2014
Dinesh Wadiwel (DW): I would like to start with a more personal question about the relationship of this important new book to your own research trajectories. As sociologists, what has drawn you to Critical Animal Studies (CAS)? Nik Taylor (NT): I have always had an interest in how humans treat animals and linked to that an interest in understanding how power, oppression and ideology legitimate violence toward disenfranchised others. While I think my discipline of Sociology is a strong one for examining these issues, it hasn't always accepted the study of nonhuman animals. In fact, I'd say there were (and possibly still are) many in Sociology specifically, and the Social Sciences generally, who still see it as a marginal topic. The fact that CAS scholars prioritise and centralise power and oppression and do so in investigating human relations with animals is what most appeals to me about it. Added to this, I thinkas we argued in the introduction to the bookthat CAS owes an intellectual debt to ecofeminism as well as other critical fields like Marxism and anarchism. I locate myself intellectually somewhere between ecofeminism and Marxism so CAS is a natural home for me in many ways. Within CAS, the problematising of capitalist asymmetrical relations of power and refusal to accept or condone the way we treat animals in our cultures is powerful and personally very appealing. I don't think it's possible to think about human relations with nonhuman animals without acknowledging that we treat them dreadfully and that we do so within a hegemonic framework which entirely normalises this. CAS's location among, and reliance upon, other theories like ecofeminism which highlight the intersectionality of oppressions and their systemic nature speaks very loudly to me. Richard Twine (RT): I was drawn to CAS as an intersectional space that traverses academia and social movements for provoking, contesting and transforming the routinised status quo of animal use. As we make clear in the book CAS existed in various senses prior to its explicit naming. My personal path to CAS was via the 1990s writings of intersectional ecofeminists so I was, firstly, an ecofeminist, and sociologist in training during that time and then, at the start of this century, as I moved into academic jobs, came to inhabit the space of CAS with that biography. I know a lot of CAS people foreground anarchist philosophy, and that is important, but it has not been personally important to my trajectory. I am still very much writing in those other spaces like ecofeminism. I think it's important that ecofeminism continues to grow and outlives the largely unfair reception it received from academic feminism in the 1980s and 1990s.