to catch up, man. It’s variety.

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>>Stephen: I know…

>>Crow: That lends itself to freedom. And a big part of the big social engineering is the removal of
variety. So, you know I’ve said it a lot of times, you meet someone with a different religion, different
belief system, embrace it. It is that variety that makes people or communities very hard to control. But
Jason, where do you want to go from here?

>>Jason: I want to talk about debts. How that’s attached to the straw man, and all the the money that’s
tied in with that. I asked Clint outright at the end of the show, if there are indeed bonds and things like
that, made upon a person’s birth, and then the birth certificate is created and social security number is
attached, I looked up the bonds, based off those numbers and I did find something. And that’s as far as I
could take it. I couldn’t actually find out if those were legit, if there’s money there, I don't know how to
do that, and I would very much like to take that further. But it seems like a lot of this information that’s
out there, that they use us as cattle on the open market, basically they’re trading us and making money
off of us, off the labor that we provide. That seems to be legit, although I can’t prove it 100%. Do you
know if indeed that is accurate? And secondly, debts incurred by the straw man, for instance, credit
cards. I know that credit is not loaning money. It’s illegal for them to loan you money, like for instance, a
credit card, I take out in my name for three thousand dollars, and I’m signing off on that. That money is
generated out of nothing. Merely my signature. Because I’m authorizing it into existence, yet my straw
man is still held responsible for that debt. I was just wondering from, the information you’ve looked
into, can you explain that better than I did, or give more details on it?

>>Stephen: More details, you described it pretty eloquently. They borrowed money on behalf of the 13
colonies, and Benjamin Franklin, esquire, okay one step below knighthood. And that is what we’re still
borrowing money on. And what they did was, under maternity act, they would take that birth certificate
and they, it would be prorated on how much money you make in your life. Okay? At that time, I don't
remember the exact date, they guessed about three hundred thousand, and of course they prorate it up
every year with the national debt. So yeah. There’s absolutely a trust, and it’s based on debt you know,
on the actual land. Like Hillary Clinton, you know yellowcake uranium, to Russia, you know, and all this
money that they’ve, sold all the national parks. They now belong to China. You know, there you go.

>>Jason: So as far as debts incurred by the straw man, can you separate yourself from that? Or do you
still have to take care of the debts incurred by the straw man? Since you’re acting as the caretaker of it?

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>>Stephen: Yeah, you’re acting as an executor of the estate. No, because that would be an unlawful
contract, the elements of a contract are a legal element, and then people of legal age to contract, okay,
a lawful item, I’m sorry, and then of course consideration. And none of those things exist. In these
unilateral contracts. So you’re a contractor to department of motor vehicles. Okay, well no I’m not. Well
where’s the other signature? That's unilateral. That’s a war crime. Somebody has to take responsibility,
upon the public official that was elected. And represents you. You don't have representation. That’s why
it’s illegal. All of it.

>>Crow: I’m not sure I followed that. Jason, restate that a little more, abridge it a bit, and restate it. Just
so I’m clear.

>>Jason: Well what I’m asking is, is when you incur debts, like I used the credit card example, when you
signed your signature accepting the credit card offer, for let’s just say three thousand dollars.

>>Stephen: Okay, I got it, I’m sorry. I went over that, and I apologize. Credit cards are easy to get rid of
debt, because they’re completely unlawful. You create the credit, energetically, with your signature. So,
they did nothing. See, whenever you take somebody to court, the burden of proof is on you to prove
that they have fined you of something. Okay are they the ones that gave you property? Okay if you can’t
prove that, well they didn’t do anything. All they did was use your own signature and shuffle some
papers and take credit on the Federal Reserve. They’re probably owned by Boeing or Raytheon. As far as
your corporate name. So, all that money is created by you, make them prove the debt. Put these people
on the stand, and serve them a subpoena to the bailiff, on the stand. Make them hostile witness, and
you put them under direct examination. You can ask them whatever you want. You can destroy them.
That’s how you deal with the IRS and any of these agencies. Put them on the stand. Under direct
examination, not cross. And they’re now a hostile witness. It’s over. The judge will know immediately
what you’re doing to impeach the witness. You have cops. Get them impeached. On the stand make
them look like fools. They don't want to take that subpoena from the bailiff. That immediately makes
them hostile. So Stephen, what I’m trying to get at very specifically here, because this is one of the
things I’ve been trying to dissect myself. You are signing off, let’s use the credit card example that I
pulled up, as a free man. You’re signing off on that saying I’m authorizing the creation of this whatever,
three thousand dollars, let’s say. How does that exist legally? And that’s attached to your straw man, but
not to the free man. So how would you discharge debt if you wanted to? Or is that not possible?

