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My name is Ken Afienko and I will be conducting a swom and recorded
statement with Officer Kevin Hennings in reference to Marco Island Police
Department Internal Affairs case number IA 18 - 003. The interview is being
conducted at the Marco Island Police Department on May 21, 2018 and the
time now is 2:35 pm, Officer Hennings, do you understand that this statement
is being recorded?
Yes,
Department members shall - department members shall answer or render
material and relevant statements to the designated depart- departmental
authority when so directed. Members shall answer all questions honestly,
completely and to the best of their ability. No employee shall, in any manner,
interfere with an internal investigation except as authorized or required.
Members shall not contact persons involved in any internal investigation. A
request to provide an administrative statement shall be regarded as a direct
order by the Chief of Police. Members are required to respond to all questions
during an interview. They shall answer all questions fully and truthfully. Any
member of the Marco Island Police Department who declines to provide an
administration statement shall be subject to immediate suspension and further
disciplinary procedure, up to and including termination of employment with
the department. Mr. Hennings, do you understand this?
Yes,
Prior to the interview you were provided a copy of the officers’ Bill of Rights
and Garrity warning. Do you understand your rights and the Garrity warning?
Yes,
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No.
You are being questioned as a subject officer in an official investigation by
the Marco Island Police Department. Do you understand this?
Yes.
‘You are required to give a statement for administration purposes. You will be
asked questions specifically, directly, and narrowly related to the performance
of your official duties. Neither your statement nor any information or evidence
which is gained by reason of such statement can be used against you in any
subsequent departmental charges. Do you understand this?
Yes.
You're entitled to all the rights and privileges guaranteed by Chapter 112.532
Florida statutes entitled Law Enforcement Officers’ Bill of Rights, including
the right to have an attomey or other representative present during
questioning. Do you request anyone to represent you at this time?
Thave my attorney.
And what's your attorney's name?
Michael Braverman.
‘And is Mr. Braverman here to represent you at your request?
‘Yes.
Again, I am Ken Afienko under contract with the Marco Island Police
Department. | am conducting the interview in this particular case. Also
present in the room are Captain Rich Stoltenborg and Attomey Milton Collins
and, of course, Attommey Braverman, As a notary for the State of Florida I am
empowered to administer oaths. That said, please raise your right hand, The
right hand is raised. Do you solemnly swear that the statement you are about
10 give now will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Yes,
‘A complaint has been made by Chief Al Schettino that you engaged in sex
while on duty. The violation of this particular incident involves general order
of 103.2 - 4: Conduct, integrity, 103.3.1. And then another one, conduct
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you asked any unrecorded questions about this investigation?
No.
And we just tuned the tape recorder on, Just - just so we're clear, uh, is it my
understanding you're recording this interview as well?
Yes.
Okay. There's one official tape recording and that’s through Marco Island
Police Department. Therefore if you want to public records request for it you
ccan also ask for that at the end but there’s only gonna be one recorded
interview so could you please turn off your phone at this time?
Well, if he’s agrecing to record it and he’s assenting, why is there any
prohibition from recording the meeting?
Well, you're more than welcome to get a copy of his interview. As you know,
with the police officers” Bill of Rights he has a right to ask for that copy of the
interview and just for - for clarity purposes and procedural matters we want
official tape recording of the proceeding
Well, we don’t disagree,
So we will have that.
This is just for my own official...
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And we will give a copy of our recording and that’s not a problem. So there's
no reason to have two different tape recordings running so.
Is there a departmental rule that prevents him from doing that by any chance?
Because again, I've never had that there’s an issue. You know what, Kevin,
go ahead. I would suggest you tun it off because I don’t want there to be an
issue that the information has somehow been leaked out I - before it’s
concluded the investigation. So I would go ahead and assent to that. And - and
just so that we can...
Excuse me. I’m sorry.
If I can make one other - this is Mr. Braverman, Um, while I understand your
role here, orders need to be given by command staff people. So, Captain, are
you ordering Kevin Hennings to stop recording this meeting?136
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Okay, Perfect. Thank you.
You're weleome.
Mr. Hennings, were you given an opportunity to review the complaint and all
the statements made by the complainant and witnesses?
‘Yes.
Did you have sufficient time to review the information?
‘Yes.
For the record, please state your name, rank and current assignment.
Kevin Hennings. I'm a police officer and I'm currently assigned to, um, be on
administrative leave.
‘And how long have you been at the agency?
Since, uh, November of 2000,
Okay - okay. As your attorney requested we're gonna go through the file and
document what was provided to you prior to the tape recorder going on. The
first document is an employee - notice to employee dated April 26, 2018. That
encompasses three different pages. The next document is Marco Island Police
Department Internal Affairs waming and that’s dated 4/26/18 signed by who
would be apparently Kevin Hennings and Captain Stoltenborg, There is a
Garrity waming consisting of one page dated 4/26/18, again, apparently
signed by Officer Hennings and Captain Stoltenborg. There is also - the next
document is four pages consisting of Florida statute 112.532. The next
document is a memo indicating - it’s a one-page memo dating the date and
time of the interview was May 21st at 10:00 a.m.
Excuse me. Can I...
Sure,
«interrupt for a second, | understand you gonna itemize a hundred pieces of
paper but in the sake of, uh, just going to the interview is there any way
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1 just wanted him to list the three statements that we got to review and the text
‘messages, the items that we got to review. But if you want to waive it, Kevin,
we can go into the (unintelligible.
| just - I mean, there’s a lot of papers there and in the interest of time it's fine.
‘Thank you for asking - doing what | asked but we'll go ahead and waive the
entering that into the record (unintelligible).
P'm sorry.
Well, what..
It’s okay with me, I’m...
Let me ask you this then, would you agree we've provided you two statements
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Would you agree we've provided you a statement from NINN) 's sister?
I don’t know who her sister is but.
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Would you agree that we've provided you with that statement?
Yes,
Would you agree we've provided you various GPS records and duty logs?
Yes
Would you agree that we've provided you with different text messages?
Yes.
And that’s the exhibits I'm gonna be using if it’s okay with me - you and Mr.
Braverman. Is that all right?
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All right, I'll give you this back in case you needed?
1 just figured that was.
Okay. Any other housekeeping measures we need to address?
‘Um, no. We were just gonna I think put on the record at the end your role but
other than that I think we're ready to proceed.
Sure. I'll put it on the beginning.
No problem.
