Listen up folks, this is how it is going to be from now on.
Military industrial complex: Back during the cold war business was good, we can sell weapon systems to those who can afford it to defend themselves from the evil Red East! Then we lost this buggy man, and tried to create another, Islam. Only they are so dumb they think they can have 50y old riffles on their hands and be indestructible, no air defense, simply fly over their heads and wipe them out with a bomb. Not good enough to run a business on, states must have an excuse for wasting tax-bases on ultra complex weapon systems. So neo-nazi regimes sprung up of anti-russian propaganda to choke Russia to become the new buggy man again.
Now business is picking up, austerity, dexterity, …. doesn’t matter, state leaders will find enough to waste on our industry. The buggy man had no alternative than resume the role. Stalin, Putin, doesn’t matter, it is either fight a war or be surrounded and isolated.
The free world: What? no war no gas, no gas no heat, no electricity, what about lifestyle? We will fund this neo-nazi war front against the buggy man.
Public Opinion: Shaped by 4-5 social media mass media conglomerates who eat and play golf with the military industrial complex. Writing, reading, is so old fashion. People listen and speak through professionally produced a/v media, they speak to each other with video links. Totally under control! Text, more than 250characters, bliaahhh… go away you ancient backwards thinking people!
Is MS IBM Google HP … Oracle, Qt .. part of the same club with the military industrial complex?
What do you think genius, you think merit in coding gave you systemd, dbus, and freedesktop?
What about the good old U S of A, a constitution that ensures liberty. The liberty to elect Trump as world dictator? The US is internally nothing more than a greenhouse raising soldiers to fight around the world to protect Capital’s interests. Those who grow in it are programmed to watch the flag and spend half their taxes on weapons and military budgets, no education, no health, junk food and cheap fuel to run around in circles with.
That is how it is going to be, till the end of humanity (soon) or the end of capitalism (better be sooner).
PS Putting Stalin, Putin, and the mafia in the same document and someone will think we are speaking about Void again. No we are not! We are done and happy among the hundreds banned from criticizing the uncriticizable. Carry on with your elogind desktops and dms, there is nothing to see here, not for you anyway.
PS2 Do not listen to anyone, just think, clearly, and critically, it is the only way out!
systemd-free linux community 
This entire post is a political rant against capitalism. It has little or nothing to do with efforts to remain free of systemd’s intrusions into free and open-source software. You risk alienating readers who may favor capitalism and constitutional republican government.
It doesn’t matter that I agree with the sentiments about Russia being used as a boogeyman to justify warmongering. It’s no less a political rant and in my opinion out of place here.
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I mostly agree with the OP and would assert that wanting some clearly defined barrier between free computing and politics, or trying to make them ‘non overlapping magisteria’ is part of the problem.
At a certain point, anyone wanting to continue with free computing is going to have to lift their head out of the sand and realise that there is a Leviathan forming all around them that actively wants to crash their computing objectives because they stand in the way of ‘full spectrum dominance’.
I have spent decades communicating with both the anarchist left and the anarchist/paleolibertarian right and all seem to agree that capitalism as it manifests in our world (whether or not you want to call it corporatism or crony capitalism or whatever) is rapidly collapsing the world.
If we are you to survive the coming challenges and sustain or rebuild free computing, we have to take a wider look and see what is really going on. And then tell others about it.
I applaud the OP. Yes it was a rant a very necessary one. Made me think of Howard Beale.
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Well said, and I mostly agree… howerver, in this world, if you speak that you are against capitalism, but do *not* clearify you mean crony/corporatism, then the default, and most likely interpretation is that you support communism…. which, like corporatism, is totalitarian socialism, and precisely the Leviathan you reference. As I see it, it’s not about government, it’s about freedom. It’s the choice between top down, and bottom up.
But why should anyone care how I see it. Though Leviathan is here, and sooner or later you’re going to have to deal with it… it’s not up to me if it’s sooner or later, for you, it’s up to you. Freedom. Not everyone seems to want control of their lives, but that’s the objective of open source, and the argument argument against systemd and friends.
We should stick to writing code, and making it simple and understandable so people can have control of their computers, and then let *THEM* decide what to do with that control…. even if we think we know where that must eventually go.