>>Stephen: No, totally possible. Because they used fraud and all kinds of unlawful trips. To get you to
sign this unilateral contract, because you are being honorable, can you outpay on this, this is a good
deal, that you didn’t know that you were signing, being a party to a federal offense. So you write a letter

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to the CEO, literally, you know his little crony attorneys will read it, then soon you’re in federal court. On
this federal tort action, Standard Form 95, fraud using my signature to create credit, and claiming is
really simple.

>>Jason: Is the idea that they’re tricking you into, you think you're getting a loan, but in reality what
you’re doing is creating money out of nothing. But they don't tell you that.

>>Stephen: Right, it’s like, if I sell you seven acres, I have better, I better have seven acres to give over to
you. In order for that contract to be legitimate. Well they’re claiming to give you credit. Through these
second national bank, that’s all BS. They’re not giving you nothing. They assigning you credit of your own
clout, using your signature, to open a checking account and they have a robo-signer sign a check every
month. And they keep the balance.

>>Jason: Now wait a second. You just said something I’ve never heard anyone say before. They’re taking
money from your account, as in the bonds that are created from the social security card, and the…

>>Stephen: Yep.

>>Jason: And the birth certificate, they’re taking that money? So there is a loan going on, but it’s being
taken from the bond?

>>Stephen: Taken right from your account.

>>Jason: So it’s not new money created into the system, like fractional reserve banking, that’s a
different process. They’re actually taking it out of your bonds that they create at your birth.

>>Stephen: Yeah.

>>Jason: Or I should technically say, the bonds that are created at the assignment of the birth certificate
and social security card numbers. So there’s X amount of dollars, I’ve always wondered how much it is

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and I could never find a straight answer on that. But whatever happens to be, is this where the credit
system comes in then? Like how much they’re comfortable allotting to you for instance, you have really
good credit, so you might be able to get a $300,000 dollar house, whereas the person next to you has
crap credit, so they’re only going to authorize a $30,000 dollar house, because they want you to be able
to repay that money, because it’s technically coming from these bonds. Am I understanding this
correctly? Because this is totally new information I’m hearing right now.

>>Stephen: Yeah, well the federal reserve has very little to do with United States treasury. Okay, we buy
treasury bonds and they base a lot on the value of the dollar, based on what the bonds are worth. Okay
on the same token, US Treasury issues a bond when you’re born. And they put about a three hundred
thousand dollar value on it. And that gives them credit through the papacy and the Queen of England,
had the Queen of Netherlands. Queen Beatrix. I think her name is. Okay, that’s where the money comes
from. And they fund the international monetary fund, and they fund their military just through total fiat.
So we don't really lose anything. [laughter] You know, so we got this big scam going on, so that’s what
they’re doing to you. So they, so and then the US Treasury invests in different portfolios and that makes
your bond worth more. Okay, as time goes on. And then the Federal Reserve can borrow on your bond,
that’s why they need to arrest you and charge you with a crime, in order to tap into your bond and get
that money and pay off the debt. It’s disgusting. It’s true.

>>Jason: So would they value these things differently depending upon the stock you come from? If you
will? For instance, if you come from a Rothschild family, you’re going to be worth a hell of a lot more
value wise, in what they’re going to invest in, as opposed to John Smith who lives down the street, who
works at the butcher shop.

>>Stephen: Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. No, no doubt. Rothschild, he is the bank.

>>Jason: Mm.

>>Stephen: And we are the paupers. We’re just, we’re slaves, so let’s screen a limit out of you, it’s a
magic pinnacle. Give us your god given rights, and knowledge, and we’ll give you this magic pinnacle,
you can get rice, you know, cake and circuses. And that’s why we're screwed. [laughter] It’s all based on
debt. Yeah.

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>>Crow: Let me jump in here, Stephen, so there’s a lot of people out there who are forwarding the idea
that you can, I don't know whether the idea is to opt out of the straw man, but basically take control of
the straw man. Which is worth some form of currency. And that they can then access the currency that
was generated by the straw man. Is there any truth to that in your view?

>>Stephen: Yeah, well I’ll give you the Federal Reserve website. They’ll send you all your information.
And they’ll tell you what you have in there, and that nobody is going to take anything out yet, you
already, you gotta log into the Federal Reserve. And you can call the 800 number, and she’ll tell you how
to log into your account. There’s so far, not anybody that has been able to draw anything, you know,
fruitless.