My role here, Ken Afienko, I've been hired independently by the Marco
Island Police Department, conduct the interview of Kevin Hennings and the
person in charge of the investigation is Captain Stoltenborg and he’s the one
that’s gonna be completing the finished product, for lack of a better term, after
the interview. My sole responsibility is to conduct the interview today of Mr.
Hennings.
Excellent. Thank you, sir.
You're welcome. Okay. All right, Mr. Hennings. I understand that you've
been here for quite some time at the Marco Island Police Department?
Yes.
‘And what is your normal shift if - if - I don't know how often you rotate but
what's your normal shift?
Uh, it’s either 6:00 at night to 6:00 in the moming or 6:00 at morning to 6:00
at the night.
‘And where - do you have a particular zone that you work?
‘They rotate.
Rotate? Do you bid for the rotations?
Yes,
‘And how do they bid? By sonority or how - how do they bid?
Uh, you'd have to ask the captain that. I...21
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Now back in 2017, specifically around February, do you remember what shift
you were on then?
I didn’t at first but I - I believe I was on night shift. I went back and looked
and I saw the, uh, information that you guys provided.
And just - just to reiterate and what hours would that have been?
6.00 at night to 6:00 in the moming.
And is that in patrol?
Yes.
And what kind of police vehicle do you drive around to conduct your patrol
activities?
Um, I don’t remember what it was back then but it was - either a Tahoe or a,
uh, Ford, uh, Explorer.
It.
I think it was a Ford Explorer then.
Is it marked with Marco Island Police Department or it an...
Yes.
undercover vehicle?
No, it’s a marked car.
Does it have blue lights on top?
Yes - no = no.
No, it’s flat top?
I believe they're on the grill.
Okay.
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Meaning it doesn’t have the lights on top?
‘The Tahoes I think they have - do the Tahoes have lights on top?
Just answer what you know, Kevin.
Uh...
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I don’t believe that there’s lights on the top of that vehicle,
Do you normally drive the same vehicle? You're assigned a vehicle?
Uh, it varies. It depends on what's in service.
Do some of the vehicles have the light bar on top?
I don’t know if we have any left that...
Okay.
are still outfitted like that.
Make sure you're thinking about 2017 also when you're answering that
question please.
Now when you go on your patrol duties in this instance back in February of
2017 what kind of uniform were you wearing?
Um, a police uniform. I don’t recall what the - we've switched uniforms a few
times so I don’t remember what uniform but I know it was a police uniform.
Does it have a badge on it?
Yes.
Is the badge a metal badge or is it just the...
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‘That's what I don’t know.
Okay. And is it the standard issue uniform of the Marco Island Police
Department?
Yes,
And part of that uniform do you wear a gun belt?
Yes.
And on your gun belt you have your firearm?
Yes.
Taser I'm assuming?
Yes.
‘What other types of equipment do you have on your gun belt?
Handcuffs, radio, ammo.
Now when you check on your shift do you check on via computer and the
radio or just the computer or just the radio, if you remember correctly?
I'm not sure how we did it in - at that time. There was a time where we
switched from logging onto the CAD and to - they send over a roster.
Okay.
Um, I just don’t know how - how you mean.
‘Now are part of your duties to do what they call directed patrol?
‘Yes.
And directed patrol, correct me if I'm wrong, consists of driving through
certain areas of the city or the zone in which you were assigned, is this,
correct?
Yes.
And that’s to be visible to the public, one reason?406
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Crime prevention.
Crime prevention, sure. It’s part of it. You're also looking for any suspicious
activity, correct?
Yes.
And I'm gonna direct your attention back to around January or February 2017.
‘There's a place in the City of Marco Island. It’s called Tigertail Beach. Are
you familiar with that?
Tam.
Is that - or was that in your zone back in - in January or February of 2017?
I don’t know.
And if understand correctly, do you live fairly close to Tigertail Beach?
Well, I live on the island,
Okay,
‘Um, and that’s not very close to Tigertail Beach but it’s a small island.
Tunderstand, And from what you remember how often would you patrol in -
in Tigertail Beach on a nightly basis?
I don’t know
Have you ever patrolled in Tigertail Beach at nighttime when the park is
closed’? We're understanding it closes at dusk, is that correct? To civilians?
I don’t know what it closes but I know I patrol there.
And part of your patrol detail at Tigertail Beach, it’s my understanding it has a
gate that supposedly blocks people from diving back into the area, is that
correct?
Yes.
And is that gate usually open or closed?
I don’t know what it was back then. Um, they go through periods where the451
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gate doesn’t operate so I don’t know. Sometimes people try to lift it manually
or, um, you know, vandalize or whatever. I don’t know what it was back then,
Do you have a key or some other device in your police car that allows you to
open that gate when it is functioning correctly?
Yes.
And what type of device is that?
Like a remote control.
Do you ever remember using the remote control to access Tigertail Beach at
any time whatsoever?
Of course.
On a typical time when you patrol Tigertail Beach what is it you're looking
for?
It depends on when - whenever I’m there. Um, sometimes I go there just to
write reports. Sometimes I go there, um - um, you know, because somebody's
injured. Sometimes I go - you know, depends on if it’s daytime, nighttime, uh,
whatever. Sometimes I go to use the restroom. It just depends,
What would be the normal amount of time you would spend at Tigertail
Beach on any given - given evening?
Again, it depends on the reason why I’m there,
Okay. I want to direct your attention - and again, I - I don’t know the exact
date but do you know 2 (i)?
know who she is
Do you remember when you first met (IN >
I don’t.
Do you know if (III) ever worked at Joey's restaurant or pizza?
Uh, she - I don’t know if she - um, from reading the statements, yeah, I know
that she did but...
Do you know what (EE) looks like?496
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I've seen a mug shot of her and I’ve had a - uh, crossed paths with her on a
few occasions. So, I mean, I would recognize her if I saw her.
Again, I don’t know the date and forgive me, but did you ever go to
HE ith Officer (Brian Grannerman) and were introduced with ND
by Officer (Grannerman)?
Idon’t know. I might have but I just don’t know.
Are you - well, at the time, were you familiar that Officer (Grannerman) was
friends with a )?
I'm sorry?
When you first met (SII) were you aware that she was friends with
(Brian Grannerman)?
I don’t know
Did (Brian Grannerman) ever tell you about (HD
I knew that she - I knew that they knew each other but I don’t know at what
point in time I leamed that.
Okay. And you read her statement, correct?
Yes.
(MERE) testified in her statement that she obtained your personal
cell phone number. Do you know how she would have retrieved that
information?
