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This document summarizes a chat session focused on developing trading expertise. The speaker discusses research showing that expertise takes many years of gradual improvement through deliberate practice of specific skills. Key factors that contribute to expertise include natural talent, early interest and mentorship, extensive practice, high-quality practice involving feedback, and multimodal learning. The speaker advocates breaking down trading into skills and "drilling" traders through practice, as is done in fields like sports and the military. Developing expertise requires training under challenging conditions to build mental toughness.

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L BR Session

This document summarizes a chat session focused on developing trading expertise. The speaker discusses research showing that expertise takes many years of gradual improvement through deliberate practice of specific skills. Key factors that contribute to expertise include natural talent, early interest and mentorship, extensive practice, high-quality practice involving feedback, and multimodal learning. The speaker advocates breaking down trading into skills and "drilling" traders through practice, as is done in fields like sports and the military. Developing expertise requires training under challenging conditions to build mental toughness.

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Training Traders for Success

Transcript of Chatroom Class for Linda Raschkes Traders


July 08,2002
lindarasc: [Link] Brett is working with the people in MIT in sharing different thoughts
and putting together questionnaires,
lindarasc: [Link] and today he is going to talk about subject that uses his paper that we
posted for you as a departing point!
lindarasc: [Link] So...
lindarasc: [Link] Welcome back Brett!
brett: Hello, and thanks for having me back.
brett: I think I'll start by introducing the topic for the day...
brett: Then by getting into the main ideas...
brett: And perhaps we'll have some time for questions/comments that can be sent to a
moderator...
brett: And forwarded to me.
brett: In this class session, I'd like to focus on issues of training for expertise...
brett: So I won't be talking about the current market or ways of analyzing the market...
brett: Anyone interested in that can go to my weblog which is linked at
[Link]
brett: Today the focus is on how people develop expertise and become proficient at what
they do.
brett: I have been looking at sports, games of skill, the military, music, etc...
brett: To try and identify what makes people truly great at what they do...
brett: With the idea that we might be able to abstract some of these principles and ideas to
the training of traders.
brett: As we'll see, this will nicely take us to the theme of the article: OODA.
brett: An excellent book on the topic has been written by K. Anders Ericsson...
brett: He has studied experts in various fields and studied how they became experts...
brett: Here's an interesting quote from his research:
brett: "The acquisition of expert-level performance in a domain is very difficult and takes
many years...
brett: with only gradual improvement even under the best circumstances. The key
problem for a beginner is to...
brett: identify a sequence of training tasks with attainable learning goals that will
eventually lead...
brett: to the desired level of performance. Thus the complex and ill-defined goal of
acquiring expert performance...
brett: is broken down into a sequence of attainable training tasks."
brett: In fact, what Ericsson is referring to can be seen clearly in military training, and is
very relevant...
brett: for the development of traders.
brett: Before troops are sent into simulated battle or actual combat, they engage in a
lengthy period of drilling...
brett: Where they have to repeat certain skill activities again, and again, and again.

brett: They receive prompt and accurate feedback on a timely basis and use this in a
feedback loop to improve performance.
brett: The same is true in sports, where there is drilling of individual skills such as
dribbling, rebounding, etc...
brett: in basketball or work on various putting, driving, etc skills in golf.
brett: Expertise, Ericsson would argue, is built from the ground up, and requires a
functional breakdown...
brett: of the activity into doable skill-chunks with much practice and repetition.
brett: This is one reason I am particularly interested and excited about the research
project Linda is conducting.
brett: What she is doing is highlighting a limited number of trading skills and then
drilling traders on these...
brett: day after day in real time trading. The format of the chatroom very much fits with
what we know...
brett: about how expertise is developed.
brett: Notice that Ericsson emphasizes the *gradual* nature of skill development...
brett: In his studies, expertise is a function of *years* of deliberative practice on a regular
basis...
brett: With frequent drilling, rehearsal, etc.
brett: The best way to become a full time trader is to trade full time, because that is where
the exposure is...
brett: but the learning curve can be *greatly* accelerated if you have a mentor who can
break trading down into...
brett: component skills and assist with the drilling.
brett: BUT...
brett: more goes into expertise than drilling. In my review of research, I have identified
several (5) factors:
brett: 1) Natural Talent - there is little doubt that certain basic skills are present in some
individuals...
brett: more than others. You don't need a super high IQ to be a successful trader, but
neither can you have...
brett: a truly deficient intelligence. Similarly, there are personality traits--which have a
strong inborn,
brett: genetic component, that facilitate successful trading. Cognitive abilities are inborn
as well, to a large...
brett: degree, and we know that the capacity for attention/concentration is a major factor
in learning skills.
brett: So right away, in trading as in sports, some people start off with an advantage.
Everything else determines...
brett: what you make of the advantages you've got. And that is important.
brett: 2) The second factor important in expertise is an early, strong interest in the
activity, aided by mentorship...
brett: and encouragement.
brett: Experts aren't just interested in what they do...they seem to have a passion for it. It's
in their blood.