>>Jason: That’s true, because I’ve heard people actually call, and the people at the Federal Reserve say
there are no bonds, like there’s a message, actually, if I remember correctly. I think this was about a year
or so ago, I remember people posting videos of this, that they’re just tired of people trying to do this, so
they actually put an automated message on their call system saying there are no bonds, there’s no
money for you to access, da da da da da. But you’re saying that it does indeed exist. We just don't know
the proper procedure to access it, which is what I always suspected to be honest with you. I think there’s
money there. And I think they do trade it. Because the United States did go bankrupt in 1933, and there
was some sort of total restructuring of everything. That’s when the birth certificates came in, and social
security, like that’s when a lot of stuff got solidified. So I’m just truly trying to understand how they use
this system to run a, basically defunct corporation is the way I’m understanding it. So, we act as
corporations, should be able to interact with these things if they’re created in our name, I would think,
but there must be a procedure to it that no one properly understands, but I strongly suspect if we did
figure out, you’d probably be taken out without a doubt, because they wouldn’t want people to know
how to properly access what’s probably hundreds of thousands of dollars.

>>Stephen: Yeah, more than that. But as far as that account there are people that get access, but getting
that pin number is the hard part. The Federal Reserve, they have no gold. In fact the palette of gold they
sent to Germany, as you and Crow already know, was you know, just kind of meter on it from Clinton. It
was fake. It was, whatever. Whatever metal on the periodic table. So they’ve been sending out fake gold
for a long time, so if you get millions of patriots trying to log in, and get their money out, it would
collapse, of course they’re not going to let you do that. It’s sad. I tell people, where do you think the
money comes from? Henry Ford built that huge factory in Detroit, that land belongs to the people. So in
maritime law, this applies a credit. You say okay, he’s got credulity. So you can buy this land. But you’re
not actually buying it. You know that. You’re just, you know, that’s why it’s a state of whatever. You
know, deed. It belongs to them. Who is paying for the airspace because it belongs to the people. And
the government’s only job is to protect and secure it, and if that means loaning it out on a huge amount

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of money, they’re supposed to dump that money from Henry Ford back into local economy, and they
don't. That’s why we’re all broke. They’re stealing the money, dude.

>>Crow: As a side idea, I mean basically, we’re living under the idea of taxation without representation.
Right now, aren’t we?

>>Stephen: Yep. absolutely.

>>Crow: That’s against the law isn’t it? Is there a remedy for that?

>>Stephen: Yeah. Yeah I signed up and served in the US military and so did you, and US military is an
artifice. That’s an artifice. The constitution, that’s what the American Army, the Lieber code, drafted by
Francis Lieber under Lincoln. Talks about the American Army, and the militia. US Corporate Military, we
all fly that flag, that’s an article four. Battleflag. Or title four. Title four. So that’s why we are in a
constant state of war. We’re flying the wrong flag. That’s not the American Flag. Pull up the American
Civil Flag. It’s on Kennedy’s grave. I mean, when you fly that, they can’t come on your property without a
warrant. That’s how the cops are coming on your property without a warrant. Because you got the
wrong flag. You have a military flag. Only for battleships and military installations. That’s why all our
rights are gone. Everybody is flying that flag. In this trailer park is. Or a campground. I’m in the
campground. They have a military flag flying.

>>Crow: There’s a lot of people that aren’t flying any flag at all. But to get back to the idea that started
this, is right now, presumably, I’m living under a condition of taxation without representation, which
presumably is breaking a law somewhere in this world. So I would ask again, is there a remedy for that.
Is there some course of action a person could take that would get them out of taxes for the rest of their
life. Seeing as how they're not being represented.

>>Stephen: Stop filing, Crow, because you’re signing a document that says, I’m signing this under paying
the penalty of perjury. And all this other stuff. Why would you want to sign something like that? Stop.
And the first year you stop, file for, you file to the IRS for, it’s skipping my mind right now. Sorry, I don't
have, any IRS code in my brain at the moment. But we were talking about something else. Well, how to
tell how much tax you owe. I think it’s under 6203. Anyway, you file for that, file for that assessment.
The first year you don't sign off on it, whatever you're filing under, from private contractor, etc, 1099 up,
okay they won't answer you, because you’re not corporate. So you save that, send that certified mail for

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assessment, and they won’t answer you. Through certified mail, if it ever goes to court, you’re red
flagged, you show up, say where is the jury, there’s no controversy here. I’ve been asking for an
assessment for four years. I said you have firsthand knowledge of me owing this debt, and the only
answer they can give is no. That’s, they did their OJ Simpson. That’s what Marcia Clark got stung on. She
had firsthand knowledge of OJ doing this. Where’s your witness, that was the end. Same thing. Do that
with arrest, CPS, you have a right to challenge your witnesses. Do you have firsthand knowledge of any
of this? Who are you? [laughter] That’s really how you win, dude. But we live in a dumbed down society
where people can’t comprehend that we have such power.