1- Ihave a business and I do a lot of marketing so she could have obtained it
‘one of many ways. I don’t know how she obtained it.
Did you ever provide her your personal cell phone number?
No.
Did you ever use any social media platforms to communicate with (i
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You've never used Instagram with a
No.
Did you ever text (END from your personal cell phone?
Um, yes. I had.
‘And when did you first text her?
I don’t know when,
And why would you be texting (INN)? You can roll that, Thank
you.
Now?
Sure.
Okay. There were times were, um, I didn’t know that it was her. Um, and then
afier [learned that she got my phone number she texted me some pretty
provocative stuff and, uh - and that’s how I learned it was her.
Well, before you leamed it was her who did you think it was?
Well, I didn’t have her phone number stored in my phone and it came up as an
out-of-area phone number. So I
Oops. Sorry, guys.
1 thought it was somebody on my shift,
Did her name pop up on the text message?
No.
Okay. And do you remember what the message was?
1 [don’t remember what messages. Um, I don’t remember what the message
was when | found out that it was her. Um, but she used to text me some pretty
nasty stuff,
Do you remember what you text her or this person that you didn’t know at the
time? Do you remember what you responded with on the text?586
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After I learned that it was her, um, I mean, I'd actually had a conversation
with her in person. And I said don’t be ting me that stuff. Um, you know, you
need to erase that and don’t text me, you know, any - anything like that. And,
ub, I kind of scolded her for doing it
Do you remember when that was?
No, I don’t.
Prior to you knowing her, knowing that it was her texting you, do you
remember what your response was to this anonymous text?
You want to look at it?
(Unintelligible).
I think it’s right here.
(Unintelligible).
Can you ask me that question again?
Prior to you knowing it was (NIMH), do you know what you texted back to
this anonymous person? What you're referring to?
Well, [ don’t remember at which point in time I figured out that it was her but
[remember getting a text from a number that I assumed was somebody else
on my shift. And um, you know, it was just stuff like where I was or whether,
uh, if I was going to meet them or whatever. Um, | just don’t remember at
what point in time - I'm trying to decipher through these text messages - at
‘what point in time that I discovered that it was her. I think it was right around
when she was being nasty, um, very provocative and sexual. And that’s when
Thad the verbal conversation with her.
Do you have the same phone that you had back in February, January of 2017-
ish? Do you still have the same phone provider?
Ido.
And which provider is that, what service?
Um, it’s Verizon.
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We'll discuss it at the conclusion of this investigation and I'll get back to you.
Thank you.
Do you normally answer anonymous text messages?
It depends on what I think it - who I think it was or whatever. I- Imean, in the
middle of the night you don’t get too many text messages other than like
you're coworkers and stuf so, I mean, I would always answer a text messages
from one of my coworkers.
What made you think it was a coworker if you identity recognize the number?
I just assumed it was.
Did you ever ask who it was?
Did 1 ask who was texting me?
Yes
No, I - if | assumed it was somebody else then why would I ask?
When did you find out that it wasn’t a fellow coworker?
I don’t remember.
How did you find out it was not a fellow coworker?
don’t remember.
When did you first find out that it was (III) texting you?
When the provocative stuff came through and I thought that that was a safe,
uh, a safe bet that that wasn’t a coworker.
Okay. Well, let’s talk about that. Are you referring to the text messages that
are in the file?
Um, I don’t remember which text message it was but when a text message that
had nothing to do with, you know, um - a text message that was more
elaborate than, hey, what are you doing, um, that’s - that’s when it would raise
a suspicion that it's not a coworker.
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Um, I don’t - I don’t remember.
Okay, Well, let’s tur to the text messages and let’s talk about those. I see you
have copies of text messages. I'm gonna start with page one, which starts out
with a text. It appears on January 11, 2017 at 4:01 a.m. That's the earliest text
that is in that portfolio of documents we handed you. Do you see that text in
here?
Yes.
‘And - and it's, again, dated 1/11/2017 at 4:01 a.m, Do you see that?
Yes.
And it’s from a person that identifies themselves as (III). You see
that?
Well, I see it on the paper here.
Do you have any reason to doubt this text message? Meaning you see your
name on the - on the third line, correct?
Yes.
And that is your phone number...
Yes.
sight next to it? Do you remember receiving this text message?
No. It’s from over a year ago.
Tunderstand that. I'm just asking if you remember it
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Okay. Do you have any reason to doubt the information that’s on that text
message? Meaning you have any reason to doubt the authenticity of what this
text messages..
No.
indicate?
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This text message says, “Oh, can I follow you?” You don’t know what that
means?
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follow.
If you would have received this text message and you didn’t know who it was
wouldn't that raise your suspicion?
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don’t know - I mean, 4:00 o'clock in the morning, I don’t - I didn’t respond to
the text so I don’t know what, uh, what would - why I would, uh, assume that
it's something different.
Well, my - my question is, and I’ll try to make it a little bit more clear, which
leads me - if I ask a question that’s unclear and you don’t understand please
ask me to repeat it or rephrase it, okay? Not a problem.
Okay.
Are you saying you don’t remember if this was SNE) that was
texting you from this number on January 11, 2017? At 4:01 a.m.? Are you
saying you don’t know who that was?
I don’t remember if knew who it was.
The next message is the same date, 1/11/2017. And you remember working
that day, is that correct?
Um, I - if you say I was I’m sure I was,
No - no. I'm not gonna say you were. I'm just asking you if you were. I'm
gonna show you a Marco Island Police Department shift assignment dated
January 10, 2017. Could you please take a look at that.766
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I'm on the shift as I'm on the roster as working.
So that means you would have started your shift at 6:00 p.m. on January 10th
and worked until 6:00 a.m. on January 11, is that correct?
Yes.
Do you have any reason to doubt the authenticity of that particular shift log?
No.
Okay. Do you know where you would have been at 4:01 a.m. on that
particular day?
Tdon’t.
The next message on there is from (MINNIE) again and this was date
stamped 1/11/2017 at 40:12 a.m, Do you see that message? It’s the next - very
next message on page one that you're looking at?
Yes.
Do you see that? The message says, “I'll meet you at the outer mounds.” And
I'm guessing that probably would be the Otter Mounds but it's just
misspelled. You see that message?
Yes.
Do you recall ever receiving that message?
I'm sure I did. Um, I don’t - I don’t have recollection of that specific date, uh,
but, mean, I’m not disputing it if that’s what it says,
So you would have received this message?
If that's what the records show, I mean,
What - what are the Otter Mounds just for my knowledge?
I don’t...
‘You don’t know what they are?
