Lewandowskiego Grind part 1
By:
IrmaBecx
So by this time tomorrow the new update will have dropped, and it’s time to start grinding. Not going to lie; I’ll probably drop quite a bit of free XP so I can be a tier X early adopter again, but I have to say I’m pretty curious about a few of the other tanks as well.
I don’t really grind anymore unless there’s something new added, and when that happens I’ll usually be sitting on a big cache of resources, and so it’s really just a simple “yes” or “no” question: do I want these tanks?
It would be pertinent of course, for me as a tank philosopher to grind out the latest thing, but in this case I would have done so either way. I’ve been hoping the 60TP would come to Blitz; I like that massive turret and TD caliber gun, and you have to agree it looks a little better than the boxy E100?
But there are two other tanks that I’m really curious about and it’s because I have some of my absolute favourite tanks in the game at those tiers.
It may surprise you to learn one is the tier VII IS-2. Yeah, the Chinese one. I skipped it doing the Chinese grind because it was so useless back then, but then they brought it in line with the other IS-spam, and so I kind of picked it up later so I’d have a tier VII Heavy tank. It grew on me like you wouldn’t believe; it’s just a great little tank, and you have those HEAT rounds that will punch through the upper plate of a Tiger 2.
There’s really no reason to drive any of the other IS spam tanks at tier VII unless you are grinding or you like the Berlin or Anime look.
The other is my dearly beloved WZ-111 1-4, the only 130 mm Heavy tank at tier iX. Until tomorrow, that is…
One of the defining characteristic of Polish tanks is they have big guns, and so the tier IX has a 130 mm where you would normally expect a 120 or 122 mm. Compared to the 111 1-4 it has better gun handling at the expense of DPM, but there’s more to it than that. Where the 1-4 is a fast, lightweight Heavy tank, the 50TP looks like it’s more of a hull down tank. The turret front looks like it’s stronger too, but it’s also a bigger target.
At tier VII, the top gun is a Bofors 105 mm, that’s not necessarily a “big gun”. It’s very similar to the one you get on the Leo Medium tank; in fact it’s identical except for two things: the Heavy tank gun penetrates deeper, and it’s more accurate. But the IS-2 is about as generic a Heavy tank as you can get, so I’m keeping an open mind.
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Update hving arrived, I dropped some free XP to get the first three tanks, and I’m going to start at tier VII. That’s not empty Elitism; it’s just about hopeless to get in a game in the first tank in the new branch on the first day. My 40TP Habicha therefore has 75% crew and is missing tracks and the engine, but I figured it could grind it’s own crew and modules once things quiet down.
I will say it looks like a cool little tank. Prolly going to keep it around for clan night.
So now I’m driving a fully kitted 45TP Habicha with like 85% crew and a maxed out 53TP Markowskiego back to back. The Habicha as a nice drive; it has a nice modern armour profile that’s easy to angle, eight degrees of gun depression, and it’s pretty mobile for a slow tank. My impression so far is that it’s going to be all right but nothing special. It has an almost Chinese feel to it, it’s so straightforward and unpretentious.
I was going to save my gold and grind the crew on the tier VIII as well, but I caved in almost immediately and shelled out the gold. There is a certain family resemblance between these two tanks, or three I should say with the 40TP, but I already feel like tier VIII is where the line starts to come into it’s own.
This one I wasn’t super curious about; it looks like an IS-3 to me minus the pike nose. In reality, it’s more of an Object 252u in Polish clothing; you get that very satisfying 420 alpha strike, and the armour is formidable, the lower plate especially is a tough target to hit. 40 km/h means it’s bordering on what is sometimes called a “breakthrough Heavy”. It’s been a while since I campaigned my WZ-111, and it’s actually kind of cool to be back behind the wheel of a tier VIII Heavy, even if it does smell a little of IS-spam.
How’s it going? It’s hard to say – it’s still the first day, and the gameplay has been, well; let’s be nice and call it “erratic”. Seeing plenty of new tanks out there, also plenty of seal clubbers running their favourite damage farmers. But I feel like it’s going pretty well; these tanks aren’t at all hard to drive, and I think they’re going to end up being quite popular.
The plan is, if I can grind 100K XP at tier VIII, I’ll have enough to unlock the last two tanks directly. We’ll see how long that lasts…
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But how is it really going? I am winning one game out of five, and that’s with a fully upgraded tank. It’s only 15 games yet, but it seems strange all the same. The Markowskiego is definitely powerful, there’s no reason why it should struggle this way other than the erratic gameplay I alluded to earlier.
I’ve also come up against a few 50TP Tyszkiewicza already, that one seems even more powerful. What comes to mind facing it isn’t so much Chinese tanks as Russian ones; I’ve gotten quite a few completely bullshXt bounces off the 50TP armour already.
