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Always quiet sounds<br \/>As traffic purrs dim cat lights in the street.<br \/>Windows are dark in darkness curtains drawn<br \/>So many million. City I was born<br \/>In your warm heart my first breath to its beat<br \/>And hope to die according to your laws<br \/>Breathing your scented passioned poison air<br \/>Surrounds me chokes me black dust in my hair<br \/>I drink dark milk protected by your claws<br \/>Gog Magog Bran and dragons in the stone<br \/>You gave me all the words I write breathe own.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/551645.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/551311.html","pubDate":"Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:03:59 GMT","title":"What it says","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/551311.html","description":"ON LIGHT<br \/><br \/>Sentience basks where crystals just reflect.<br \/>Blind kittens stretch and mew into the sun<br \/>Soft pressure on their skin. There's straight lines run<br \/>From us out to the Oort. And intellect<br \/><br \/>Is only part. The dance skin bits and dust<br \/>Dance beams in shutter sudden open rooms<br \/>The hopeless loss choke premature dark tombs<br \/>We yearn for its eye stroke. It is a lust<br \/><br \/>Lash feather kiss on cheek is just its shade<br \/>First and last thing controlling metaphor<br \/>Exploded monobloc no thing before<br \/>Fire of all green, virtue's discerning blade<br \/><br \/>We do not know it yet it is our world<br \/>Round it and time mind lies in comfort curled","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/551311.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550924.html","pubDate":"Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:02:36 GMT","title":"A poem sort of about science","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550924.html","description":"LORENZO ON LANIAKEIA<br \/><br \/>A feather or a skeleton of leaf<br \/>A spiderweb that blows in breeze when torn<br \/>Out on the edge of nothing we are born<br \/>Blue void's close neighbour. Fragment of belief<br \/><br \/>In our significance what's certain is elsewhere<br \/>Some Great Attractor pulls ethereal tide<br \/>Towards it mighty structures wave and glide<br \/>And interpenetrate<br \/>Stars blink grow dim or glare.<br \/><br \/>Irrelevant that great strain swell stress<br \/>The music of the spheres a greater choir<br \/>Than we could hear. And all of our desire<br \/>Achievements loves hatreds and sordid mess<br \/><br \/>Less than we know. And yet our purblind eyes<br \/>Only perceiver as it swells and dies.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550924.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550724.html","pubDate":"Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:22:51 GMT","title":"My poem about the death of my mother","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550724.html","description":"ASLEEP<br \/><br \/>Her breathing on that last day soft and slow<br \/>A little troubled moments then to calm<br \/>And back to sleep. I reached and stroked her arm.<br \/>Was that we both were there something she'd know<br \/><br \/>Or had that passed ? Eyes flicked from side to side<br \/>Hearing two voices. Did she recognize<br \/>That I was there? She looks up and then tries<br \/>To wake a little. On the train I cried.<br \/><br \/>And I had said goodbye and so had Jane.<br \/>It was we did not know last of her days<br \/>There is the last word that a person says<br \/>They tire. Drugs sleep and death the end of pain.<br \/>Last glimpse her sleeping face closed eyes her skin<br \/>Against the bedding pale white paper thin.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550724.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550641.html","pubDate":"Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:02:55 GMT","title":"Two Poems after Dante","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550641.html","description":"BANNON<br \/><br \/>To the ninth ditch they came. It smelled of blood<br \/>Bile feces brain smashed bone poured on the ground<br \/>And on they trudged in an eternal round<br \/>Effluents dripping into stinkclogged mud<br \/><br \/>Who stirred up strife loved war for its own sake<br \/>Turned love of god into a butcher's whore.<br \/>Profit from devil's paintbrush: it's a chore<br \/>To kill so many. Eyes cracked black opaque<br \/><br \/>Blind to their dearest enemy they mend<br \/>Their wounds nerve burn flesh knit and stretch of skin<br \/>To wholeness no remission of their sin<br \/>A demon with a great axe at the end<br \/><br \/>Halves them up, down. Tongueless they scream, 'I lied.<br \/>Spat poison. Kin church city and republic died.'<br \/><br \/> Lied sold betrayed his home his friend his kin<br \/>His city. And was taken judged and damned<br \/>Deep chillburned in eternal ice was rammed<br \/>A demon acts his part although the skin<br \/><br \/>Is seared and cracked from that corroding flame<br \/>And does not even bother with deceit<br \/>A whore fled screaming from the cloven feet<br \/>In rut protruded he pigsquealed and came<br \/><br \/>The unconvincing lies of demon scorn<br \/>Find fools enough. His lips seared from the cold<br \/>Whisper the feather reasons why he sold<br \/>Himself...and curse the day that he was born.