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The next message is at 4:2- I'm sorry, 4:25 a.m. from (QIN). Do you
see that?
Yes.
This message says, “Well, you have a good night, Mister. Just know you're
‘gonna fuck me this weekend. Nighty night.” You see that message?
Yes.
Do you remember getting that message?
I - again, I don’t remember the date and, um, I don’t remember the incident
but I’m sure I got that message if that’s what the records say.
Wall, if you say you're sure you got that message what would that message
‘mean to you?
It would mean that somebody was inappropriate in sending me that message.
Why didn’t you respond to that particular comment? Or did you respond to it?
Well, I don’t - I mean, I wasn’t engaging in conversation with this person.
Okay. Next message, 1/11/2017, 4:26 a.m. And this is from you, and this is
the fourth message down on that particular sheet. You see that?
That was - that was my response.
Yes. Your response is, “I had a call. Erase.” Do you see that?
Yes,
Did you write that or did you type that?
1-Idon’t remember but if it’s on there I would say that I trust it.
Assuming that you didn’t know who (IINNNEHIMN) is and she’s - or this person
is sending you these messages, why would you respond in the fashion that you
did, “I had a call. Erase”?
I don’t know,
What does “erase” mean?856
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remember I had a conversation in person with her. I don’t remember the
time. I don’t remember the date. But she used to be very provocative and
flirtatious and she used to say things like that. And [told her, um, you know,
listen, you need to cut that out, you know? Don’t be - don’t be texting stuf
like that. Don’t be coming onto people like that. I'm married. This isn't gonna
- you're in the same class as my son, you know. I said, you know, stop being
inappropriate, cut that stuff out and erase.
So was that conversation that you had with her orally was that before these
text messages on January 11th.
I- I don’t know. I don’t remember what the date was of that conversation, um,
but I:do know I had that conversation with her. And I was kind of - I wasn’t
very - when she started doing that stuff, I wasn’t very firm with her. Um, and
then this is right around the time where I was kind of getting fed up with it
and I said, “Listen, cut that shit out. Erase it. Don’t do that anymore.” You
know, the - it’s when I start to kind of become a little bit more firm about it.
So again, I'm gonna ask. I'll ask you in a different way. This conversation that
you had with IMI) io cease and desist these types of
‘conversations, that would have been before this particular string of text
messages?
I don’t remember. Again, I'll reiterate for you.
Mm-hm.
Idon’t remember the date of when I had that exchange with her. Um, I do
know that that was, um - it was a point that I made to have that conversation
with her and, um, you know, I wasn’t as firm as I should have been, Um, and
it got to the point where she was a bit aggressive with her promiscuity and it
‘201 to the point where I just had to get, um, very point-blank about it.
Were you offended by her comments and promiscuity, as you put it?
‘Well, it’s just, you know, it’s just inappropriate as, uh - you know, not,
something I wanted to engage in.
Who did you tell about that inappropriate behavior?
Idon’t - I mean, it wasn’t something that I went around talking to people
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had this conversation with her and she had a cell phone? Obviously you didn’t
respond to it in a kind fashion, meaning similar fashion. So what would be the
purpose of having her erase that? I’m assuming off of her phone, correct?
1 Itold her, um - when I had that exchange with her, I told her I said, you
know, cut this stuff out, you know, erase it. Stop doing it. Don't - don’t, uh,
don’t contact me, you know. So I - my purpose for telling her, hey, cut this
stuff out was to eliminate the exchange of conversations in the future.
How come you didn’t tell her that in any of the string of text messages on the
1th?
Idon’t know. I - not a big texter.
Would you agree that there's nothing on that string of text from the Ith that
suggest that she needs to stop with this promiscuous and provocative
conversation? From you, that is?
Well, I think that the fact that I didn’t respond to her for five hours is
indicative of me not wanting to have a conversation with her.
Okay. When you said not responding to her for five hours, what do you mean?
Or whatever it was or..
It was actually.
Well, I'm sorry.
one minute.
I'm sorry, not hours. Five text messages - or four text messages. Me not
responding to her for four text messages in a row that she sent me with no
response is indicative of me not wanting to have an exchange with her.
Would that be because you were on a call?
I don’t know. I don’t think | had a call that lasted, uh, you know, any
significant amount of time but I don’t remember that, Um, yeah.
Okay. Let's - let’s go on to the text messages. The next text messages from
her to you, she says, “Yeah - yeah, with pleasure.” You see that on there?
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‘The next message again is from her at 4:28 a.m. and her comment to you is,
“Just know you're still fucking me this weekend.” Do you see that?
Yes.
Do you have any reason to doubt that you received this particular text,
message?
I don’t know if I did or not. If the record show that I did I wouldn't argue with
it
Well, I mean, your phone wasn’t malfunctioning at the time, was it?
Sir, you're talking about a year-and-a-half ago. I don’t recall the messages that
I got. I’m going off the paper that you gave me.
understand. Did - well, if you were having issues with it did you ever make a
complaint or a report to Verizon about it?
I don’t think I lodged a complaint with Verizon.
As a matter of fact do you know if you were ever having any issues with your
text message program?
I don’t know what you're referring to.
Counsel, do you have any certification that these text messages are accurate?
No..
Or of origin?
I'm just asking your client.
‘Yeah, well, so again, I - I think you're testifying a little more than - than what
I think is appropriate. He doesn't know what he has except for what you gave
him so he's not gonna attest to the veracity of something...
Sure.
.--you haven't given him any reason to doubt but he doesn’t know where he
got it,
Well then I'll ask you this question, since your attorney brought it up, do you
have any reason to doubt these text messages on the 1th of January 2017?991
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‘You seem honest. Uh, you gave me the paper and I just have to assume that
you didn’t doctor anything. Do I have a reason to doubt it? No, I don’t think.
The next message is from you and this is in the bottom of page one. This is at
4:28 a.m. right after the erase comment.
1 didn’t write that.
No, the very last entry on the bottom of the page where it starts out from you.
You see that? It’s dated four - or I’m sorry, 1/11/2017 at 4:28 am. It’s on the
very bottom of page one, the very last entry.
Okay.
You see that?
Yes,
‘That would have been a text message from you to (NB), correct?
That's what it says, yeah.
If you look on the next page which is page two up at the top, You responded,
“LOL. Good night.” What does LOL mean?
Laugh out loud, | believe,
Why would you put something like that in a text response?
I don’t know.
And then her response, just to finish out this text string, it's at 4:28 a.m. She
sends you an emoji. Do you see that?
