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dnny Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:23 am Post subject: substitutes for Sound Lab IC´s
READ all the posts of this topic ...you will find more substitutes
Hello all i just had some extra time so i made list of the substitutes for Sound Lab IC´s. hope this is useful to somebody.
first there is LF442 (Dual JFET input op-amp)
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LT1057
LT1113
LT1457
OP215
TL092
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Second comes LF444 (Quad JFET input op-amp)
at least the follow ing IC´s share the same pinouts and therefore can replace LF444
LT1058
LF147
LF247
LF347
NTE859
OP482
TL074
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Third comes LM13700 (dual Operational Transconductance Amp)
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LM13600
NE5517
AU5517
NTE870
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and then there is
MPF102 (N JFET Amplifier)
this info is gathered from other post
so try these:
2N5457
BF256A
PN4416
J202
2N5951
2N3819
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NOTICE that the pins are oriented differently so make sure you insert it into the circuit board correctly.
greetings to all Sound Lab builders
Daniel
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adhdboy Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:12 am Post subject:
This is very cool. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
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Alex_D_Steak Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject:
great w ork, dnny!
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might be w orth including a link to this post on your site
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Etaoin Posted: W ed O ct 26, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:
More LF442 replacements: TL072 (low noise), TL062 (low pow er)
More LF444 replacements: TL064 (low pow er)
TL082 and TL084 are also options.
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dnny Posted: Thu O ct 27, 2005 2:00 pm Post subject:
thanks Etaoin for the substitutes.
and thanks v-un-v for making this post "Sticky"
i added the subtitutes for the MPF102.
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v-un-v Posted: Thu O ct 27, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject:
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no probs dnny :)
I'm gonna address the other issues as soon as Mosc sorts out some current server problems.
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Pehr Posted: Fri O ct 28, 2005 1:37 am Post subject:
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dnny wrote:
i added the subtitutes for the MPF102.
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Uncle Krunkus Posted: Sat O ct 29, 2005 5:43 am Post subject:
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W hat does "sticky" mean?
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dnny Posted: Mon O ct 31, 2005 12:45 am Post subject:
i think that sticky means
the post w ill stick on top of the list no matter w hat.
so it w ill not get buried by time.
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v-un-v Posted: Mon O ct 31, 2005 12:48 am Post subject:
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What does "sticky" mean? :?
I'll probably do the same for your veroboard designs as soon as the become more 'buried'!
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gubbeper Posted: Mon O ct 31, 2005 1:13 am Post subject:
On the subject of substitutes I’ve been thinking about the 1N914 diode and w hether it could be replaced by the 1N4148?
In the partslist for the 1V/Octave Voltage Controlled Oscillator the diodes are only refered to as High Speed Sw Diodes.
Could the 1N4148 be used here as w ell?
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Uncle Krunkus Posted: Mon O ct 31, 2005 1:21 am Post subject:
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The 1N914 and the 1N4148 are almost exactly the same. I haven't come across a circuit w hich quotes one and doesn't w ork
w ith the other. You can how ever get diodes that sw itch faster than either of them.
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Pehr Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:19 am Post subject:
Does anyone know if the LM324 is a good substitute for LF444?
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Uncle Krunkus Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:35 pm Post subject:
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I can't see anything w rong w ith it.
I'm not an expert at reading Op-Amp specs though.
Pinout, and pow er supply are fine, so I'd give it a go.
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Etaoin Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:51 am Post subject:
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Does anyone know if the LM324 is a good substitute for LF444?
LF444 is a JFET input opamp, LM324 isn't. So no.
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Etaoin Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:55 am Post subject:
By the w ay, I'm currently building RJW 's VCO and found that replacing the LF411 and LF442 w ith their TL "equivalents"
doesn't alw ays w ork. I can't get the 1V/Oct scaling right w ith these substitutes in. So the exact specs might be essential in
some applications.
This might also affect the LF444 used in the SL's oscillators. I got mine to w ork w ith TL064's, but judging from my
experience w ith the VCO, the original LF might have been better.
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dnny Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
thanks for the info.
the "equivalents" are picked up w hit only equal pinnouts . not by the specs
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Op Amp Substitution?
Pretty much any quad JFET input op-amp with the same pinout will do to replace the LF444 and pretty much any dual
JFET input op-amp with the same pinout will do to replace the LF442. I chose these because they draw very little current
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Etaoin Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:15 am Post subject:
I should probably add that my LF411 and 442 are still on order, so although I can't get the VCO to w ork properly w ith TL061
and TL062 replacements, I can't yet say it does w ork w ith the LF's! I'm just assuming that the reason I can't get it tuned is
because I tried replacements. All other components are as specified and it does w ork fine apart from the tuning.
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I should probably add that my LF411 and 442 are still on order, so although I can't get the VC O to work properly with
TL061 and TL062 replacements,
Etaoin,
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Etaoin Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject:
I w as trying to explain that it w as w rong to include my comment at the top of this thread. If I say that elsew here, it's of not
much use. I'd suggest just removing my messages from this thread.
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I'd suggest just removing my messages from this thread.
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No offense mate, but I've got enough things on my plate right now - than having to chase list members w ho aren't thinking
before pressing return. (This goes for everyone btw !)
I hope you understand
If you've got a component w hich w orks as a substitute for any component on Ray's site- then by all means- put it here. But
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I'd suggest just removing my messages from this thread.
you can do it yourself
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Pehr Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:07 am Post subject:
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LF444 is a JFET input opamp, LM324 isn't. So no.
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Uncle Krunkus Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:04 am Post subject:
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Yeah,
Ray said there's some specific problem w ith the TLXXX series, I think it w as in the VCO, can't remember, but apart from that
they're fine.
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Location: Copenhagen - You can't alw ays substitute 13600 for 13700. 13700 have linearisation diodes, 13600 does not.
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If Rays design uses these diodes you can NOT use the 13600 in stead of the 13700.
I do not know if this is the case though.
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