<br \/><br \/>So many damned he taught to rape kill hate<br \/>Black crushing ice bears down with all their weight.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550641.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550197.html","pubDate":"Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:00:57 GMT","title":"David Gerrold asked what America means to us.","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550197.html","description":"AMERICA<br \/><br \/>Dance in the dark, green shimmer, outstretched leg<br \/>Inspiring muse yet moll the toe tap beat<br \/>Ragtime and rivets, burning torch to greet<br \/>Strangers, dear tawdry land I will not beg<br \/><br \/>That you fulfil your promises, our dreams.<br \/>The best of hopes most nightmare of despairs<br \/>Shining and stained a fantasy of home<br \/>Pancakes and bacon mirrorshading chrome<br \/>Striped zootest suits that anybody wears<br \/><br \/>By of and for yet choking on bloodgold<br \/>I could not breathe there where was near first free<br \/>Twirled in your air you beat charmed ravished me.<br \/>I heard the stories that your victims told<br \/><br \/>And yet your better angel at your ear<br \/>To save, while it's your demons we all fear.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550197.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550024.html","pubDate":"Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:47:52 GMT","title":"My short form reaction to Judith Butler's lecture","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550024.html","description":"ON KINSHIP PROBLEMS IN THE BACCHAE<br \/><br \/>The gods so much our kin and so unkind<br \/>Our snobbish cousins worse than we can dream<br \/>Bitch at them even slightly we blaspheme<br \/>And then are torn to bits or wake up blind.<br \/>They rape us father us. Don\u2019t criticise<br \/>Your greatgrandchildren will meet awful fates<br \/>Meet unknown mothers on the worst of dates<br \/>Have siblingchildren cause plague pluck out eyes.<br \/>Not just the Greeks. Job lost his sons and herd<br \/>Over some stupid bet. And crucified<br \/>To pay for fruit God's son poor Jesus died.<br \/>Sure fine, in the beginning was the Word,<br \/>Abstract incomprehensible and wholly writ.<br \/>God that is not our flesh less of a shit.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/550024.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549781.html","pubDate":"Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:44:43 GMT","title":"A poem about family","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549781.html","description":"THE MYSTERIOUS PEDLAR<br \/><br \/>Mum's cousin Jean had cheekbones like sharp knives,<br \/>And eyes dark passion brown as the old song.<br \/>We often get these speculations wrong<br \/>But bits of us get passed down through their lives<br \/>The ancestors of whom we hardly heard.<br \/>He was a pedlar who got sick and died<br \/>My great great grandma kneeling at his side<br \/>Who nursed him. And we don't know what occurred.<br \/>Nose aquiline and cheekbones in my blood<br \/>Irish potato face grandfather's height<br \/>My aunt's imagination these things might<br \/>Explain me. We aren't made of sun-baked mud<br \/>But generations handed flesh and bone<br \/>Remembered family and those unknown.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549781.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549408.html","pubDate":"Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:43:42 GMT","title":"One of my oldest friends just died","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549408.html","description":"FOR MIKE<br \/><br \/>We're made from ancestors. Also from friends.<br \/>Jokes. Hugs. Rebukes. The books they made us read.<br \/>They made us weep. Sometimes they made us bleed.<br \/>Violent desires have sometimes violent ends<br \/>Or wither. Friendship twines about the heart<br \/>A subtle bindweed. Can't eradicate<br \/>Mostly you don't remember place or date<br \/>Acquaintance changes and new friendshps start<br \/>Each way the fondness never quite the same<br \/>Balance of power shifts and then moves around<br \/>Differences gentle sometimes quite profound<br \/>That make us bless curse half-forget their name<br \/>Still written on our bones. A thing we find<br \/>Most when they're dead and we are left behind.<br \/><br \/>Technically Mike Dickinson was my oldest friend because apparently we had play dates when we were very tiny.<br \/><br \/>We actually met in Leeds in the 70s when he was running, part-time, the sf shelves in the local Left bookstore, and stayed in touch when I moved to London. He dragged me into SF fandom by getting me to bring the Leeds group food supplies at the 75 Heathrow Eastercon. When he was doing fanzines and editing Vector, he chivvied me into writing my first reviews. As one of the organisers of various Yorcons, he helped create a space where I felt safe in fandom post-transition and where Geoff Ryman and I had our first LGBT fandom party. And it's through him and Jackie Gresham indirectly that I met my partner. He was a significant reader for Gollancz.