It’s a bit of a chore, I’ll be honest. I’m not doing huge amounts of damage, but I’m still often the top performer. So after 20 games or so I packed it in and blew 250K free XP to get the tier IX instead. That means I still have a hundred thousand to grind, but I’m feeling like I’d rather do that in tier IX than in tier VIII. It can’t be any worse, right? And I’ll get to run a 130 mm.
The 50TP Tyszkiewicza looks a little strange. It has that driver’s compartment in the middle of the long, sloping front plate, and the turret actually sits behind the centreline, but I guess you’d still call it mid- and not a rear turreted tank. It’s really just the tracks sticking out at the front, but unlike on the previous tank, you have a fairly prominent lower plate weakspot. It’s also slower than the Markowskiego, but you have about the same reload; 12 seconds and change, so the DPM is a little better on the top gun. The stock gun is of course the top gun from the tier VIII, so you’ll be familiar with that right away if you don’t have mountains of free XP lying around.
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Tier IX, then. This is the one I’ve been waiting for, but it’ll be a tall order to fill the boots of either of my two favourite tier IX Heavy tanks; the WZ-111 1-4 and the Krautpanzer 70. In all honesty I don’t think it will, I’m just hoping it’ll be a pleasant drive.
The first game out isn’t very encouraging. My gut feeling is to go towards C on Yamato Harbour, but our other two Heavys go A, so I figure I’ll support them. Learned that from a Wargaming video a little while ago. But of course the entire red team go C, so before we’ve capped A, we are one tank down, spread out all over the map, and my fellow Heavys are stuck uselessly trying to fight the red campers at their spawn. No tier IX tank can fight an entire team by itself, and it’s all over pretty quickly.
At this rate, it’ll take 200 more battles to get the 60TP.
Next game on Hellas is even worse. I fire six shots that all miss or bounce, The red team drive straight through our flank, and we end up losing by 6000 damage. The third game we win by dumb luck.
But ye, it’s the start of the night shift. Business as usual. Fourth game our 60TP goes it’s own way on Normandy, and I’m soon down to a glorious 25% winrate. That doesn’t last. Ten games in I am down to 20% wins, and it’s getting tiresome. Seeing a lot of tier X games, and there are at least three 60TP in every one of them. It’s tempting to call it a night and hope things will pick up in the morning.
A few things I feel like I learned, however. The armour does work if you use it properly, meaning hull down, juking, and proper angling. I’ve not seen the armour layout in Armour Inspector, but I have a feeling when you try to facehug people, they will be able to aim down at either your flattened out front plate or your driver’s hatch weakspot.
The gun can be really derpy. I’m having a little trouble putting out damage, but I think that’s down to circumstance rather than deficiencies. Like the previous tank, the 50TP feels powerful. I’m not trying to write the definitive word on Polish Heavy tanks here, just my initial impressions, and they have been… well, ambiguous. I don’t remember struggling like this in the Swedish Heavys, or the Yoh tanks, not to mention the ST-I when I grinded out the IS-4. Is the Tyszkiewicza really all that different?
But in spite of everything, so far I have to say I like these tanks. I still haven’t driven the tier VI, but I like the look of it. I enjoyed the tier VII and mean to drive it more. The tier VIII was a pleasant surprise, and the tier IX is a great drive in spite of my struggles with it.
Looking ahead, I know I’m going to like the 60TP as well because I drove it in testing. It’s been slightly adjusted since then, but it’s still the same general idea, and I like that idea. I’m not sure I’ll end up driving it all that much; I am a Medium driver at heart after all, and my favourite tier X Heavy is the WZ-111 5A. But I do drive my IS-4 a little, and the Lewandowskiego is nowhere near as generic.
So I have to say I think the “grind”, by which I mean throwing hoarded free XP and gold at the tanks, has been well worth it. The Polish Heavy line is solid, there’s no doubt about that.
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What if you don’t have a great hoard of resources? Should you consider the Polish Heavy grind anyway?
Yes, definitely consider it. The tier VI may seem uninspiring, and the tier VII might not be that much of an upgrade, but they are classic Heavy tanks that do Heavy tank things, and when you get to tier VIII, you’ll start feeling the power of these tanks.
Sure, the 53TP has a definite touch of IS-spam, but as far as 122 MM tier VIII Heavys go, this is one of the better ones. You’ll have just about the same weapon the “King of IS-spam” 252u has; in fact it’s a little better. Aimtime is quicker, and you have two more degrees of gun depression, plus you don’t have to deal with a pike nose. Oh, and the 53TP is faster and more powerful, although it’s a bigger target. It is quite simply a tech tree tank that compares very favourably to the best IS-spam premium tank in the game.