>>Jason: Is this how people, certain people I should say, have won mortgage cases where they’ve taken
it to court, proven that there’s just nothing but fraud going on, and that they didn’t loan you money.

>>Stephan: Yeah, mortgage cases are easy, Jason. All you gotta do is, give the bank thirty days to appear
with an unbroken chain of title, file for quiet title action, on your institution, that gives them thirty days
to appear with unbroken chain of title. They don't have it. They sold it to all these insurance companies
as derivative. And it’s put in your petition that you either want your mortgage cut by 2/3rds, or cut
completely due to the fraud they created on your family. The judge will give you one or the other.
Usually he’ll cut your mortgage down to peanuts. We’re winning every day. On these quiet title actions.

>>Jason: And what about property taxes in regards to any property you might have?

>>Stephen: Just don't pay them.

>>Jason: But what’s stops them from taking the property.

>>Stephen: A possession 1910ths of the law, they show up at your gate, or your house, you’re in control.
Where’s your bonded warrant? And you stay on that. Get your supervisor. Who bonded this action? You
don't talk about what the charge is, you stay on the law, and they’ll leave your property and not bother
anymore.

>>Jason: But what’s stopping them from taking it though? By force?

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>>Crow: Yeah, what would prevent them from taking it?

>>Stephen: You can’t take it by force, without a legitimate capias warrant. You can’t obtain a capias
warrant, because no legitimate person is going to sign it. It’s not bonded. That’s the end of the case.
They’ll say okay, not a good customer.

>>Crow: So let me cut in here, Stephen, so all this time, we’ve been seeing YouTube videos and news
reports from all over the world, where they’re kicking, throwing, literally getting a cop to throw people
into the street, while they take possession of the house, that’s all stagecraft?

>>Stephen: That was Great Britain. And the majority in Canada. In America it’s not quite that easy.

>>Crow: I see.

>>Stephen: Especially now. You need to say hey, where’s your bonded paperwork? They can do
whatever they want that day. But since you didn’t give them jurisdiction, and they didn’t put up a bond,
you’ll be back in your house, and they’ll leave you alone.

>>Crow: What if they do…

>>Stephen: All the victims I see dude, they don't know what’s going on within these administrative
tribunals.

>>Crow: What would prevent them from just posting a bond and going and doing what they want?

>>Stephen: You can’t?

>>Crow: Why?

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>>Stephen: Because they know you’re going to win. They know you're going to go to a higher court, and
if you’re that smart, they know you know the doctrine of exhaustion and chaos, and a tar baby. They
know you’re going to go to the highest levels, and they’ll be knocked down. You can only do what you
have jurisdiction to do. And if they, and if they don't have jurisdiction, that means they’re doing it with
no consent of the governed. Most people would just raise their hands like the Jews did in ‘39, and walk
out with a bayonet in the back. I’m not going to do that. They know the difference.

>>Jason: Since we’re getting close to the end of the show here, I’d like to review the concepts of court
cases, and hear about some of your successes. Especially like the first one you did that actually got
discharged right away. Using the methods you’ve described. Can you go into that? Talk about what this
situation was and how you did it, how long it took you, I’d love to hear the judges reaction and just all of
that, you know?

