Unified Thread Dimensions Overview
Unified Thread Dimensions Overview
Does not take into account thread classes- use published tables for standard threads!
Warning- Initial thread data is used throughout worksheet page- enter accurate numbers!
in/in allowance
f this is positive!
Basic Dimensions for 60 Degree ISO Metric Threads
Warning- Initial thread data is used throughout spreadsheet- enter accurate numbers!
8
95.889
117.178
137.862
158.023
177.720
196.999
215.898
252.669
288.220
305.583
322.691
368.000
430.214
488.778
544.471
597.818
698.885
794.022
884.495
971.158
1054.621
1135.342
1213.673
1289.893
Build-down of thread system from outer wall dimensions
Outside dim of nut (min) 3.4 mm
Minimum wall thickness 0.15 mm
Max root of nut 3.1 mm
Pitch 0.5 mm
H 0.433013 mm
Max PD of nut 2.77525 mm
Max crest of nut (not really) 2.55875 mm
PD tolerance range allotted to nut 0.01 mm
PD tolerance range allotted to screw 0.025 mm
Max PD of screw 2.74025 mm
Min PD of screw 2.71525 mm
Cutting Speeds
50-60 100-120
100-125 200-250
65-120 130-240
70-130 140-260
115-225 230-450
300 600
75-130 150-260
60-80 120-160
80-150 160-300
600+ 1200+
250-350 500-700
30 Degree Trapezoidal Metric Threads (or any other angle)
Transfer 1 18 teeth For no transfer gears, "figure I", enter same value for each.
Transfer 2 54 teeth 18/54 combination is normal for "figure II".
Transfer Ratio A 0.333333
Transfer 3 1 teeth This is for "figure III" where the transfers are doubled and
Transfer 4 1 teeth reversed- use 18/54 here and 24/48 above. For no transfer
Transfer Ratio B 1 gears, enter the same value for each, say 1 and 1.
Metric Threading
use 37/47 for approximate or 100/127 for exact.
can also use 63/40 and a factor of two elsewhere but a 40:1 dividing head won't do 63.
DP 16 Logan is typically 16
pressure angle 14.5 deg Logan and most older gears are 14.5 degree pressure angle. (this is used for
N 18 teeth
OD of blank 1.2500 in
tooth thickness on pl 0.0982 in
pitch diameter 1.1250 in
pitch radius 0.5625 in
min total depth 0.1348 in
spaces 4
factor 0.01109 use 0.01109 for 14.5, 0.0298 for 20, 0.04303 for 22.5 pressure angles
result 0.8615 in
From a forum post:
Mic OD
Count teeth
Add TWO to that count
Divide sum by OD
Example:
2.010" OD
32 teeth
34 divided by 2.010 = 16.91 DP
A 20DP 32 tooth gear will be 1.700 OD
change things in RED only, formulas in BLUE
inches
mm
t older gears are 14.5 degree pressure angle. (this is used for the measurement across teeth below)
Leadscrew pitch 1 mm Metric version lathe is 1mm Sherline gears: 3rd Party gears
56 pitch 24 pitch 56 pitch 24 pitch
Required thread pitch 0.75 mm 33.87 tpi A, B C, D, E A, B C, D, E
50 20 16
Ratio multiplier 100 Scale factor- typically 50 or 100 for Sherline 100 22 25
127 24 60
"C" gear 24 teeth 26
"B" gear 100 teeth Usually 100 for Sherline 28
Transfer ratio 0.24 inverse 4.166666667 30
32
"A" spindle gear 100 teeth Actual spindle gear 100 teeth 34
"D" leadscrew gear 32 teeth Actual leadscrew gear 32 teeth 36
38
Note that the "E" gear can be anything convenient Actual pitch 0.75 mm 40
"D" cannot exceed 3" in diameter if "C" is 20t % error 0.00 %
A 50 teeth 50 50 50 50
B 100 teeth 100 100 100 100
C 24 teeth 24 24 24 24
D (outboard) 40 teeth 60 60 60 40
E1 (inboard) 40 teeth 40 40 40 40
E2 (outboard) 34 teeth 20 24 32 34
DP 60 59.27
pressure angle 20 deg
N 40 teeth
OD of blank 0.7000 in 17.7800 mm
tooth thickness on pl 0.0262 in 0.6650 mm
pitch diameter 0.6667 in 16.9333 mm
pitch radius 0.3333 in 8.4667 mm
min total depth 0.0360 in 0.9131 mm
english module 0.0167
spaces 2
factor #VALUE! This factor is 2X INV(pressure angle) from above pressure angle
result #VALUE! in (got .2396" for plastic gear that shrunk a bit- better photo is .13424)
General Metric Module Spur Gear Design Note that this worksheet has a vba macro for calculating the involute function and its inverse (INV and IINV).