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This is amazingly misguided and reductionistic. To see everything as a fight beteen individual freedoms and liberalism vs communism is the tragic reason why the computing scene is stuck with its head in the sand. To assume everything mut be viewed under a liberal lens of the individual vs the collective as the society is an amazing level of ignorance and shortsightedness that no one who have read any theory besided what is related to IT and computer science will consider as nothing but fearmongering against those who are opposed to liberalism (in the classical liberal sense of liberalism).
Thankfully anyone can get books anywhere in the internet which will show there ere people opposed to liberal economics and liberal republicanism and individualism, such as Auguste Comte, existed, and were very popular before the british empire and the US washed up history and economics and forced people influenced by these people out of politics around the world along with the pseudo-socialist stalinists.
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To discuss political philosophy with native English speakers these days has become an exercise in patience and in tolerance of ignorance and misinformation. How much can a non-native English speaker take before they explode in disbelief.
The reason is that whether a Queen liked it or not, its managerial class of wealth extraction in the new world had an uprising, won, and won again (1776-1826), then developed larger and larger industry, and dethroned capital from the far west of Europe to the other side of the Atlantic. It has been one long down hill since then for the ex-empire that is about to lose even Scotland now.
The capital of capital though had its own share of trouble, called organized labor, which grew and grew in the late 1800s to place capital up against the wall and deteriorating in the 1930s. But it has been in organized reactionary mode since then, and the effects we are living in.
Communism NE to leninism/stalinism- state capitalism, or centralized militaristic state. That was both soviet propaganda for their reformed capitalism and military regime over-utilized as a lie to brand communism as “bad and evil” in the west.
If you quit thinking you are a consumer of ideology in a super-market shelf picking all kinds of brands, and focus on WHY and IF an ideology is needed, you may realize all those labels you use are useless and meaningless, and different ideology-experts/clergy use them to improve their own status. AND IF you focus on the material meaning of politics and ideology, you will realize there are ONLY TWO!
There is a system that maintains and defends inequality (not just economic, political too – decision making on public matters) and a perceived system where we have the maximum defense of equality, spread equally to all as responsibility and as a right.
The current dominant system of inequality is called capitalism (and its late stage of post-Marxian development neo-liberal transition), the system of EQUALITY will always be called COMMUNISM, and don’t let marxists (state capitalist reformists) foul you that their dictatorship of an ideological elite has anything to do with communism or EQUALITY.
Since the 50s the FBI officially and unofficially was engaged in many fronts of subversion and derailing class and social movements. They used language, among other things (murder, abduction, framing for crimes, infiltrating movements and parties) to confuse, defuse, divert, split, and weaken any form of resistance. Part of their game was inventing and redefining political terms. What was GLOBALLY known as libertarianism and as a practice in Spain’s CNT (1890s 1930s) and the libertarian principles of union and social organization, was redifined, spread and financed by FBI subversives as anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism (capitalism with little or no state, just rich thugs defending their personal unequally gathered wealth). In other words they covered up fascism and sold it as an ideology called libertarianism. Since English and American culture through language spreads through the English speaking world you find idiots buying this terminology and incorporating it from Scotland to Tasmania.
The rest of the world is less confused, it is actually laughing matter that Anglo-speakers use the term libertarianism for their closet-fascism.
Libertarians are 100% ANTI-CAPITALISTS and ANTI-AUTHORITARIANS (since 19th century)
Libertarians speak of a communism where we are all equal, we are not ruled by some ideological elite who knows best.
Libertarians are Anarchist by default, anarchists are not by default libertarian.
Libertarians will only organize under the libertarian principles of equality and its defense, they will refuse any authoritarian way, even if it is an army (the non-spoken antithesis between the libertarians of CNT and the FAI army!!!! the vanguard ruling over the revolution)
Libertarians are true communists
Not all communists are libertarians (respectfully so for the m-l proposal and antithesis)
Socialism is an economic system (therefore centrally controlled and regulated – authority and centralization of power) not a political system. Social democracy was something born as the dialectic of class struggle between workers and industry in the late 1800s and the evolution of the capitalist state, in order to survive. The reaction of this is neoliberalism, capital’s way to undermine and overpower the state so capital has direct and uncontested control of all resources and people, or people and earth (1930s-1980s).