Yes.
Do you remember receiving the emoji?
I don’t remember receiving any of these text messages so that wouldn't be any
different.
Okay, Let's stay on page two. The next string of email - or I’m sorry, text
messages start on January 15, 2017. Do you see that?1036
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Yes.
‘And again, I’m gonna ask you, did you know who (HH) was at this
time?
I don’t know
Okay, Be alittle bit more clear, you don’t know who it was or you don’t know
if you knew who it was?
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was working with. Ifit was, hey, I want to fuck you I would assume that was
not somebody I was working with, So just randomly when I would get the text
message I didn’t always know who it was but when I read the content I
figured out who it was.
So is it safe to say - and going back to page one, and I’m not putting words in
your mouth, I'm just asking a question. On page one, look at - one, two, three,
Tour, six. The sixth message - well, actually start out at the third message.
“Well, you have a good night, Mister. Just know you're gonna fuck me this
weekend. Nighty night.” Do you see that message?
Yes.
Who other than (SII) would ever send you a text like that?
I don’t know.
Have you ever gotten a text like this?
Oh, yeah.
You have?
Yeah. I mean, Ihave a private life, you know.
All right, Other than your wife have you gotten these texts by anybody else on
your phone?
Sure,
Anybody that you know?
Yeah.
Anybody that works here?
Is that relevant?
I'm gonna ask the question.
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Not talk about what?
Uh, whether somebody who works here has ever texted me that.
Well, that’s a simple question, yes or no.
I been here for 20 years - 19 years, you know?
Well, let’s focus in on February and January back in then. Who other than...
Did any - did anybody in January of that year text me that they want to have
sex with me, no, Um, not that works here.
‘Okay. Well, let me rephrase the question, Other than (7).
would there have been any other person that would have texted you something,
like that?
Sure.
More than one?
Possibly.
Did you know who they were?
I mean, I - yeah,
But in this particular case you don’t know if it was her or not?
Correct. Well, I'm assuming it was her. That's why we're here talking.
No - no. I'm not assuming, I kind of want to know what you know.
What's the question’
My question is, you get a text message like this from anonymous source or
from a person you know is (IINIIMIBD. If it’s an anonymous source who did
you think it was?
I don’t know if I had a thought. Um...
Would it be safe to assume that you knew this was (IN)?
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of the question.
Ifyou didn’t think it was (IMB) then why did you tell her to erase it or
tell this person to erase it?
Well, I didn’t - I'm talking about - you're talking about whether I thought it
‘was at 4:25 (NINN) and then you say, well, if you didn’t know it was
why at 4:27 or 4 - 4:26 or 4:27 did I say erase it. Well, when I got
the text versus when I responded to the text, there’s two thoughts there.
T'm not understanding what you're saying. Can you explain that to me?
Well, when I received the text I hadn’t yet responded to it. So you're asking
me why I did a response when I first got the re- why - why I made that
response at - at a minute or two minutes later when I received the text. I didn’t
make the response until after I got the - got the text.
Lunderstand that, Let me see if I can see a tad bit more clear in my question. If
you believe this to be someone other than (QIN) why did you text the
crase comment in the very next text message from you?
I don’t know. I don’t know who I thought it was at the time so.
So these other people that have texted you graphic texts you've told them to
erase it as well? Is that what you're telling me?
I may have.
Do you know that for a fact or are you just saying you may have?
I don’t know any of this for a fact.
You don’t know any of these text messages?
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Well, again, are you disputing anything on these records?
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yeah. Um...
Okay, what words am I putting in your mouth?
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All right, Well, let’s move on, We're gonna go to the text messages starting
‘on January 15, 2017 which are on page two, Do you see that, sir?
When was it?
January 15, 2017 at 7:56 p.m. Do you see that, sir?
Yes.
Were you working that day?
I don't know.
Let me show you a roster dated January 15, 2017. Would you take a look at
that, sir?
Yep.
Do you have any reason to doubt that record?
I'm on the roster as working.
So you would have been working at 7:56 p.m. on January 15, 2017, is that,
correct?
‘Yes.
A text message comes in to you, starts out, “WTF did you tell Neil? He went
on a liking spree on my Insta and private messaged me. What did you do?”
Did you know who that text was from?
I- I don’t know. I- I probably did.
What does that mean, sit?
Well, I'm assuming I did because the next text says, “I never had a
conversation about you,” so that would imply that I knew who you was. I
don’t recall this conversation.
So what you're saying is - and correct me if I'm wrong me if I'm wrong, that
on the 15th of January 2017 you knew that this was (IEEE) texting you, is
that correct?
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who it was or not. I'm assuming I did because of my response, but I don’t
know what happened, uh, you know what, I was thinking back then at - I don’t
know if I remember who it was or not.
Who would be Neil, if you know?
Well, from looking at the rest of the records I’m assuming it would be Neil
Giansanti.
And who is Neil Giansanti?
He was a sergeant here.
Do you know any involvement Neil had with (a)?
Not until I read this record. Actually not until I heard that he was in the IA
thing.
You didn’t know about her involvement with Neil prior to - prior to that? The
‘comment to you back to her is, “I never had a conversation about you.” What
does that mean?
‘That I never spoke about her to Neil.
Okay. Would it be safe to say that you knew for sure that it was z=
with that particular comment?
I wouldn’t say anything’s safe to say. I mean, you're - you're asking for
assumptions and I'm not doing that.
Well, let me ask you this, how could you say you never had a conversation
about you if you didn’t know who the you was?
You're asking me for a factual answer that I don’t have. I'm - let me - let me
make this very clear. For the record, I’m looking at these text messages and I
don’t recall the series of text messages that are in here. I - I - I don’t recall the
dates. I don’t recall the times. I don’t recall anything definitive about this. I'm
going off of the records that you're providing me and you’re asking me do I
remember these things, no, I don’t remember these things.
Alll right. I hope you understand I’m just going through these...
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1307 A: .-.but my answer's not gonna change and your asking me the same question
1308 didn’t ways. The answer's not gonna change. I don’t remember them. I could
1309 assume if you want to base this entire investigation off of assumptions and,
1310 uh, not good - good answers, then yeah, let’s do that. But...
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Going back to the text messages on January 15, 2017, the next message is,
“I'm not -" this is again from (IMP), “I’m not mad. He just said he’s
heard that I'm a bad girl and among - amongst other things. Ha ha. I just don’t
know where he got this input from.” Do you remember that?