>>Stephen: Yeah, my, well, there’s, I’ve got an hour and twenty minutes on my memory stick. I’ll email
you the mp3 when I get time. But it’s Mike Rotta, he’s like, he’s in Montana, like the mountain man case,
same people, same friends, and I got called out there to speak to the Mormons and the Latter Day
Saints, they’re in parts of the federal government. I don't believe in a religion, but I’ll help them. I spoke
out there, and a guy paid me 100 dollars for information on how to handle an outstanding warrant. I
told him and he didn’t listen. Now I get back to Michigan that fall, he calls me and says oh man, I got
arrested on that warrant, blah blah blah. Please call me, and I ignored him for the longest time. So I
finally called him, and he said, you gotta come here and I’ll pay you, and so he paid me a lot of money. I
went there, and so okay, file for declaratory released on your status, hand write it. Also put a regular
clerk on there, okay and then when you get called on the court, stay on this, talk soft, be gentle, and like
a little gentlemen, they won’t harm you. Well I got it on tape, you can hear it. He just slaughters these
people, okay, and they dropped all the charges, he was facing five and a half years. They reduced it to
seat belt charge. They dropped it to a cell phone charge. And then they threw that out, like two weeks
later. That’s all on tape. So, it’s just real simple. It wasn’t complicated, no arguments about I’m a
sovereign, because sovereigns don't exist. It’s a total, the government promulgates these things as soon
as they take off. You’re not sovereign unless you own your land under allodial title. If you don't own
your land, and rule over other people, like the Queen, or like etc, the federal government, you’re not
sovereign. That’s how they claim sovereignty. They own the land. So, it’s sad. Because these are really
nice people, and they mean well. And I go in and I rescue these sovereignty, two years in court, issues,
go accept the public defender. And then give them this letter, and that will be the end of it, and it was a
week later, that guy was a free man, dude. Two years, he was facing fifteen years in prison for running a
state cop off the road.

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>>Jason: So all this sovereign citizen stuff, American patriot mythology, all that, it’s literally disinfo put
out there so that people basically will be screwing themselves?

>>Stephen: Absolutely. Look at what’s his name, the Canadian dude, who does all those seminars, and
blah blah blah, every last little detail of maritime. Oh lord. I talked to him too, and tried to help him. He’s
got the nicest wife.

>>Jason: Winston? Is that the name?

>>Stephen: No, no. He’s pretty good too, if you want to learn all that stuff. No, he’s from Canada and
you know, he’s in prison again, Clint or Cliff, Cliff can’t remember his name. I’ll send it to you dude.

>>Jason: Cliff High?

>>Stephen: No, no. I know him too. He’s in Oregon. This guy is big time famous. Canadian. He’s got
videos of himself with the cops and everything. If I tell you his name, you’d remember it instantly. He’s
that big. But when he got thrown into court, he didn’t even know what to say. I listened to it. He acts
like he wasn’t hurting himself, and it just totally blew my mind. And he took no control of it, he just said,
I’m a free spirit or something. And they said okay, well tell us more when you get out of prison you
know, and it’s sad. His name will come to me, I apologize.

>>Jason: Well basically what it’s coming down to, he just didn’t do anything right. He believed, to put it
bluntly, he bought the bullshit, and he paid the price for it.

>>Stephen: Yeah. You gotta understand somewhat of their rules. If you’re going in there in pauperis and
[unintelligible] okay, you just write, all a motion is to the court is a letter. So you’re writing a letter, but
you're doing it in the form of notice, or requirement. My rights were violated by this man, posing as a
cop, and I can send you like three paragraphs. That’s all you really need. Now you’ve injected so much
problems for them, now you’re a counter claim, you’re not a defendant, so you changed your status,
and then at the same time you’re filing for declaratory release on your status. And in court, that’s
checkmate. They can’t admit what your status is. They have to answer you. So you put up, answer me
before this court. If not, we can’t move forward. Okay we’re going to reschedule this for December 9th,

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and then they’ll just, they’ll just miss it. You take a few weeks. You know, they’re sociopaths. They can't
admit they’re wrong.

>>Crow: We’re pretty close to the top of the hour here, so I’m going to start to wrap it up. Do you want
to have anything else to add in, Jason, before we begin to wind up here?

>>Jason: Stephen, are you doing this, I don't want to say for a living, but you're doing this to assist
people in court, out of the goodness of your heart, or are you doing it….

>>Stephen: Yeah, I take donations.

>>Jason: You take donations.

>>Stephen: I don't get very many. Yeah. I don't get very many. I have a thing, but there’s no money on it,
you’ll see that, nobody has ever donated anything. Some people donate sometimes at Wal-Mart,
actually on the phone helping, and that's cool. As far as my, it’s forward slash Asia Steve, the Asia, I like
dogs, I’ve been depressed, asia steve, it’s not PayPal, it’s not patreon, it’s the other one, one of the older
ones. I helped sheriff mack, who had a heart attack to raise 50 million dollars. It’s that one. [laughter] I
don't know.

>>Crow: Like GoFundMe? Or something like that?

>>Stephen: Yeah, GoFundMe, yep, that’s it dude. GoFundMe.com/SteveAsia. My dog. One word.
Steveasia. And we never get anything, dude, and I live very humbly, I ride a Chinese motor scooter, and
you know, I bugged out New Mexico, and I help the local people. And I farm and stuff out here.