When neoliberalism became known and spoken about, not its true nature, as rhetoric, the transition was “safely” complete, there was no way back, there was the totalitarian way or eventual revolution. Since then they are covering up the holes and brush fires left.
How does this all relate to data and computing?
FOSS
You work and produce, contribute as much as you want and can, for all, equally.
Consume only as much as you need not as much as you can. Result, there will be plenty for everyone.
It works for FOSS.
It is the very essence of communism, true communism, not forced labor and concentration camps.
FOSS is truly communism but in terms of data and information. Proprietary sw is really capitalism. Whether the state owned MS or some stock holders own it makes little difference (are you listening Leninists?)
So, hear me hear me all you Harlan County miners, whose side are you on? Equality or inequality?
Fuck the ideological garbage and the complexity of “ideologies”…. it is all about this question.
Individual freedom my ass… there was never such a thing and will never be, unless you are all alone in absolute wilderness and therefore the rest of us don’t know of your existence so you are not a political entity, or reality, you are irrelevant. The rest of us people have to live with people and therefore we realize and respect there are and must be limits to each particular freedom. Equality is the maximum amount of freedom we could possibly have.
Take it from me, a non-English native speaker.
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Just to start it out: I`m also a non-english native speaker.While i do agree that material conditions of inequality and indifference to the well being of people are real and are what causes our current problems in software (as i also think social and material problems reach reality by all its parts), i do think it was right for me to call out the main contradictions behind the liberal republican democratic view of things, because its the superstructure which holds us where we are, and its ideological underpinnings are what marx himself would call idealism (and comte, metaphysics). Yes i`m a Comtean, for the reason that for me, Saint-Simon was forgotten along with Comte as real non-liberals who looked for a fair society and were treated by anglophone philosophy as people who think differently from what they really think. And the reason i call these names is for explaining that the liberal anglo-saxonic world is shut with their heads in the sand in trying to idealize individual freedoms that do not exist for a great part of the planet under their ideological underpinnings, as they have no food to eat, or depend on old technology and are exposed to terrible sanitary conditions. There is no individual freedom without society. THere is no individual freedom without equality. There is no individual freedom before responsability. There is no autonomy without responsability, as Jurgen Habermas would say, a liberal himself.
Now what this all has to do with software and with this discussion?Firstly because i wanted to point that there were not only the imaginary “communists” or “socialists” radical classical liberals or even ancaps like to paranoically delire about. There were people before them that were not socialist and were opposed to these ideas and practical/material/social outcomes of them. Secondly because FOSS is usually seen in a individual freedom and egoistic/individualistic way and that generates friction, fraticide and manipulation of public opinions to drive interest and use of certain projects dominated by corporate oligarchic, cartel interests like IBM, Microsoft and Google. I do not disagree with you except on the element that ideology is only conditioned by material conditions. For me, as Comte said, ideology is conditioned by social relations of all classes (rich people, owners of the means of production as marx said, and the poor), institutions and the affection organic groups (such as families, friendship groups and romantic relationships). But this does not matter. Even if you come from a paradigm where we should only simplify the purpose of ideology and concepts to the material (or social) products and necessities, we will still reach the conclusion that classical liberalism and anarcho-capitalistic right libertarian ideology moves big tech and sabotages the development of software, the job market (how the fuck kubernetes brainlets are more valuable than unix sysadmins?)_ and the manipulation by neoliberal financial “markets” of the valuing of corporation shares and the influence of them and of CEOs in the R&D and production of software. FOSS is controlled by them now, as your blog mightly explains. This is why i`ve given up on linux. I`m happily situated on illumos as the interests there exist but nothing moves by them alone and there is not an IBM or an Microshit or an Crowdstrike putting spyware on the systems based on it. The same of the BSDs and very independent linux projects like those you show here. And lets stop (to you all who criticize the blog) calling the athor a communist. He is exposing the cartel and severe antitrust poblem in the IT industry. And systemd IS SHIT. please you all, stop the strawmans.
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People are not fungible:
If they are free, they are not equal.
If they are equal, they are not free.
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Equal is not defined by simmetry but by proportional means and chances.
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Are you saying you meant equality of opportunity, and NOT equality of outcome?
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The maximum freedom anyone can attain without oppressing or exploiting others is through equality.