Designing standard module gears is easy because you pick the module and all other dimensions fall into place with simple formulas. There are some
minor differences in tooth dimension standards. Here we use the practice of US gear cutter makers where clearance = 0.157 * module. The problem
arises when reverse engineering an existing gear system because it may not be a standard module and may use a profile shift. It may take a certain
amount of trial and error to come up with a shift that gives the correct OD and center to center distance, if they can be achieved at all.
Standard Metric Gear Module with PD Known Module Derived from Center to Center Distance
this only works for non-shifted standard gears
N 40 teeth c-c distance 11.185 mm
pitch diameter 17.22 mm N1 10 teeth PD 4.4740 mm OD 5.3688 mm
module 0.4305 mm 59.0012 DP N2 40 teeth PD 17.8960 mm OD 18.7908 mm
module 0.4474 mm
DP 56.7725
Standard Metric Gear Design with Module Known Standard Metric Gear Module with OD Known (risky business!)
N 40 teeth N 40 teeth
module 0.4305 mm 59.0012 DP OD 17.85 mm
pressure angle 15 deg module 0.4250 mm 59.7647 DP
OD 18.0810 mm
pitch diameter 17.2200 mm
root diameter 16.1438 mm
circular pitch 1.3525 mm Center to Center Distance for Two Standard Gears
base diameter 16.6332 mm
addendum 0.4305 mm N1, N2 10 teeth 40 teeth
dedendum 0.4981 mm module 0.425 mm
working depth 0.8610 mm ` c-c distance 10.6250 mm
total tooth depth 0.9286 mm
tooth width at PD 0.6762 mm
0.20 16 47 37 60 18 60
0.25 16 47 37 60 24 64
0.30 18 47 37 40 16 60
0.35 16 47 37 50 28 64
0.40 16 47 37 40 24 60
0.45 24 47 37 40 18 60
0.50 24 47 37 64 32 60
0.60 18 47 37 40 32 60
0.65 18 47 37 60 52 60
0.70 28 47 37 40 24 60
0.75 18 47 37 1 1 60
0.80 24 47 37 40 32 60
0.90 18 47 37 60 48 40
1.00 24 47 37 1 1 60
1.20 48 47 37 40 24 60
1.25 18 47 37 1 1 36
1.30 24 47 37 40 52 60
1.40 24 47 37 40 56 60
1.50 36 47 37 1 1 60
1.75 56 47 37 40 32 64
2.00 48 47 37 1 1 60
2.25 36 47 37 1 1 40
2.50 48 47 37 1 1 48
2.75 44 47 37 1 1 40
3.00 48 47 37 60 48 32
3.50 54 47 37 60 56 36
4.00 48 47 37 60 48 24
For Logan and Similar Lathes with a QC Gearbox Leadscrew 8
Transpose1 100
Transpose2 127
These numbers are from the Logan factory literature The numbers below back calculate the TPI
for lathes with a quick change threading gearbox. MM and show you both the external gear ratios
Pitch = (40/QCTPI)*(Stud/QCGear) and the QC gearbox ratio. Note that you can
Drive the transposing pair from the stud gear. change the transposing pair above to see the
error with 37/47 or 80/63.