>>Jason: So you’re trying to live a natural life, I would say, right?

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>>Stephen: As much as I can, because you know I’m not young and I smoke, and the spraying of
chemtrails all the time. It’s just a matter of time, dude. [laughter] So I’m helping wherever I can. Tell
them whatever I can tell them before I drop dead.

>>Crow: I would point out to you Stephen, the Gerson method uses the life essence in plants to help
people with similar problems. You might want to look into it, but yes, the clock is ticking on all of us. I’m
going to wrap it up. Sometimes these conversations are not easy when we try to get in what we’re going
to do here, is we’re going to post this, Jason and I will be able to take correspondence, direct people as
we can, but again, people need a basic education if you’re going to implement these ideas. Jason and I
have heard this, and researched this enough, to understand there is a commonality to all the things that
we’ve been covering. In other words, there’s a basis here. But it does not excuse a person from
educating themself to understand to at least a certain degree, what they are doing if they ever find
themself in front of the magistrate and begin to implement these ideas. At any rate, that does bring
hour two of episode 111 to a close. I hope to see you all back next week. There it is, man. Cheers.

Okay, so I wanted to do a wrap up on episode 111 here. We’ve now talked to a couple people back to
back about the straw man identity. Jason and I don't feel like we’re quite there yet. We’ve gotten a lot
of good information and it’s tough to get through some of this episode, we were talking on a cell phone
to New Mexico on Skype, and it made communication difficult, as we kept stepping on each other. But
nonetheless, we’d like to go out and find another supposed expert in the field, of the straw man ID and
get more information. There are some concise ideas in this episode on how to conduct yourself, if you’re
pulled in front of that priest of Saturn the magi, the magistrate, what do you do when you’re in that
position. If you listen carefully, there are basic foundational ideas in this episode which are not mutually
exclusive. We’ve heard these ideas expressed before in different ways, there is a basis. If we go back to
Clint’s episode, which was the last one, I almost view that as a more spiritual approach. I’m not talking
about religiosity, but a spiritual living human being who chooses not to participate in fictions, then we
get up to this episode, it’s a little bit more about a person existing in this fictitious world we live, but
how do we get along? Now do you prevent yourself from being abused by the fictitious systems.
Nonetheless, as I stated, we want to find a bit more information on this and present it out, and
hopefully we can add a little bit more value. But I’ve said it a couple times. People need to understand
what they’re doing if they find their self in a legal situation. Don't just act because you heard something
on a podcast, or you’ve read something on a blog. I can vouch that the ideas laid down in the last couple
of episodes are verbatim reiterated over and over and over in similar but slightly different ways, that
there is a basis for these ideas. But, you must understand what you are doing in these positions. In this
episode, I ask, if you get in front of the magistrate and you make it perfectly clear that you’re not sure
what to say, but you do not want to participate, can you still get railroaded? I’m not satisfied that I got
the question answered because I kind of suspect that you can. If you do not understand how to conduct
yourself, and what language to use, I think you in fact could be bullied or coerced into a situation you
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for episode 111. We’ll see you all next week. There it is, man. Cheers. Alright, Jason. I wanted to end the
second hour here with membership a little bit early, because we got a couple things to talk about. One
of the things we’re going to address is what’s about to happen with the website, which is an absolute
investment in the subscribers and the people who have taken the time to invest in the website so that
we can have a place to go for free speech, and much of what I’m about to outline about the website is
directly related to protecting our free speech. But let’s take a minute to sum up. We’ve done two
episodes on the admiralty law, straw man idea. I kind of feel like there’s more to know here. I don't
know where you're at.

>>Jason: Well first of all, let’s welcome everyone to outro number two. And yeah, I totally feel like
there’s a lot more going on than we are aware of. It doesn’t seem like anybody’s got the complete
picture yet. However, I think a lot of these researchers have taken the right steps to unraveling the great
mystery that is the straw man identity. There's absolutely something to this, there’s no denying that at
this point I think that’s the first thing we could say and agree upon, right?

>>Crow: Well I would go further than that Jason, I would say that everything I have researched, and the
people that we’ve talked to, and the two people that we’ve interviewed for shows, are all saying
versions of the same thing. From my point of view, what Clint Richardson brought, was almost like a
spiritual way at going at this. Where a human being that is truly concerned with spiritual concerns, and
doesn’t want any part of fictions that are false, Clint delineated that very well. When we get up to
Stephen, we’re looking at a person who has gone at, how does a person exist in all these fictions, yet
implement things so that we’re not so abused by legal fictions. What would you say?