It is not just feasible, it is commone practice. It was for thousands of years with many tribes across the globe, it has been the case with zapatista communities in the past 30y where they have autonomously lived by organizing equality.
Equality is not just economic, this is a Marxist fallacy, it must also be equality in the decision process of the community.
The only authority we respect is that of our own assembly, say the zapatistas. In this assembly any and every member of the community has an equal voice to convince all others, and this is how they decide. The federation of the communities are below in authority, they serve, they don’t dictate. It is an upside down government where the community is in the top.
Who better advocate for your freedom than yourself without anyone having more power than you or to force his decision on you.
Authoritarian civilization has concentrated history portrayal of authoritarian centralized power structures. They call that civilization to cover up for their own barbarism and inhumane history. Both archaeology and anthropology have revealed a very different story.
Nobody can call it utopia if it happened in the past and has been happening for hundreds of thousands of people for more than a generation. But our leaders, from right to left, will rather not recognize it as an example or a path. They would rather have you serve under their command, which only leads to miserable reforms of the same nightmare we are living in.
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While the word “freedom” has been heavily spammed by idealists metaphysical word players, true freedom has a very material determination. Your will to do in the physical world, your actions and their effects, can all be materially defined. What you think and imagine, as long as you are alive and your brain is functioning, nobody can control, it is by definition free. Even in your last moment in the electric chair, strapped and wired up, your mind is free, your “physical body” isn’t.
Now back to equality, most commonly referred to by Marxists as equal access to resources, a material/economic equality. You get 40sq.m of living space, and so does everyone else, you get 100l of clean water a month, just as everyone else, 2300calories, 100g fat, x….xx… protein .. and everyone is equal.
Now there is this political equality which relates to an equal participation in decision making. It can’t be global, it can’t be regional or national, it can only be communal, and it would only matter if no other decision mechanism exists of higher authority than the communal.
Within that community both freedom and equality is defined, collectively, by you and everyone else in the community. It is about the most freedom you can ever have without infringing on others’ freedom.
To have freedom without obligation to respect the freedom of others, it is not freedom. To have the freedom to consume the products of others without contributing the same amount of work to create them (whether it is beans or 5g modems) it is individualistic abuse of the tolerance others have for you.
Hitler’s idea of freedom would be to kill everyone. But we are not entertaining such freedoms, are we?
Freedom is what you can not possibly have in capitalism unless you are wealthier by far than anyone else.
Equality is what you can not possibly have in capitalism because by definition it is a violent system of inequality maintenance.
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By his logic, true communism, as he wants it, be like
a) every init is as good as every other init, you fascist
b) everyone must use the same init, otherwise inequality-capitalism-bad.
yeah, sounds like a real (FOSS) utopia. true (init) freedom!
the leftist mind is something to behold
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The politically illiterate can not separate public/common matters with private matters and freedoms.
What source of individual freedom mainstay government has state laws making “oral sex” a crime? The a-religious dictatorship of US of Capitalists.
Why would anyone care what init you use, what you are trying to prevent others from using that is a common (thus political) object of discussion.
The leftist mind is the mind against brutality, oppression, exploitation, and for life. The right mind is the diametrical opposite, it feeds on hate, death, murder, exploitation, oppression of the few on the many!
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The reality is being clearly pointed out when you read “Is MS IBM Google HP … Oracle, Qt .. part of the same club with the military industrial complex?”
These monsters are continually and tirelessly trying every possible trickery, falsehoods, false narrative to subsume all and any independent efforts which are by nature against the agenda of the corporatism rampaging across the collective west. They feed from the teat of the “military-congressional-academia-industrial complex” – support call-centers, help-desks, “cloud-sized” infrastructures, “development/coding/so-called workaround improvements” in the sustainability to suck on the same teat… all a vicious cycle – and to the uninitiated …
Recall how Microserf did all the configuring for the user because it is just too complex for the plebs… oh it is “user-friendly” with all the options already pre-configured… Another simple example of chrome browser interface… oh the features are too complex and confusing… no-worries it is all wrapped up and hidden away from the user in case he or she “bungle” things to his or her own detriment… see “we are so thoughtful and made it super easy” — its child/idiot prove now:)
It is the creep of “the ruling class” (corporatism operators/owners) via their “socio-economic-politico” to harness “computing” that suits their agenda… Recall that mantra “You will be happy you own nothing” ? How about “You will be happy without any choices or alternatives in the computing/IT/IS realm….