<br \/><br \/>He was a beefy, funny, well-read, folk-singing...He was a talented teacher and a good man.<br \/><br \/>We saw less of each other in recent years. He and Jackie had elder care responsibilities and his health declined. He died after a short illness on Friday, suddenly, in his sleep.<br \/><br \/>I have missed him and always will.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549408.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549121.html","pubDate":"Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:55:37 GMT","title":"First two poems of the year,","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549121.html","description":"LOVE ONE ANOTHER AND DIE<br \/><br \/>And in the meantime comfort all your friends<br \/>Who weep and fear and bleed. And know we may<br \/>Each dawn have that and no more of a day<br \/>Than dawn. Perhaps life, world in moments ends.<br \/><br \/>Each second then in love fierce joy and rage<br \/>Be worthy of the dawn your friend your self<br \/>Hope is a broken toy placed on high shelf<br \/>For future healing. When you turn a page<br \/><br \/>No corner turned and leave the margin blank<br \/>You read. You learn. You finish. Then the book<br \/>Is what it was. There is no second look.<br \/>It is the moment friend the dawn you thank.<br \/><br \/>Hopeless you know this is your paradise<br \/>Nature word love reflected in friends' eyes<br \/><br \/>ROMANITAS<br \/>Traitors were thrown from the Tarpeian Rock.<br \/>And parricides were drowned sewn in a sack<br \/>With ape snake cock. In deepest dungeon black<br \/>State enemies were strangled. It's a shock<br \/><br \/>To know how seriously they took such things.<br \/>Romans who'd kill such men not shed their blood<br \/>Whose death was needed for the public good.<br \/>Until the death that down the ages rings.<br \/><br \/>He lay head covered on the Senate floor.<br \/>Red stain white marble utterly pollutes<br \/>Republic done. Tall men in polished boots<br \/>Hail death their friend. Your face is pounded raw<br \/><br \/>Centuries long by treason boots and lies.<br \/>At least we know the day that freedom dies.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/549121.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548962.html","pubDate":"Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:36:29 GMT","title":"Another death poem","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548962.html","description":"IN MEMORY OF THE RED ARMY CHOIR<br \/><br \/>White snowberry deep birch wood.Crisp pure white<br \/>snow crunches under soldier boot. They sing<br \/>Joy wistful angry shouting whispering<br \/>Tenor to pierce the soul bass deep as night.<br \/>Her brown black sparkle eyes bright as her soul<br \/>Or crops that waver endless as the sea<br \/>Rich deep black soil grave of each enemy<br \/>Each generation and their voices roll<br \/>Like rivers through the heart blood workers red<br \/>Patriots shed on every inch of ground<br \/>Massage our ears that fierce and healing sound<br \/>Bayan and balalaika. And they're dead<br \/>And singers die and there is still the choir<br \/>To say the land's eternal death's a liar","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548962.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548692.html","pubDate":"Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:35:23 GMT","title":"2016 ends","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548692.html","description":"Bleakness and fall. What we hoped built is lost.<br \/>They're at the gate to kill us one by one<br \/>In line. Remember when we basked in sun<br \/>That last good time. The dice gold coin we tossed<br \/>Unthinking. Now the sky is overcast<br \/>Sleet in our bones. The uniform is thin<br \/>Shaved scalps are cold. Your bloodied mouth's a grin<br \/>Despise their future. We had such a past<br \/><br \/>They could not want or know. Yet sing it proud<br \/>Make one last perfect music as we die<br \/>True joy that shames their misery guilt lie.<br \/>Hilarious intricate and bawdy proud<br \/><br \/>We are the thrush pierces their winter night<br \/>First hint green spring in soiled grey slush mud blight.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548692.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548465.html","pubDate":"Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:31:44 GMT","title":"Another death poem...","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548465.html","description":"LEIA\/CARRIE<br \/><br \/>In white defiant. First she hides the plans<br \/>Then fires her gun. Shot left unconscious frail.<br \/>Haughty her anger spits. Her skin is pale.<br \/>No compromise. Back stiff as any man's.<br \/><br \/>She was so young then. Tough grace in defeat<br \/>Loses her world in flame. And carries on.<br \/>In her last movie loses husband son<br \/>And can endure. Sighs just for one long beat<br \/><br \/>Duty is strength. And in this awful year<br \/>And awful sequel learn that how we act<br \/>On screen in life the most important fact<br \/>Smart words good aim and that we persevere<br \/><br \/>Princess and actress shared more than a face<br \/>Wits guts survive. Like her we stand our place.