>>Jason: That’s a good way of looking at it. Clint is going at it in a way that he wants to absolutely
remove the individual connection to the straw man. Where as Stephen is saying, no you don't have to
do that. You can actually take control of the situation for yourself. You just have to know the right things
to say. Now obviously I haven’t seen any direct proof of how to do that, we just have what Stephen has
told us. And we’d have to do some research to see if any of the people he says he’s helped, have actually
come through the other side of that black hole of the court system. And that’s what worries me. I don't
trust that they would even follow their own rules in the court.

>>Crow: Yeah, I mean I’m right there with you. I mentioned earlier that I’m not at all convinced that if
you went into a courtroom and made it very clear to the magistrate that you want no participation in
this legal fiction, but you didn’t understand how to conduct yourself, that you wouldn’t be railroaded
into the place you don't want to be. But let’s do this, Jason. Let's make a commitment to the
membership. I want to get at least one more person in the door, to cover this from yet a third angle.

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And more than that, I would like to keep your eyes open for people who are legitimate, who have
maybe taken steps further in the real world. Actually implemented some of this. So what do you think
about that?

>>Jason: I think that’s a brilliant idea. Now we did extend the invitation to Clint Richardson to join us as
a regular member on the forum, so hopefully he does that, and I would love to start regular discussions
on the forum with Clint since he is the most knowledgeable person I know of as far as this sort of
information is concerned. So we’ll see what happens. And let’s just put out the general invitation to our
membership. Any of you out there know more than we do? Do you have information that we don't?
Let’s hear about it, and let’s try and take this to another level.

>>Crow: Right. And I’ll say for the membership, we’re, Jason and I are very careful of who we have on.
We’ve made some steps that maybe we didn’t need to make in the past. So we try to vet very carefully.
So if you put suggestions in, just understand that they have to go through a process. It’s, part of it is just
ensuring that they can speak well for two hours because truthfully, if someone doesn't speak well, no
one is going to listen to a two hour show. But anyhow, Jason, I think that’s enough on the kind of legal
stuff, and not only that, I guess we should tip our hat about what the next episode is going to be, right?
The next episode we’re going to go at some of the acceptable timelines of how we got things like
common law, natural law, what other, you know where they come from, how did they get to where they
are even maybe some admiralty law. But, are you ready to shift over and talk a little bit about the
upgrades that the website is going to get?

>>Jason: Yeah, let’s let everybody know what we’re really doing here.

>>Crow: Okay, I’m choosing my words very carefully. Because I don't want to tip my hand. I don't want
to publicly acknowledge all the things that I’m doing for obvious reasons. Sometime Sunday night, if
people come to the website they may see an image and what I’ve done, is I’ve put up a Crow logo, and
I’ve said hey man, everything is cool, we’re not hacked. We’re upgrading the site. If you have any
questions, and here’s my email. I’m not sure exactly how long the site is going to be down. It may just be
a couple hours. It’s not down, actually, it’s just an image serving. Because of what we’re doing. We are
buffing out security. I’m going to have a full time security person. There are other things that I’m doing
that I won't talk about, but I will say I’m pulling us out from under European Union, that unelected body
that is taking over the internet with their data collection guidelines. I’m pulling us as much as I can, out
from under that. A lot of things on the site, I’ve known for a long time, need improvement. And part of it
was, when we implemented more security, even the little comment sections on the website got to be a
drag, because you couldn’t respond directly to the person. That was directly a result of what we had to

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do to keep CPU usage down on the server. And implement the security we were implementing. All of
that is going to be fixed over time. Not only that, we’re going to be putting in a new player, a new audio
player, and all these other things that I don't really need to delineate that will make the site better. On
top of that, sometime 60% of the usage of this website is by hand held, or mobile devices. We are going
to streamline load times, we’re going to go in and do everything to get the load time up, in among the
things we are doing, we should have zero problems with maxing out CPUs. Can you think of anything,
Jason? I feel like I’m forgetting something. But, I know I haven’t outlined everything totally to you, but
do you think there is anything that I sidestepped there?

>>Jason: Well the big thing is that we’re getting out from EU guidelines. Or more like dictatorship.