Please forgive me if this comes across “vague” but those who are wide-awake and manning the watch towers… they know who our enemies are!
Thank you for your very astute title “Politics, economy, and the enemy, the people and their data”
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To emphasize what you are saying, those corporate entities are trusted by idiots affected by their conditioning (brainwashing) to hide their data from government, and it is government the defines the conditions under which those entities exist. In many of them it takes many governments to underwrite their existence as one. In reality they have gained more control and authority over governments throu global banking systems (a class federation for the capitalists). The state and those corporations, through banking, are inter-related and have mutual benefits and enemies. Why would they line up with you, a consumer, against their partner (controleld partner if I may).
As rhetoric neoliberalism is very contradictory to its own nature. When they say open/free market they mean a platform where the very few can defeat and take over creating a monopoly or oligopoly (industrial cartel). When they say less government they actually mean less government in health, education, survival-utilities, transport, but more police and army, more taxation terror against the weak and less for the rich. It shouldn’t be called neo-liberalism but neo-feudalism … weak peasants under the terror of the kings’ army tax-collector. Ohhh,, … and very expensive justice systems so all cons and injustices can go unnoticed for the rich, and in injustice for the poor.
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Hello agent Smith
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THere *has* been way to much politics in Linux software development lately.
Come to think of it, it was exactly this trend of software developers pushing their ideology on users against their will that drove me away from systemd, logind, pam, udev, etc.
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There was always politics in linux and linux in politics …. it is the black sheep that can’t be locked up and it can’t be killed or controlled, with the exception of fouls who think FOSS and politics don’t mix and accept Industrial trojan products as Free and Open … when they invest millions for controlling and derailing what they can’t control otherwise and directly as owners.
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TRUTH BOMB ignited but brainwashed users remain clueless and being “led to the slaughter” while useful idiots toe the crony corporatism narrative as expected!
You made a very good title and applaud your lone voice (can anyone tell me who else does this comprehensively?)
Things are way more insidious than systemDevil and all the other ilks which Joborun, antiX and others on your hardcore list are shouting out at the top of their lungs.
Remember how they pull off the UEFI deception? Who is the “consortium” behind the UEFI agenda? The usual suspects: AMD, Apple, IBM, Intel, Microsoft…. etc
Just as you pointed out “Is MS IBM Google HP … Oracle, Qt .. part of the same club with the military industrial complex?”
Take care and stay vigilant and safe Mate!
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You and anyone else, can not de-politicize FOSS, it is insane. To work, produce, and make available to all indiscriminately, without a direct exchange for the work or the product, is by far more political than the state controlled capitalism and exchange system the soviets ever achieved. Unlike the soviet fantasy, FOSS is closer to real communism than they ever envisioned.
But they left a back door open, that those with money and power can produce enough open free code to steer interest and direction back to where they can control it all. And the weak in spirit fell for the fluff, the icons, the clicks, the guis, the automation. The candy and heroine of FOSS. You want gparted and synaptics/pamac to open with a click from a menu, you have to pass your control of the system to someone else who provides that “luxury”.
It is a feel good dead spirit society, whose creativity can only be expressed by selecting mass produced industrial products.
“This is me, my bike, my loft, my car, my sport, my hobby of assembling productX, my music, my ‘friends’, …” it is as if everyone is just a combination of AI options. You just click options and develop a personality. Gnome and Plasma users installing flatpaks ..
Industrial trash planet, no spirits, just material wasteland.
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builds Linux distros without systemd:
claims communists are the true libertarians:
“…mmm…to be moronical… an imbecile…like the dumbest MF that ever lived…”
“…it’s almost like I had to fool my mind into believing it wasn’t retarded…”
“…playin’ a guy who ‘aint smart but thinks he is… that’s tricky…
…it’s an art form…. you’re an artist… hats off for going there…”
“…wait,… what?”
“…you’re serious? you don’t know? everybody knows you never go full retard…
…you went full retard man…”
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i think it’d be better to cover the recent s6/66 incident, rather than writing some borderline relevant political opinions.
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Can you give a good link to information on that s6/66 incident?
