2025 hardcore list of 21 linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts

Posted on by

Welcome antiX and Noir linux to the strict list, with edition 23 antiX is fully functional and lighter than ever without a trace of elogind!

        Edited:  October 4th 2025 (replacing older strict list)

This list is going to be short and there may be a sublist of distros with a medium strict standard.  We shall explain what the object is, below the short list (which we hope the community will assist in making longer as we have not been able to currently review the work of every distro and fork).

Continue reading →

The end is near … fork the end and move on X-org-files

Posted on by

Is X11 Xserver dying in a classic RedHat way, “pull the plug and let it rot advertising with 90% of tech-media on the pay-roll that X is dead!”

Read the following letter first that was axed by RedHat media then there will be some discussion of what this means

Hello,

I do not think the original post, by Enrico Weigelt, to the xorg-devel
mailinglist made its way thru, tho freebsd-x11 was CC’d.

Anyways, if anyone missed it, here it is:

Hello everybody,

this morning, Redhat employees banned me from the freedesktop.org gitlab
infrastructure – so censored all my work (not just on Xorg). They killed
my account, my git repos, my tickets in Xorg and closed all my merge
requests. And then making fun on social media about it.

Continue reading →

VirtualBox : To whom does it matter whether corporate takeover of FOSS is problematic?

Posted on by

To you?  To us? To everyone?

Let’s examine the motives and the method used to direct “clients” of corporate software to choices they might had not made to begin with, and the particular late case of VirtualBox

Why virtualbox and not qemu or other foss virtualization?  Because it is simple, easy, click and run.  Because it is offered in most popular distros complete and ready to play with, no “configuration hustle and learning needed”.

virtualbox is built on top of the Qt layer, if I am not mistaken an Oracle Inc. product built on top of Qt corporation’s products.

virtualbox 7.1.0 not only requires qt5-base it requires an internal qt5 functionality based on zstd (a facebook de/compression algorithm that sells under the illusion of Continue reading →

can systemd do ANYTHING other systems can not do? Can you transition to wayland?

Posted on by

NO!

NO, what? To which question, both?

Then what is the problem with systemd or replacing it with another system?

The quick answer is NO, but in reality one must be able to match the resources of IBM/x-RH to chase behind this dog when this dog does its best to try to shake all tailgaters away from it.  “It” wants to run throughout the system, from bios/efi/boot-loading to every click you make on the desktop with your mouse or finger touch to the touch-screen.  PRECISELY what google has done on android, for which we have no say it is a private non-open non-free system.  Monkey see, monkey do, monkey governments enforce its use, monkeys conform.  Fuck you google and fuck the state that mandates its use (I wonder if North Korean sites have google apis in them, RT do!).

HOW does this work? Continue reading →

When going gets tough those with ulterior motives find easier ways – eudev consolekit2

Posted on by

Recent excitement revolves around talk about eudev deficiencies as a replacement for systemd’s udev.  Consolekit2 having too many functionalities missing against elogind that it will eventually run out of steam.  In particular this package named libgudev requires now particular version specific udev utilities to compile and eudev has not reached this stage of development.  Developer/s said when time comes available it will receive some refreshing and incorporation of this utility.  But what is the rush?  For packages that are used to auto-discover and mount disks (particularly usb hot-plugs) and for them to be the latest of edition need this updated libgudev that eudev can’t support.

Should a community critical against systemd domination mind such dis-functionality?  Hopefully nobody here believes it should.  Didn’t we expect this to be a struggle or did we expect it to come easy?  Are there people here who think they can have the choice of not using systemd/elogind and libraries but have 100% functional Gnome or Plasma desktops and tools (gui-gadgets)?  Being against systemd is being critical of the sacrifices a system/distro should make in order to incorporate growing automation and convenience. Isn’t it?  Continue reading →

On the discussion about elogind and dbus “hate”, is there reason?