I don’t know,
Next message from (INNNMNM) again at 8:05 p.m, “But what are you doing
Jater tonight?” Do you remember that?
don’t know. I don’t - I don’t specifically remember any of these text
messages.
Well, on 2/7/17, which is the next string of text messages, this is at 1:32 am.
Were you working that particular day, on 2/7?
If you - do you have a roster?
Ido,
Yes.
And what time were you working on that particular day?
It shows that I was working, um, 6:00 at night to 6:00 in the morning on that
roster.
So if this text came out at 1:32 a.m. you would have been working?
1 assuming I didn’t go home early or, uh - you know, assuming I stayed for
that entire shift I would have been working.
‘The text messages says, “Hey, what's up?” Do you remember that?
Again, I'll tell you I don’t remember any of these text messages. I have no
direct recollection.
Okay. Let’s go to the next string of text messages which were on the 8th or
February. Do you remember those text messages strings?
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Just say no.
No.
I'm gonna show you a roster. Were you working on the early hours of 2/8/17?
T'm on the roster as working,
‘And what was your zone?
Zone 10.
‘And where would that encompass?
Um, from the police department to the beach all the way up from San Marco
Road to, um, The Boat House Motel.
Would Tigertail Beach be in part of your zone that particular evening?
Yes.
Okay. Take a look on page two of the text, the very last text on 2/8/17 - or the
very first text, I'm sorry, at 1:19 a.m, The text from (HII to you
comment was, “Howdy.” You see that?
At the bottom, yes.
Yes. The next text message is from you at 1:20 a.m. It appears your response
was, “What up?” You see that?
Yes.
Do you remember that?
Ihave no recollection of any of these text messages.
‘The next text message is from (UNNI) at 1:20 a.m. right after that, “What
up.” comment was, “Not much. Do you want to meet up later?” Do you see
that?
Yes.
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‘The next text message appears to be from you at 1:22. Comment, “Sure. I'll
be over near your place in the outside lot.” You see that?
Yes.
Do you remember that particular text message?
Thave no recollection of any of these text messages.
Do you know where I) lives?
Ido.
Where does she live?
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And then the next text message is at 12:30 a.m. from (INI). It says,
“Okay.” See that?
Yes.
You don’t remember that?
Thave no recollection of any of these text messages.
The next text message is at 1:31 a.m. again, from (NNN. “Where are
you at?” You see that?
Yes,
Do you remember that?
Thave no recollection of any of these text messages.
At 1:32 am. there’s a text message from you to that number, which has been
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Do you remember that message?
Thave no recollection of any of these text messages.
In your vocabulary that you text what would “OMW” mean?
I don’t know.
You don’t know what that means?
It could mean a lot of different things.
‘What does it mean to you?
Uh, doesn’t mean anything to me.
And the very last message on that particular string is, “Okay.” Do you see
that? And that’s from (NIBH to you.
That’s what it says.
Do you remember that?
Thave no recollection of any of these.
Now we've already established that you were working this particular evening
on the 8th, correct, early morning hours?
If that's what the roster says I’m - if I didn’t go home early then - and I'm on.
the roster then that means I was working.
Okay. I'm gonna show awe couple documents here and you have them
provided in your file. And they're actually some GPS records I want to talk
about. And I'm gonna show you one that's dated 2/8/17 at 1:17 a.m, Duration
is 14 minutes and from what I understand that means the vehicle was
stationary for 14 minutes. Could you take a look at that please?
Mm-hm.
‘That's been identified as your vehicle. Would you have a reason to doubt that,
that’s your vehicle?
I'd - I can’t intelligently speak about, um, whatever this document is. I don’t -
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Here’s an aerial photograph of that GPS record. Would that be an area in
which you live?
It would.
It's on the same street?
Yes,
Again, I'm gonna show you another GPS record and this was on 2/8/17 at
1:37 a.m. Duration 13 minutes. Would you take a look at that. Do you know
where that is?
Es
Do you know what's located in that area?
I'm gonna show you...
..Where she lives.
‘an aerial photograph. Would that be the area corresponding to that GPS
record?
Do you know why you would be there at 1:37 a.m.?
Yeah, I used to go there regularly.
For what?
Um, that parking lot right there, I would sit in that parking lot - actually right -
right next to that tree and type reports, um, you know, finish - finish up my
paperwork, do whatever I was doing, you know, depending on what activity
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Quite often, Um, either - either right here. I mean, I have like kind of - and
every - you're a police officer, every police officer has their little holes that
they - that that's where they do their paperwork. That's someplace they ean go
without interruption. Um, you know, and you got them randomly around the
island. Um, you know, I used to go right here to Veteran's Park. I used to go
right there to, um, right in the parking lot of where that church is right next to
that tree. Um, I used - you know, it’s right next to the 7-Eleven. Um, we'd
hhang out at 7-Eleven quite often. So, you know, I don’t - [ don’t doubt that
that’s accurate.
I'm sorry?
I don’t doubt that that's accurate that I was there, That's.
And you...
That's one of the places where I frequent.
And you knew QI) lived there?
Well, it's - to say she lives there is quite deceiving, It - maybe they own the
same property but it’s, you know, um, is
polar opposite of where that is. It's not - yeah, it's the same property I guess
but so ‘s
Did you ever.
Actually I used to sit in the cemetery too so.
Did you ever mect JINN) at any I'm on this particular - and I'll
call road patrol or director patrol, whatever, on any occasion at this location?
Did you ever meet her there?
‘Um, no. There was times where she - when she was coming back onto the
property she had to pass there, um, there’s been times where she pulled up
next to me, Um, there was, uh - I don’t know, one or two times where she
would be circling around, Whenever | would be in Veteran’s Park she would
circle around to see who it was. Um,
Do you know if you met her on this particular evening?
I don’t recall
The next record I’m gonna show you is dated 2/8/17 at 1:54 a.m. Duration is
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location is?
It’s over near Tigertail Beach.
Do you have any reason to doubt the accuracy of that record?
don’t - I don’t know. It - I mean, if it’s - are you saying that’s where it says
my car was?
Correct,
Okay,
Do you have my reason to doubt that record?
No.
‘The next record Im gonna show you again is from 2/8/2017 at 1:55 am.
oe ‘one hour, four minutes and 20 seconds. Could you please take a look
Looks like it’s the same place.
And I'm gonna show you the aerial photograph of that. Can you identify that
area?
Tigertail Beach.
Do you know why you were there for an hour and plus on that particular
evening?
don’t. Um, might have been using the restroom or typing a report, doing
some paperwork. Ihave no idea,
Now are your reports supposed to be completed at the end of your shift?