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HARRISON BERGERON
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Marxists, not Marx and Engels, have blinded people with a very narrow minded perception of what equality means.
Equality is to participate as an equal in a process where all decisions about matters we have in common are made by this process. You can be tall, short, with or withour legs, deaf or blind, but when it comes to the decision of repairing the village water purification and supply, you have an equal opportunity to convince everyone else about the best way to deal with it.
Now if you think people will sit in an assembly as equals and decide there should be economic inequality, that some should work more and eat less than others, then you are simply illogical.
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Call me old school, but I think the folks that actually *build* the water purification and supply should have a greater say in how it’s done. To have a say in how things are produced, you have to produce something….
But then, that happens organically anyway when people participate voluntarily. When the productive care for the unproductive voluntarily, that’s called charity. When it’s forced against their will, that’s called socialism.
Socialism forces people to carry the weight of those who hate them, and do not appreciate them. Socialism eventually destroys all incentive to produce, and thereby brings about it’s own destruction. It achieves equity, by reducing everyone to abject poverty. But then, every student of history already knows this.
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this
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If you are subjected to limit knowledge to propaganda then yes socialism is what they had in the Soviet Union and therefore you would be right. But this you describe has little to do with socialism, it is state capitalism.
You should look it up in political philosophy texts, instead of propaganda articles pumped out by media corporations who naturally defend the system that makes them billionaires.
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That’s awfully presumtive and dismissive of you. I have done extensive research, and am fully aware of *all* common definitions of socialism. I’m likely over twice your age, and have had far more time to do so.
If you wish to argue that the description of socialism above in inaccurate, then you should actually do so.
Instead, you offer no argument at all, but rather the “Ad Hominem” that I have not “looked it up”… the very reference itself implies that you believe “truth” comes from authority (another greek “fallacy”), when in reality, authority comes from truth.
We discover truth through scientific method, applying reason and logic to objectively measurable data. There are no “short cuts” through text books or university, though those are good places (historically at least) to find such arguements. You must do the hard work of reason and logic yourself, or you betray that you are not actually interested in the truth.
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Then you must be in some world record book, and I doubt very much you are able to write even with voice activated text editing.
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If you want clean water you must work with others to get it, on tap. You can always walk to the spring and fill up a jar, but that gets old, and older when you do.
If it is ok with you to participate in production without participating in decision about production, nobody minds. Nobody will need to be dragged in by force to participate in a decision making process.
But if you don’t participate in the work others decided on you can’t consume their products either. Eventually you place your individualist self outside the community, and that is ok for the community if that is what you wanted.
Why make things complicated when they aren’t? Because that is the only way you have been indoctrinated to think like.
Already the new generations of zapatistas are about 15-30cm taller than their parents, because they live well, they work and eat well, they drink clean water, and no endemic parasites nest beside their bedrooms, as in the past.
You see this as poverty, they see it as your thinking poverty and feel really sorry.
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And now, TPTB are talking about imposing price controls. This is an earmark of communism. Socialists, through regulation and oversight burdens, artificially increase the cost of production. Eventually, only large corporations with government lobbists paying graft to get special exceptions, can afford to produce. The smaller shops have to close, and the monopolies form. In an free market, there can be no such thing as price gouging. This only occurs when government interfention creates monopolies.
So now, the artifically high cost of production results in artifically hight prices… so… socialists impose price controls, which *cannot* make people produce things at below the cost of production, so instead: Price controls make goods and services UNAVAILABLE, save through the black markets, which being illegal, cannot avail themselves of the (corrupt anyway) legal system, so organized crime thrives.
They’ve been destroying food prduction for a long time now. Killing pigs cows and chickens in the name of faux-flu… Destroying farmers in the name of climate change… destroying fertilizer by destroying production of the oil it’s made from.
Wold Wide Famine is now completely unavoidable, but now they want to speed it up through price controls. Any fool with a 110 IQ has seen this coming and made preparations. Next you’ll see them vilified as kulaks… “horders”.
No matter which “side” you think you’re on “de jure”, no matter how well prepared you are, you are very likely about to starve to death. Deagle will be proven right. Prepare accordingly, if you think you can. You will not survive in a city… you *are* food.