Posted on by

A vivid discussion has broken out between members of the community, whether q66 considers her/himself one or not is not our prerogative to define, or exclude anyone, about the hardcore stance against FOSS pests such as systemd, elogind, dbus, udev, etc.  So since the topic of discussion is very specific it would have been best if a topic addressed the specific issue, which is irrelevant to whether Chimera Linux belongs on a strict list of distributions without systemd or not.  The criteria about that list are very clear.  The criteria for the “gray” list are not very clear, but nobody really cares about this sloppy list of gray categorized distros, such as void, artix, and devuan. Continue reading →

FSF Richard M. Stallman and the gangsters of the globe

Posted on by

There is much talk these days about RMS, the founder of FSF returning to the board of FSF and IBM refusing to have him, popular demand, vote, or otherwise.

I could list countless articles here as a detailed research on the matter, but the plethora of them TOTALLY MISS THE ISSUE.

Who decides and how is a decision made?  Is it influence by rational arguments or is it a choke-hold maneuver that even his (RMS’s) dearest of friends can’t escape?

The rational argument by IBM, and their fellow mutually interested global giant corporations, is “YOU DO AS WE SAY, OR NO MONEY COMING TO YOU“. Continue reading →

Sabotage Linux on the “progress” of Linux

Posted on by

Since we agree with every word and punctuation in this article, we proudly republish it from the Sabotage Linux website:

When “progress” is backwards

Lately I see many developments in the linux FOSS world that sell themselves as progress, but are actually hugely annoying and counter-productive.

Counter-productive to a point where they actually cause major regressions, costs, and as in the case of GTK+3 ruin user experience and the possibility that we’ll ever enjoy “The year of the Linux desktop”.

Continue reading →

Ataraxia and the need for a stricter list of distros

Posted on by

A while ago someone I didn’t know contacted me in reddit about the list of distributions without systemd, suggesting I should add ataraxia linux.  Ataraxia Linux was very similar to kiss-linux, source based, musl, but featuring an array of init and service supervision systems available to choose.  A few weeks ago, someone (turns out to be the same person) added a comment to this blog to this more precise list of “linux distributions without systemd” and suggested I should add Ataraxia to the list, and I did.

Then a comment comes in by someone who is really going through the list of distributions and also has been reviewing the narrow list of distributions, or systems, built on musl instead of glibc.  He alerted me to the fact that Ataraxia is now using systemd as its default init system.  It didn’t strike me as odd in the beginning, even though I had recently given it a try.  I was under the impression, never tried, that systemd couldn’t be built on musl as it wasn’t even written in C.  So I asked that same guy, who turns out to be the distro owner of ataraxia, how has he  achieved this, and I got a single word response:  “patching”. Continue reading →

Everybody knows that the employer takes all the moral responsibility …

Posted on by

… the employee is just doing “his job”, and if he doesn’t do it someone else will.  Were you as tired of listening to such excuses when your colleagues were asked whether they were willing to work for the “defense industry” or surveillance agencies?  Everyone has heard this one time or another as an excuse, “I am just doing the job I am paid to do”, but rarely do we hear from those who turned the offer down.  Those who are not rich by any means, and not have high executive positions in larger organizations, and were fully capable to do much more, but not willing to violate their own principles.

WARNING:  This has everything to do with open/free software, linux, init systems, and “choices” people make.

Continue reading →

Where to move to after Arch-Linux-based non-systemd systems?

Posted on by

VD, HIV, STD, Zstd

The deeper issue here is “what is the relationship of Arch-Linux and Orwell?”

Two of the most common intrusive sites reported by linux users that are placed on top of the list of a firewall, so nothing goes in and out between their machine and those sites’ servers, are Google and Facebook.  Google on the one hand, in order to play nice against the free/open software community, has been contributing resources, information, and free/open software to improve their image.  MS purchased github, IBM purchased RedHat, or should we say they made their relationship more formal.  Some developers have fallen for it.  Facebook on the other hand is notorious of flooding the machines of their innocent and unsuspecting users with questionable code.  Facebook not only knows who you really are, what you really like, what you think and what you are interested in, in the vast majority of cases they know in real time your exact location and may even have the capability of keeping track of your moves.  Simply if you have an account on facebook and accessed it once through your “smart” phone, they know.  If you access facebook from your desktop, but on smart phone you only use your google account, they know.  They, they, who is they?  If you are really asking we can go on comments for as far as you can take it. Continue reading →