brett: This draws them early to the activity and sustains them through the otherwise
boring periods of practice...
brett: and the inevitable discouragements early in the learning curve...
brett: Mentorship becomes key in chanelling the talent and giving encouragement and
guidance...
brett: It is *very* difficult to find wholly self-made peak performers. Coaches and
mentors generally play a ...
brett: crucial role in the development of talent.
brett: 3) The third factor is the sheer quantity of practice. Those who become expert in
their domains practice...
brett: *a lot*. Indeed, practice is their major activity. Olympic athletes are a great
example...
brett: Their training is every day, with tremendous dedication.
brett: The sheer amount of practice has been found to differentiate people who are good
in their fields and those...
brett: who are truly great. Their learning curves are so much more advanced as a function
of greater exposure.
brett: 4) HOWEVER - The quality of practice is as important as the quantity. Specifically,
valuable practice...
brett: is highly directed and deliberate.
brett: It is dedicated to learning specific abilities, applying the abilities to real life
situations, and learning...
brett: from the results.
brett: The example given by Ericsson is the child who practices the piano simply because
the parents demand it.
brett: The quality of practice is missing...
brett: Studies of chess players who become expert find that they spend much time
studying the games of experts...
brett: They systematically compare the moves they would have made to the ones made by
the experts and learn from...
brett: the discrepancy.
brett: Quality practice generally involves working with high quality teachers against high
quality opposition.
brett: 5) A fifth factor in developing expertise appears to be a multimodal processing of
information...
brett: There are many different learning styles, and most people have strengths and
weaknesses as learners.
brett: An acronym that is useful in remembering learning styles is VARK.
brett: V = Visual
brett: A = Auditory
brett: R = Read/write
brett: K = Kinesthetic
brett: An auditory learner might pick up a lot from a lecture; a kinesthetic learner learns
by doing, etc.
brett: I have a short VARK questionnaire that I can give the group some time if there is
interest.

brett: But the key with respect to developing expertise is that information and skills are
more deeply processed...
brett: When they are processed in multiple ways.
brett: So if we hear it, see it, read it, and do it, the skill and info is more likely to be
internalized than if...
brett: we rely on one modality exclusively.
brett: This has interesting applications for training traders...multimedia is really the way
to go!
brett: This is why mentors, such as in martial arts, have students listen, observe others,
perform exercises, etc
brett: The combination of all the above makes for more effective and efficient learning.
brett: Finally, I have a 5
brett: sorry...I have a 6th factor I'll toss out.
brett: I call it "training in extremity" or TIE
brett: Successful training and development of expertise commonly involves performing
skills under highly...
brett: challenging and even adverse conditions.
brett: This is *very* true of military training, where soldiers have to practice in difficult
terrain, under hard...
brett: demands from squad leaders, etc. It is also true in coaching within sports, as
coaches create extraordinary demands...
brett: during practice sessions to prepare for the rigors during games.
brett: Even chess players will push themselves to play blindfolded or in lightning fashion
with very quick time...
brett: limits per move.
brett: By creating practice conditions that are more challenging than the normal scenarios
likely to be faced...
brett: The expert performer builds mental toughness and develops the inner confidence
that he/she can handle anything.
brett: This latter point is very very important.
brett: Training is NOT just about skill building...
brett: It is about developing one's identity within a profession/field of activity and
developing the mind set...
brett: necessary for success.
brett: Quantity of practice that is high quality under strenuous conditions is a recipe for
training success...
brett: Mentally as well as in the development of skills.
brett: Which brings us to OODA and the article.
brett: Imagine a time line of trading.
brett: At one end of the time line is a trader who places a maximum of one trade per
week.
brett: He has plenty of time to analyze the markets, conduct statistical studies, consult
charts, etc
brett: Now imagine the other end of the trading time line...
brett: The floor trader is scalping for ticks. He will place hundreds of trades in a day. He
does not have the time...

brett: to conduct lengthy investigations, analyses, etc.