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It is amazing how Trumpism, worse than crack, has managed to fry more brains than any other known substance, even catholicism doesn’t come close.
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Is this ad hominem meant to pass as a rebutal?
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guess he’s still holding out for real communism, lol
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stumbled across this video which seems to be speaking directly to OP
https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/Jones-Plantation-Review-(Larken-Rose):0
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the full movie can be watched for free on tubi, but it’s larken’s comments here that I think speaks directly to OP
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I totally understand the sentiment against dbus, systemd, etc, …
However, we need to address the problem at the root cause. If we don’t address the root cause, we will keep having to address the symptoms of the root cause.
What are the root causes?
Thus, we can conclude that worshipping money as the primary god and societal acceptance of violence are the root causes of monolithic softwares like microsoft windows and systemd.
The fact that linux kernel is a monolithic kernel reflects the fact that linux kernel is largely developed by big corporations. Linus torvalds is just the lead maintainer of linux. He stopped developing linux a long time ago. He just accepts or refuses patches offered by big corporations. If big corporations moved to gnu hurd kernel, hurd will largely become monolithic. True microkernels are not possible in the world full of violence which creates monopoly which in turn creates monolithic softwares.
For many thousands of years, earth has been a planet overrun by moral relativists who believe in violence and think might makes right.
The solution is worldwide moral education. Humanity failed moral education. Government schools were created by people who believed in violence. Government schools teach moral relativism instead of objective morality. To eradicate monolithic softwares, we have to get rid of moral relativism and stop worshipping money as god.
While I agree that there should be some efforts directed at avoiding systemd, I think obsessing too much over avoiding systemd is playing to lose. That’s like avoiding civilization in caves. Avoiding civilization won’t work in the long term. We may get some short-term results like eudev and elogind which are imperfect, but we ultimately cannot avoid monolithic softwares in the long term if we don’t address the root causes. Ironically, the long-term solution to monolithic softwares is to morally educate people through alternative media outlets. Moral education is the one and only way out of the world problems. Moral education is playing to win.
My focus will be to produce contents on media production machines. I’m going to be practical, and settle with elogind and eudev for the time being. To be honest, xdg-desktop-portal is more obnoxious than elogind and eudev.
If you want to be a part of the solution, you better look for ways to get involved in media production and education. If you don’t plan to morally educate other people as widely as possible, don’t expect things to get better on multiple fronts.
The war is fought in every conceivable front by the global rulers, and software is merely one.
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To project “universal moral rules” is exactly like projecting some god/s as being real and that they exist by logical deduction. How can this morality be above humanity, who placed it there? Do animals have such morality? Are they also bound by it?
Morality is a social construct, something people think about, discuss, and collectively they can agree on. Morality comes and goes as societies change from time to time and from place to place. Maybe this is coming to an end as W.European morality is brutally mandated in every corner of the earth and those who resist it get annihilated by the war machines. The capital’s morality. Power is money and money is power, and those who have it can see no end to its use and abuse.
As anyone with metaphysical thought it is very hard to have rational conversation or use rational arguments with. You write all this totally disregarding the difference between personal and private property, and you are basing this whole argument on the premise god defined sins are universal, and that makes Europeans innocent of the genocide they committed because those sinners, natives of all other continents, couldn’t respect “private property”.
“I think obsessing too much over avoiding systemd is playing to lose. That’s like avoiding civilization in caves. Avoiding civilization won’t work in the long term. ”
The entire concept of civilization is very subjective and if you are blending civilization with science and technology there is little room to talk about anything beyond this subjectivity. Just the term “civilization” is pretty offensive and nationalistic to W.European/N.American trends of thought.
The marketing forces that have convinced enough fools to actually believe (non critically) that systemd is more advanced than runit or s6, or that it provides an improvement and is not an actual retardation of system evolution, is proof that if you can throw enough “money” to market an inferior product over the competition the market will be convinced it is best. When you get those “fan boyz” to argue about how advanced systemd is, they claim it is “the new thing”, meaning it is newer than sysv or bsd-scripts. If you then say but runit and s6 are newer than systemd, so they must be “modern” and more advanced, then they return with historic data and show NO, they started before.
There is not one single functionality that systemd contains that is any better than any alternatives. 95% of the code actually is solving problems that didn’t exist before systemd defined them and in many cases created them. It is like opening a hole on an outer wall and then claiming you need a systemd mechanism to secure the house because of the hole.