At tiers IX and X you’ll get the big guns; 130 and 152 mm respectively (It’s actually 152.4 mm). This alone should make you take note. The only real comparison is the E100 and the VK 72.01(K), both with 640 alpha and better dispersion, but the 60TP is faster, more powerful, turns quicker, and has a thicker turret face. Also, compared to those big behemoths, the 60TP looks positively svelte.
If you absolutely must have those 40 extra damage, then the choice is clear. But if you just want a big gun on a Heavy tank, I think the Lewandowskiego is the most interesting proposition of the three, and remember it has tungsten shells that can bump up your alpha damage intermittently. I may get a VK 72 some day; I always kind of liked it, but I really like the 60TP, and I can’t wait to add one to my collection. Got the camo picked out and everything.
So was the Polish Heavy line worth waiting for? Is the hype for real?
In a word: yes. IrmBecx says get in on the action before people start murmuring about Polish bias being a thing.
I couldn’t leave it alone, so I drove a few more tier IX games on the night shift. I had the idea I might try some of those new fangled consumables, there’s been a lot of talk about the tungsten shells already. Since I drive myself into plenty of trouble already, maybe it’s not a bad idea giving the speed boost a rest.
And I don’t think it helped me win more, but I hit a few nice high rolls, and things did go a little better. At present, that’s not saying much; it’s still pretty chaotic out there. But it does sort of prove my feeling was right: the 50TP is a powerful tank, and if you press the button at the right time, those tungsten rounds are really satisfying.
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Coming back to it the next day things don’t seem to be picking up a lot; the 50TP gets bullied by the 60TP, and you are almost certain to face one or two of them every game. The tier X is faster, has better armour, and more firepower. But that’s a good thing, no? After I finish the grind, maybe I will get to be the bully?
Trying not to get sour over all my losses, I decide to try the improved gear oil instead of double food like I usually run. That should give me 6 km/h faster top speed with 9% increase in engine power. I’m still running the red can fuel for an extra 10% engine speed and turret turn rate. It certainly wakes the tank up a little, but is it worth it in the long run? I’m always skeptical of improving on bad stats, and now I’m giving up all those little improvements just to go faster, and I just switched out the speed boost for tungsten rounds.
I’m not feeling like I’m getting a huge benefit out of the tungsten, so I go back to the turbo. This is the fastest the Tyszkiewicza will ever be. But the impression I get trying it out is actually that I sort of miss the tier VIII tank; it’s more well rounded, it has a more straightforward armour profile, and if I didn’t think it was such a strange and misleading expression, I’d say the tier 50TP is “stronger in it’s tier.”
More insights? Well, the tier IX is expensive to run if you keep having bad games. You can easily spend 25.000 credits on consumables and provisions alone, that’s before firing any premium rounds, which, admittedly, I don’t do a lot in my Tyszkiewicza. 25 games in I’m about a third of the way to the coveted 60TP, and the mission turnover is minutes away. That might give me some X3 or X5 certificates, so I should have less than 50 games left.
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Doing a bit of due diligence, I log into my press account to drive the little 40TP Habicha. I felt kind of bad for it, because it’s certainly going to be overshadowed by the rest of the line and I think if people have the opportunity, they’ll just free XP past it like I did.
But at present there seems to be quite a few of them out there; I get three or four on each team. The lure of the Lewandowskiego is strong, it seems.
And it is a cool tank. It’s a little boxy; the tier VII already has a more angled armour layout and is easier to use. The 90 mm gun seems to work fine, and I had a couple of good games. Definitely going to finish grinding mine after I get my 60TP.
So this has been my first 24 hours with the Polish Heavy grind. With liberal use of free XP I am now perhaps 50 games away from finishing, and I don’t feel I have a lot more to say. The tanks are good, they really are. Some of them are going to go on to become favourites, unless of course they get nerfed into oblivion. Does anyone remember the WZ-110? It used to plow through enemy teams when it first came out, but now no one drives it anymore. After being nerfed it’s one of the worst performing, least driven Heavy tank in tier VIII.
There has been talk perhaps the new consumables are a little too powerful, so if you are aiming for those high damage max rolls as the be all and end all of your Polish tank grind, you might want to hold off a little. Otherwise just go for it; these tanks are solid.
I’ve not made friends with the tier IX 50TP quite yet, but by the time I had my IS-4, even the ST-I had wormed it’s way into my heart a bit, and I kept it around. I’m hoping I’ll get the hang of this one as well. If things go to plan, I’ll have part 2 of this paper dealing with the 60TP done in a day or two.
Stay safe out there.