brett: THE SHORTER THE TIME FRAME OF TRADING--AND THEREFORE THE
MORE RAPID THE TRADING--THE MORE NECESSARY IT IS...
brett: THAT THE SKILLS INVOLVED IN TRADING BE MADE AUTOMATIC.
brett: This is a fundamental law, I believe.
brett: As Colonel John Boyd identified, the winner in any aerial dogfight is going to be
the pilot who is speediest...
brett: in mental processing. The quick loops of observe-orient-decide-act allow the pilot
to maneuver before the opponent...
brett: can find his bearings.
brett: Speed of processing and executing skills is every bit as important as acquiring those
skills in the first place.
brett: In other words, expertise consists of taking what starts out as effortful and making
it automatic...more and more...
brett: efficient.
brett: So it is not enough to repetitively practice a skill...One must do so with ever greater
speed and accuracy.
brett: One way this is done in the military is by creating those conditions of extremity.
brett: The "Best Ranger" competition is conducted each year by the Army...teams of
Rangers (2 man teams)...
brett: are pushed to the extreme over 60 hours of nonstop task performance...
brett: including a 20-25 mile run with a 65 pound rucksack, timed assembly of a
disassembled weapon, obstacle courses...
brett: and so forth. The emphasis is on speed...
brett: The teams don't move on to challenge number two until everyone has finished
number one.
brett: That means that the speedy teams get time to rest. Otherwise, there is no rest.
brett: Once you can perform under such conditions...
brett: even the rigors of war become manageable.
brett: Because you now perform the activities in your sleep...they come
automatically...even in the most difficult conditions.
brett: I believe that we can learn much from the training of Rangers and the greats in
sports, chess, etc.
brett: Much of what we do as traders involves too little repetition, too poor quality of
practice, and practice...
brett: THAT IS MUCH TOO COMFORTABLE.
brett: If we are going to speed up our OODA loops and become automatic as traders...
brett: creating structured exercises under conditions of adversity is a promising avenue.
brett: So allow me to conclude by telling you of my personal project.
brett: I maintain a large historical database of index prices, indicators (such as NYSE
TICK), and other market statistics.
brett: I have carved the database into 5 day chunks, obscuring the dates and using altered
index values.
brett: The percentage changes from minute to minute, etc are the same, but now the index
has dummy values and I don't know...
brett: the date from which the data were drawn.

brett: I then pop up five day block after five day block and advance the screen one bar at
a time for day six...
brett: And time myself in pulling the trigger on practice trades.
brett: And when I've traded the first chunk, the next chunk pops up, and I time myself
again...and again...
brett: The whole idea is to purposely put myself in totally unfamiliar terrain (just like
Special Ops training)...
brett: and quickly observe, orient, decide, and act.
brett: My score is based on my accuracy and speed.
brett: Once I perform reasonably well, I then add conditions of adversity to the training...
brett: I must perform over longer time periods, under conditions of distraction, with real
money on the line, etc
brett: I believe there is much we can do for ourselves to speed up and steepen our
learning curves...
brett: And at the same time cultivate the mental toughness and confidence needed to size
up any market, pull the trigger,
brett: and make a few dollars.
brett: I am happy to discuss this and related topics with anyone who wants to email me.
brett: My address is steenbab@[Link].
brett: I'd like to thank you for having me, and hopefully I've stimulated a bit of thinking...
lindarasc: [Link] Hi Brett!
brett: about how you are training yourself for greatness.
lindarasc: [Link] We were discussing using a randowm number generator....
brett: I look forward to staying in touch!
lindarasc: [Link] to create random charts for you!
lindarasc: [Link] for us!
lindarasc: [Link] that would be interesting too!
brett: A lot of markets look random to me!! :-)
brett: Yes, that's a great idea.
lindarasc: [Link] But that was an excellent presentation you gave us...
brett: Thanks
lindarasc: [Link] and you are getting me motivated on a late Monday afternoon....!
lindarasc: [Link] So, let me just stop and mention to everyone..
brett: Great!!
lindarasc: [Link] if they have specific questions (I got none)
brett: Let's run an obstacle course!!
lindarasc: [Link] They should go ahead and send them to your e-mail address....
lindarasc: [Link] We will clean up a copy of this transcript,
brett: That's great...I'll get back to everyone who emails me.
lindarasc: [Link] (which is easy since Brett's spelling is perfect)
lindarasc: [Link] and we will have it posted for everyone tomorrow!
brett: Spelling is easier than trading!
lindarasc: [Link] :-)....well, I am not so coordinated on the keyboard so neither are easy
for me.
lindarasc: [Link] But, Thank-you once again, and
brett: The key is eliminating thinking...

lindarasc: [Link] if you have results from our one project trade today,
brett: Not positive thinking
lindarasc: [Link] hold off on e-mailing them to us...
lindarasc: [Link] wait till tomorrow after the close...
lindarasc: [Link] We have the grid updated through Sunday....
lindarasc: [Link] but we will update again after the close tomrorow so everyone can
see the general results.
brett: I do encourage everyone to participate in the research...
lindarasc: [Link] Point is just to have more PLUSSES in the column than mINUSES!
brett: I'll make sure you learn a lot from it...
brett: With lots of feedback of results, analyses, etc.
lindarasc: [Link] OK....and if you are not signed up yet but wish to, we will give you
instructions on how to do that tomrrow morning!
lindarasc: [Link] Thank-you again BRETT!!!!
brett: Thanks, and have a good nite!!
lindarasc: [Link] Good Night!
genghis: [Link] Good Night

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