I have occasionally done career-related presentations to new faculty through various mechanisms, most recently a NIH-funded program run by investigators at SDSU called ASSET. One of the things I always try to emphasize is the amount of work it takes to sustain a NIH-funded research laboratory. Work, meaning the number of grant proposals it is necessary to submit for consideration. Elements of this can be found in a recording of a presentation I did for UCSD’s Center for Faculty Diversity and Inclusion in 2021. Back in 2016 I wrote a blog post attempting to outline my grant submission and success numbers up to that point in time. As I always say, I don’t know how hard anyone else works at this, but I get a lot of rejections for every precious interval of funding.
The DrugMonkey blog has discussed the cumulative probability of getting one NIH R01 award in the service of making similar points about the necessary grant-submitting vigor. The latter one mentioned 15-18 R01 proposals over a four year period as being a reasonable target. Apparently this freaks some people out.
These discussions, in person and online, have a tendency to include newer scientists, postdocs and Assistant Professors, who wonder with dismay how one can have so many grant ideas as to support this rate of application to the NIH. In another post on this blog quite a time ago, I addressed how I navigated our interest in the cathinone stimulants from a first proposal submitted in October 2010 to our first R01 award on the topic in September of 2016.
I thought I would review how one of the through lines of my grant writing activity came about.
It summarizes my interest in examining the consequences of drug exposure in the adolescent developmental period.
This was initially crystallized as grant-fundable by the appearance of an RFA which was right in my lab wheelhouse at the time. It was about lasting behavioral consequences of adolescent alcohol exposure in non-human primate models. Literally the only part of this that we were not already working on was the alcohol part, and a alcohol focused postdoc had just joined my lab. I put in a R21 (Exploratory / Developmental) proposal. It was not funded, but the amended version put into a regular section was funded. Eventually we managed one interval of R01 support (after 3 tries) which was not continued (one try, then abandoned). These interests naturally led to pursuit of funding on the lasting behavioral impact of adolescent cannabis exposure, leading to one interval of funding of a component of a P20 Center (two tries) and one R01 (plus a substantive Supplement adding alcohol to the THC). There were two tries at a P50 Center follow-on (P20 awards can be viewed as the R21 of Centers) that were not funded and my R01 was in essence my component for the P50 attempts.
The alcohol R21 era was accompanied by three R21 attempts to examine the lasting effects of ADHD medications, all of which failed to be funded. A colleague of mine landed a U-mech more or less in the same space so I never really threw down on this. So much for my attempt to diversify* into another IC, the NIMH.
It was thus no surprise that my interest in the lasting effects of drug exposure during adolescence would continue to fuel my NIH grant proposals. This came back once my laboratory had switched over to rat models and a bigger interest in drug self-administration as the key outcome consequence. As far as I can tell, I put in my first proposal on the lasting effects of adolescent THC exposure in rats in for October 2019, of course including a relevant NIDA Notice of Special Interest (NOSI). I was busy with other submissions so the amended version only went in for July 2021, under a new NOSI. Both Not Discussed.
Not only were these linked to my prior interests from the monkey lab years, we’d also been working on e-cigarette vapor inhalation methods of drug delivery. So this method of exposure, and the corresponding translational link to what the kids these days were doing, was an overlapping and supporting (read: preliminary data) interest.
Proposals on the lasting effects of nicotine (July 2020, ND) and nicotine and THC were submitted (Oct 2021, ND; a new one for Fall 2022, ND). Again, Venn diagram overlap with the e-cigarette interest and the reality that adolescent nicotine exposure was zooming up because of the coolness of vaping. At this point I was also pursuing funding on partially overlapping interests from the TRDRP. I was fortunate enough to get funded in July of 2023, ending attempts at NIH funding on this topic. For now.
By this time we had one (rat) publication and much preliminary data on the basic structure of examining the consequences of adolescent vapor inhalation drug exposure which lasted into adulthood. So why not keep it rolling? We had been pursuing some work on oxycodone self-administration and it seemed useful to broaden the research program within the three headed dragon of the opioid crisis.
We decided to start looking at the lasting effects of adolescent heroin vapor exposure, leading to a grant proposal submitted Oct 2022 (53%ile, amended version July 2023, ND).
There are many aspects of this core line of research that appear very intentional and scripted from the outside.
I would say rather that the notion of lasting harms caused by adolescent drug use is just a basic, core, fundamental question of our field with high relevance to the human condition. It is an area that is immensely concerning and distressful to parents and IMO we do not have fantastic answers from the science side. Sure, lots of work exists but we could use more. There are always more things to address. This is why I lean on these types of structures to some of my NIH grant proposals.
But some of this also has an element of random walk, particularly considering we have to generate proposals supported in some way by prior work. Prior work funded under other projects that may not be directly applicable. But they have overlap and areas of intersection. Yes, I have to be creative about how available preliminary data support new proposals. But…that’s the job.
In behavioral work, there are several domains of outcome measure. Drug self-administration is one of our important focal outcomes. And we’re also interested in different drugs, all of which are self-administered. So maybe the adolescent exposure to one drug might be applied to the lasting self-administration of several other drugs. Maybe we have a bunch of overlapping circles of interest such as how THC may or may not alter the self-administration of opioids. THC-nicotine, THC-THC, and THC-heroin could be three separate proposals and lines of research. Or they could be integrated in some fashion. Every line of research has a little bud or a branch that points off in another direction. Sometimes, often I find, these directions form themselves into a coherent new R01-sized program of research. So I write another grant.
*this is a highly recommended strategy, btw. Staying essentially captive to one IC of the NIH throughout your career is not a good idea. Do as I say, not as I’ve done.