Well, that’s kind of a- a loose rule.
But are they supposed to be completed at the end of your shift?
I don’t know if- I don’t know what the rule is on that now.
If I - well, I'll just show you the record. This is an event documented on
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Isee my name, yes.
And that indicates that you did - what is a COPS?
A foot patrol.
And your records indicate that you had four foot patrols that evening, Do you
see that?
Mm-hm.
At this particular time in the evening does it show where you were out at - at
Tigertail Beach? Are any of those addresses corresponding to Tigertail Beach?
No.
Did you get out and walk around at Tigertail Beach? If you remember on this
particular...
don’t know.
..evening? When you check out at a location to do paperwork or in a location
for over an hour is it common to put on your documents that you're out on
foot patrol or COPS?
Not always.
No?
Not always.
Well, you did it four times that night, correct?
Mm-hm.
Do you know why you didn’t log out at Tigertail Beach?
1 - if you're - if you're saying that I was only at four places in 12 hours, I
mean, I'm sure there’s a lot of places I didn’t log out at.
Do you normally not log out if you're at the place for over an hour?
Well, yeah. I stay in service for calls.vi
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‘Then why is it you would log in these particular locations on that particular
evening and not Tigertail Beach?
Probably because I was doing something that I didn’t want to be in service for
a call. I'm - I'm guessing. I don’t recall the day.
Did you meet (QIN) at that particular location on that particular
evening?
I don’t recall the day.
Okay. On February 8th, this particular evening, did you meet Si
MM) 2 Tigertail Beach at 1:37 a.m. thereabouts.
If you remember.
No, I that's what I just said. I don’t recall the day.
Do you - the day what? I'm sorry.
I don’t recall this day,
Okay.
I don’t have recollection of the details of this day.
Have you ever met (SIN) at Tigertail Beach at any time
whatsoever during your duties as a law enforcement officer while on duty?
Yes,
For what purpose?
Well, I didn’t meet her there. She showed up. Um, when I was walking out of
the bathroom she was hiding in the shadows and that is actually the day that I
got alittle bit more firm. She scared the hell out of me. And that I got mad and
at her and I said, “Listen, you need to cut this shit out and, you know, don’t
come around me. Don’t - don’t, uh, don’t text me. Don’t come around mé
Don't be cute with me. Don’t be inappropriate with me. I'm married. You're
in the same - same grade as my son. I can’t be around you. You don’t know
how to take a hint and stop, uh, you know, communicating or trying to
communicate with you.
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It could have been.
Did you ever tell anybody about that particular conversation with (Madeline)
as far as you didn’t want her to text you or follow you or do any of that?
I don’t remember.
Was she stalking yo
She, ub - it was not out of the ordinary for her to show up places that cops
were and, uh - you know, whether it would be a coincidence or I heard about
her popping up on traffic stops that cops were on. Never with me. Um, you
know, but you just hear, you know, guys talking and - you know, I didn’t have
problems like that, um, you know, where she interfered with my work but,
yeah. She would quite often just show up somewhere. Um, she knew what car
number you drove and she - she told me that she knew what car number I
drove and, you know, that’s why she would make a big circle around and
when she identified the car number that’s when she came forward.
But we don’t know when this conversation was, correct?
Well, I don’t know the timeframe of any of this, Um...
Okay. Did you ever tell Sergeant Inlow about this particular stuff that was
going on with Cm?
Um, after Sergeant Inlow had already resigned, um, there was conversation,
uh - well, didn’t tell him that, Um, [heard during his investigation that it
popped up that officers had made it very clear that she was engaged in
inappropriate activity.
No, my question is to you though, did you ever tell Sergeant Inlow while she
‘was employed here about the issues, in your words, that (NINN) was
following you and sending inappropriate text, did you ever have that
conversation while he was working here?
Um, one-on-one, no.
Did you ever have a conversation with any other employee of the agency
related to IT)?
No.
Did you ever complain to anyone not related to the Marco Island Police
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No.
You've never met her as far as you know?
I don’t think
‘Why would she say that she knew about those particular sexual rendezvous?
Thave no idea.
So (D's lying?
Absolutely.
And (SE's lying?
don’t even know who (SINE is.
It’s her sister.
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You read her statement, correct?
Yeah.
She says that she knew about the relationship you were having with
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She didn’t say she knew anything directly.
Well, not directly but indireetly,
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her,
Mm-hm.
‘And that’s what she relayed to you.
You saw that...
But [ have no idea who she is.
‘You read that in there, correct?
| read that (QUININE) told her something that she told you, which is no
different than (NNN) telling you herself.
So let’s sum up this entire case. At not any time whatsoever as a police officer
with Marco Island Police Department did you have any form of sexual
relations with (IRN) whether on duty or off-duty?
Never. Never on duty, off-duty. Never.
And just to reiterate, we don’t know whether you knew that it was (NI)
with these text messages or not, just to reiterate?
Listen, I cannot tell you - I cannot intelligently speak about what I did or
didn’t do in this window of time, but what I can definitively say ~ and
probably the only thing I could definitively say right now, is that I have never
had any sexual relationship with that girl. I don’t know what I did on those
dates. I mean, I have to kind of go by the fact that you guys know what you're
doing with investigating and - and dates and charts and everything else. So, I
‘mean, I don’t know what I - what I was doing but I know what I wasn’t doing
and I wasn't engaged in any time of sexual activity with that girl. In fact, for
ight years I've been with the same woman and never strayed. So, yes, that’s
my answer.
Do you mind if we take a quick break?
Of course. Not a problem,
The time now is 3:58 and we're gonna take a brief recess. We will leave the
recorder running. Do you want us to step out or you want to step out or?
Um, well, probably be easier for you ‘cause there’s nowhere for us to go.
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‘We'd kind of just hang in the - in the lobby. That would be great,
Need anything while I’m out?
No, sir. Thank you, Captain. (Unintelligible) a copy of this, I guess we do
have to (unintelligible), yeah. I guess that’s gonna be just used to
(unintelligible) your statement, but then they would have recorded their
conversation. Nobody can stay in here. All right.
| just thought they were gonna do that.
Yeah. So (unintelligible). Well, this is (unintelligible).
Make sense?
‘Yeah, because, um, (unintelligible).
‘Yeah, we realized we couldn't speak either ‘cause the tape was running. I was
gonna say I guess both of us would have had to step out either way.
Um, if you want to go and get back on record or whatever I'd like to clarify
something, um, before we get into next question if that’s okay.