>>Crow: Right, that is the big thing, and it’s not easy. In this world, what’s happened is the shield of
corporation has been used to abridge free speech. Almost every law that you’ll ever read talks about
supposed governments not being allowed to do this, which is why corporations are doing it. They’re
exempt from most of the laws we’ve ever seen written. So the shield of corporation has now been used
by an unelected body, to dictate and collect data in your face, admitting for the first time, very openly,
that we’re collecting it all, but by the way, we’re notifying you, and the EU is trying to put lipstick on a
pig by saying previously, you didn’t know it was going on, and it was hard for your to understand the
contracts you had entered into, so we’re going to streamline all this for your benefit. The bottom, the
bottom of that line there, that the last tittle on that document is this. The European Union is trumping
all else and putting forward how data will be collected and became the main purveyor of the rules and
guidelines that goes around that. For a site like mine, I was flat out told, if I have one person who comes
and signs up, and listens to this podcast, that lives in a European Union state, then I’m subject to these
rules. I beg to differ. And so yes, Jason that is a big part of what we’re doing here, is shifting in a way
that gets us out at least for now, from under this nonsense.

>>Jason: And the big thing we want to tell everybody is, we’re doing this for your benefit. We want to
ensure that we are around for as long as we can be. Because with the things that are being put in place,
there’s already problems going on that Crow generally doesn’t talk about. But hopefully this will
alleviate a lot of the behind the scenes issues. And hopefully prevent anything bad happening in the
future.

>>Crow: Right. This is all queuing up to go somewhere. There will come a time when anyone who wants
to speak up, against the things that we see, that are just blatantly ridiculous in this world, they’re going
to try to silence them. The data collection is going to help them do this. Not that I can stop data
collection, but some of the things we’re doing now push this off. I, since I put this podcast together, I

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have resisted raising the fees, the five dollars a month to become a member, and the reason is, is
because I feel what we’re doing here is important. We’re trying to give a community of people options
about the way they can think about this world. And if they see value, they can change their mind. In my
view, that is real progress. Many people changing their mind will change a world. There’s nothing more
powerful than an idea. But having said that, the cost of what I’m, undergoing here, and believe me, I
timed it just to the book on alchemy. I went over all this with Jason. This, for all intents and purposes,
everything about this podcast is aligned with the natural energies that would be said to be reflected in
the idea of Jupiter. Positive things. Jovial things. Good things. Things that can go out in the light of day.
Not things that are represented by Saturn that hide in the shadows and are restrictive. We’ve done this
at this time of year in the spring for a reason. And so I’m throwing quite a bit of resources to get all this
going into the future, and I want everyone to be aware, if you go to the website, Sunday night, or maybe
into Monday, there will be a short period of time when an image will serve. What we’re doing is a
transfer of sorts, that I won’t outline here. You can go there, and just hit refresh on your browser. And
when it’s all done, everything will be seamless. And the site will be far more hmm, how can I put it?
Secure and user friendly and mobile friendly, and fewer glitches. How’s that, Jason?

>>Jason: That sounds about right. I guess that’s enough for us to really paint a broad picture, but an
accurate one. And you have our word that we are committed to continuing what we do in the best way
we possibly can. And this is a huge measure we’re taking to ensure of that.

>>Crow: One last thing. There is absolutely zero data collected by this website. The only thing that is
collected, fairly, is a username and a password. That’s the only thing that the database on the site has to
remember to allow you to login. All transactions are handled by PayPal, even if you use a credit card, it’s
a PayPal subsidiary. So it’s nearly impossible for any of that to ever be compromised. But you know, just
to top it off, we’re serious about this. And one of the things you’ll see in the near future when all this is
done, and implemented, I hope we’re going to be live 100% live by Monday or Tuesday, is you’re going
to see all my gmail accounts go away. And this is all a push to protect what we’re doing here, to add
privacy to everyone who comes here, and the last thing I will say, to members, is just, remember when
you login, you gotta use your email. I know it says username. But that’s another thing I’m going to
address. Do we have anything else, Jason? Or can we wrap up here?

>>Jason: I think we’re good. Thanks for sticking with us, folks, and we’ll see you next week.

>>Crow: Absolutely. Thank you for everyone. All you members out there who have supported this and
you people with a recurring membership are what allow us to do this with confidence, because it’s a
projection into the future. It’s almost like shaking hands with me and saying yeah, you’ve got our

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backing. Keep doing this and here’s my handshake. That guarantees that you’ll have the resources to do
that. Anyhow, we’re going to come back strong with episode, where are we, 112 next time around. Right
Jason? So there it is, man. Cheers.

:: Belief is the enemy of knowing ::

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