The source of the problems comes from “capital interests” dominating all aspects of life by force and violence, a totalitarianism never experienced before on earth.
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I never said I support systemd. elogind isn’t even installed on my system. I use seatd on gentoo linux. However, if I had to produce contents for moral education efficiently, I would be practical and will not rule out windows and mac os for media production. At least, mac os is efficient for media production. In that context, I don’t mind elogind too much for the purpose of efficient media production for moral education.
If you buy me macbook m3, I will gladly use it for media production.
The only thing that will increase freedom in the long term is worldwide moral education. A tiny fraction of population using seatd instead of elogind won’t increase freedom in the long term. Let’s be honest. Rearranging physical stuff in the physical reality doesn’t increase collective morality.
Sentient beings who can understand objective morality are bound by the consequences of ignoring objective morality. The law of freedom states that collective freedom is directly proportionate to collective morality.
Animals don’t have the capacity to understand morality. That’s why they can’t ever rise above stealing lives of each other for food. However, that’s not slavery. Slavery is different from theft that’s not considered legitimate. No animal thinks murder and theft are legitimate. The animals just steal from and murder other animals without thinking that they have the right to do so.
On the other hand, humans can understand objective morality, and they have the capacity to falsely believe that they have the right to initiate harm on other sentient beings. For example, nazis. Most people on earth are basically nazis to varying degrees. Most people are immoral.
In simple terms, people are only free to the degree that they collectively avoid initiating harm on other sentient beings including animals. As I already wrote above, harm is defined by 7 deadly sins. Murder, rape, theft, trespass, willful deception, coercion, and assault.
I don’t know what you are trying to say. Are you trying to say some people have a natural right to initiate harm on other sentient beings? Do you think other people to have a right to steal from you or rape you if they have enough power?
What you are talking about is moral relativism and social darwinism. If people combine social darwinism and moral relativism, they end up saying “might makes right”. You are just saying we can’t rise above “might makes right”. That’s not true.
At least, animals use might without claiming to have a right to steal from other animals. Animal kingdom is full of thieves and murderers, but it’s not systemic slavery.
“might makes right” menality leads to systemic organized slavery.
Consciousness affects the results of quantum physics experiments, and that’s not possible if consciousness is a result of mere brain activities. In reality, matter exists inside consciousness. Even brain exists inside consciousness. That consciousness is ultimately the creator’s consciousness. We live as residents in the creator’s mind. The creator’s mind is so powerful it can simulate an entire physical universe precisely like a computer simulation.
If the creator doesn’t exist, of course, morality can never be objective. Only the creator has the power to define right and wrong objectively. If you deny that right and wrong are objective, then you are left with “might makes right” or various other forms of moral relativism.
Moral relativism is the idea that humans can change right and wrong on whims. That means those with the most power end up defining right and wrong through man-made laws.
Earth is ruled by satanists. 4 main tenets of satanism are selfishness as the highest goal, moral relativism, social darwinism, and eugenics(dysgenics, really). They deny God’s authority. They want to create their own fiefdom in hell. They have given a watered-down version of satanism to most people through government indoctrination centers. I mean government schools. Most people are de-facto satanists who are satanists in deed, but they are not real satanists.
If at least 51% of humanity accept objective morality, people on earth will largely be free. 51 is the magical number among the ruling class. May 1st is a major day for the ruling class.
All cultural religions have been subverted by the ruling class. They all support government and man-made laws. The original sin represented by eating apples from a tree is taking it upon ourselves to arbitrate right and wrong. I mean the original sin is moral relativism. An intelligent species that commits the original sin cannot be free. I mean people cannot be free if they initiate violence upon each other endlessly. People are only free to the degree that they don’t initiate violence upon other people and perhaps animals. Apple meant the authority to define right and wrong.
In theory, human freedom is possible even if humans eat animals, but people who don’t care about stealing animal lives are much less likely to care too much about human freedom.
In the universe, only the creator has the authority to define right and wrong. The creator is the only lawmaker we have.
Good luck denying God. If you keep denying God’s authority, God will stay away from you and let other people eat you.
I don’t like God much, but I at least accept its authority.
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