Absolutely. Well, let me put the time on it. The time now is 3:57. I think I
may have said the wrong time before. It was 3:48 when we broke, It was now
3:52. Mr. Hennings, did we ask you any questions or make any comments
while we broke?
No.
Thank you, Would you like to clarify something?
Yeah. Um, earlier you had asked me if I had conversations with, uh, you
know, anybody else there or reported this behavior to - to anybody cise. Um, 1
didn’t have the one-on-one conversation, Um, it was kind of a collective
thing. Just a, you know - she was what a lot of the guys would call a -a I think
(unintelligible) a “badge bunny” where she would follow cops around
throughout the course of the night. I - I did have a one-on-one conversation
with my wife about it. I'd get home in the morning and I'd wake her up in the
moming, because she'd get set for work as I was going home, and I'd actually
have full on conversations about this girl when this stuff was going on, Also
collectively as a - as a, um - um, a squad, you know, in roll call, in passing,
you know, going back and forth, crossing each other's paths. It was kind of a
common thing that she would follow cops around, you know. So, yeah. The1981
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conversation had occurred, um, but as far as me officially reporting something
‘or whatever I - I don’t know what the criteria is on...
But did you ever wage your complaint with anybody?
Asa victim, no. Uh, if that’s what you - I’m not really quite sure how you're
asking me 50...
Well, I'll - I'll be more specific. Did you ever tell anybody - and again, ‘cause
you brought it up I'll just clarify, did you ever tell anybody, supervisor,
coworker or anybody here at Marco Island Police Department that she was
stalking you?
No, I never claimed to be a victim of anything.
Did you tell anybody at Marco Island Police Department and/or supervisors
that she was harassing you?
Inever filed a complaint on - on (EN), uh, (IEE), no.
Did you ever tell anybody at Marco Island Police Department and/or any
supervisors that she was sending you any explicit text messages?
No, I don’t think so.
| want to go back to something we discussed a little while ago. You had
‘mentioned that you have the same cell phone cartier as you did back in
January and February 2017, That's correct?
Do I have?
Same cell phone carrier? (Unintelligible) Verizon I think you mentioned?
Yes.
‘We would like a copy of all text messages from December 1, 2017 through
the end of February 2017, so that would be basically a three month period.
Mm-hm,
In there. And we would ask that you provide your phone or text messages to
accommodate that request.
It’s not an order. It’s a question.2026
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Orders that person here.
“Cause I will tell you that I need to know whether it’s an order or not and, you
know, whether it's a request. And just so you know, if it’s an order it will
obviously be dealt with in a different sense and I think you guys need to check
“cause you don’t pay for his phone and you don’t give him any money for his,
phone and you don’t do anything with his phone so I don’t think you have
access to his phone,
(Unintelligible),
But you guys - just as long as you put it on the record what you're doing I'll
respond accordingly.
Can we step outside a second?
Can we step out?
Of course. Of course.
We're gonna take a break now. It is 4:00 o’clock. We'll be right back
Gotta put it on the record. We'll see. Listen, they’re probably not gonna give
it to you any - Verizon, they don’t do that stuff. I’s very hard to get phone
records, even for you. Trust me. Let’s see if they order you.
(Unintelligible),
Hmm?
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‘They can. (Unintelligible) just come back,
‘The time now is 4:02 p.m. Mr. Hennings, did we ask you any questions while
on break?
No.
ust to clarify we - we want to even - even more narrowly address the cell
phone records.
Okay.
And this would satisfy our request is that the times of December 1, 20172071
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through the end of February 2017 be produced to show text messages that
were sent or received from the phone, however, you're able to redact any and
all text messages to and from that aren’t related to this particular individual's
specific number that is on the request. That way we don’t want any personal
text messages. We only are interested in text messages from [i
MEM) anid the number, we can provide that to you. We only want them for
that three month period.
Well, that would be absolutely what we would need to even again facilitating
that request. We don’t have that information and obviously we'd want to
make sure we can get the right one. But, okay, we understand, Just from that,
number.
Yes.
Okay. And you're saying it’s a request at that point or an order?
‘You - this is Captain Rich Stoltenborg. Uh, both. First the request.
Okay. All right. Well.
We think it’s a reasonable request. I mean, we don’t really want to go there
and order you but if - if- if we have to we do believe we're on solid grounds
for that narrow purpose. And again, you understand why we want this
information,
No.
And why it’s relevant. Obviously, you know...
(Unintelligible).
You were looking at this sheet. You were saying | don’t even know what this
is. I'm taking you at your word that this is - is what itis. We want your side of
the text messages and - and that's...
‘Well, you have my side.
Wait - wait - wait. We understand.
Okay.
‘We'll discuss and then we'll obviously get back to you.
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Interviewer Ken Afienko
'5-21-18/2:35 pm
Case #MIPD-1A-18-003
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Absolutely.
Officer Hennings, do you feel that you were treated with the police officer -
treated within the Police Officers’ Bill of Rights?
Yes,
Except for the issue that we raised at the inception of this hearing as far as it
relates to your questioning and making sure that that narrow portion is - is
dealt with, particularly that right, yes, sir.
Well, let me follow up. Are you claiming any Police Officer Bill of Rights
violation as of this interview?
Again, as we said at the beginning, um - um, Mr. Afienko, um, we are
concerned about your role and overall control of the statute and how it has no
enforcement for you but as far as what we've been provided I have not
requested an enforcement hearing and I haven’t raised a claim of a violation at
this point.
Officer Hennings, have all the - all the answers that you have given to all the
questions that I have asked been the truth to the best of your knowledge?
To the best of my knowledge.
Officer Hennings, do you feel that you violated the charges that I articulated
in the beginning of the interview? Do you have that you violated any of those?
No, ‘cause | didn’t do it
Do you feel that there’s anything I failed to ask you that you would like to add
to this statement?
Not at this point. Thank you.
Just an admonishment here, It's not a question. Department directives prohibit
any member of the department from disclosing any information obtained
pursuant to an investigation, including but not limited to, the identity of an
member of the investigation and the nature of the questions asked, information
revealed or documents furnished in connection with the investigation before
such complaint, document, action or proceeding becomes a public record as
provided in state statues. Violation of this prohibition shall subject the
member to disciplinary action, up to and including termination of
employment. Do you understand that, sit?2161
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Q ‘This now concludes the interview. The time now is 4:06 pm.
‘The transcript has been reviewed with the audio recording submitted and it is an accurate
transcription.
Signed Capt Latent Léiloebug
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