TPI
0.200
0.250
0.300
0.350
0.400
0.450
0.500
0.600
0.650
0.700
0.750
0.800
0.900
1.000
1.200
1.250
1.300
1.400
1.500
1.750
2.000
2.250
2.500
2.750
3.000
3.500
4.000
4.500
5.000
5.500
6.000
Gear Selector for Fine Pitch Metric Threads on the Logan Changegear Lathe
1) Enter the desired pitch. We assume that 37/47 or 100/127 gear packs are already installed.
2) Select a gear pair from the table that produces the correct ratio. Install as the stud gear and leadscrew gear.
3) If a simple ratio is impossible, select two gear pairs, one for each of the new 1st and 2nd ratios. Some fractional multiplier may be needed.
4) Install one pair as the stud and outer of the pack nearest the leadscrew, the other pair as the inner of the pack, and the leadscrew gear.
Warning- Especially with the finer threads, many combinations can't be physically installed and engage properly. Experimentation required!
More explanation:
The Logan leadscrew is 8 TPI, or 3.175 mm pitch. When you install a 100/127 pair the ratio is less than one so you are turning the leadscrew slower and
increasing the threads per mm that are cut, i.e., decreasing the pitch. The pitch is divided by 1.27, giving an effective leadscrew pitch of 2.5 mm per thread.
With the 100/127 gears in place you can simply think of the lathe as having a 2.5 mm pitch leadscrew. Thus the 2.5 factor in cell F11 of this spreadsheet.
If you're using the 37/47 gears, the correct number would be 2.499468, but this would just confuse things because none of the results would come out even.
The error between the 100/127 and 37/47 gear pairs is about 0.02%, insignificant for most purposes. It might matter for long engagements, but there are
other sources of pitch error that would also have to be considered before attempting such ill-considered designs.
Gear Selector for Inch Threads on the Logan Changegear Lathe
1) Enter the desired pitch. We assume an 8 TPI leadscrew (can change in cell F11).
2) Select a gear pair from the table that produces the correct ratio. Install as the stud gear and leadscrew gear.
3) If a simple ratio is impossible, select two gear pairs, one for each of the new 1st and 2nd ratios. Some fractional multiplier may be needed.
4) Install one pair as the stud and outer of the pack nearest the leadscrew, the other pair as the inner of the pack, and the leadscrew gear.
Warning- Especially with the finer threads, many combinations can't be physically installed and engage properly. Experimentation required!
Integer Fractional
Enter desired TPI 8.47 TPI ratio multipliers 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 2.5
Needed ratio 0.9445 new 1st ratio 1.889 2.8335 3.778 4.7226 5.6671 6.6116 7.5561 8.5006 2.3613
new 2nd ratio 0.5 0.3333 0.25 0.2 0.1667 0.1429 0.125 0.1111 0.4
test numerators 1 68 0.9444
test denom. 1 72
test ratios 1 0.9444
51 83
53 87
57 89
59 91
61 93
63 96
67 97
69 99
71
73
77
79
81
Knurling
Knurling should reproduce the knurl pattern around the part at the same spacing as the knurl. The knurl engages
the part very much like gears engage. There will be a series of optimum part diameters for a given diametrical
pitch knurl to give best quality. Though there is some flexibility in the diameter of the part, unsuitable part
diameters will lead to double tracking of the knurl and a poor pattern. If the knurl spacing on the part doesn't
match the knurl then double tracking has occured. Use this spreadsheet to choose optimum part diameters for
specific knurls. Most instructions state that some experimentation will be required.
Remember that the part diameter will grow with knurling, so you may want to choose one of the smaller blank
diameters calculated above.
You can also ink the (clean) knurl on a stamp pad and roll it down a piece of paper or just make an impression.
Count lines and measure with verniers. Use the calculations below.
Number of lines/cycles 75
Distance over pattern of lines/cycles 3.535 in
Circular pitch 0.0471 in 1.1972 mm
Diametrical pitch 66.6533
make an impression.
Cylinderical Square Dimensions