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548465.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548150.html","pubDate":"Wed, 14 Dec 2016 10:40:58 GMT","title":"It really is all getting to me","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548150.html","description":"We choke on air that burns. The towers fall.<br \/>Over and over people leap through flame.<br \/>There's left no easy death. We threw that game<br \/>With broken dice. And we are guilty. All<br \/><br \/>Of us are guilty. Hopelessness is guilt.<br \/>Innocence never an option. We have lived too late.<br \/>Ashes and dried out thistles on our plate<br \/>Crushed by the fall that brick by brick we built<br \/><br \/>From plans we traced on water in the dark<br \/>Cannot remember. Paper girders tear<br \/>Confetti. In our death no justice. Bear witness<br \/>For us. We meant no harm. We heard a lark<br \/><br \/>Sing climb. And leave remembrance of that joy<br \/>To weigh against all we watched or helped destroy.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548150.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548033.html","pubDate":"Mon, 05 Dec 2016 10:20:27 GMT","title":"This is a metaphor","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548033.html","description":"WEASEL<br \/><br \/>Small teeth that bite lock to the wrist's small bones.<br \/>Cannot be shaken off. They cannot break he\u0155 supple snake strong neck.<br \/>All that she was and did they left in wreck<br \/>For god and money. All a weasel owns<br \/>Hopeless is death and hate and those sharp teeth<br \/>To hurt and worry maybe make them bleed<br \/>Small triumph but a triumph still indeed<br \/>Tear skin to ribbons. Sinews underneath<br \/>Chew useless. Palsy hand that's raised to hurt<br \/>Hang gnaw. They say it's useless to complain<br \/>At least this death will cause a little pain.<br \/>They snap her spine and leave her in the dirt.<br \/>Eventually. Remembered by her mark<br \/>Red carved in flesh she goes into the dark.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/548033.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547810.html","pubDate":"Thu, 01 Dec 2016 09:34:25 GMT","title":"I read a new translation of Rilke and suddenly saw how to do my own version","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547810.html","description":"AFTER RILKE'S <i>Archaic torso of Apollo<\/i><br \/><br \/> We cannot guess its head god glaring gaze<br \/>Apple round ripe carved eyes. But yet the stare<br \/>Persists inherent in those pecs. It's there<br \/>Glows through stone muscles like the turned down blaze<br \/><br \/>Arclight could blind. There gentle still it burns<br \/>Warm as the sweetness of the sudden smile<br \/>That comes with loin thrust, glows continues while<br \/>The body shows self glimmers as it turns<br \/><br \/>Unwhole unshamed remaining still complete<br \/>White stone that dazzles sheen as silken skin<br \/>God like a star that burns from deep within<br \/>Its every inch a friendly face to greet<br \/>Admonish you voice echo out of far<br \/>Far distant time. Be other than you are","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547810.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547446.html","pubDate":"Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:53:14 GMT","title":"Melancholic poem","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547446.html","description":"We do not choose our time. It flows around<br \/>Fingers run through like sand. We make a wave<br \/>That ebbs in seconds. And we try to save<br \/>Friends selves sink gently down without a sound<br \/>To rot in silt and leave our mark in stone<br \/>Negative space is all our love can leave<br \/>Perhaps enough. I wish I could believe<br \/>We live together friends but die alone<br \/>In moments beds a boot heel in the street<br \/>Choking our lungs. Perhaps a stroke of hand<br \/>Tracing our lips. We do not understand<br \/>When fading stops. Last thing. And yet so sweet<br \/>Sugar on tongue electric rain on grass.<br \/>Small moments bright and then the moments pass.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547446.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547323.html","pubDate":"Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:52:12 GMT","title":"Thanksgiving poem","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547323.html","description":"So much. Browned slightly black the crunch of toast<br \/>Spread thick with butter kumquat marmalade<br \/>Strong coffee. The sharp smell as it is made.<br \/>Potatoes parsnips crisp under a roast.<br \/><br \/>Squirrels at play. Magpie hops over grass.<br \/>A heron elegantly shading grey<br \/>At dusk. The sudden shrilling of a jay.<br \/>Rooks clustered solemn clergy saying mass.<br \/><br \/>Your lips on mine. Your hand between my thighs.<br \/>Your gentle breathing velvet touch all night.<br \/>Pretending you were wrong when you were right.<br \/>Decades of laughter crinkle round your eyes.<br \/>For love the lives around me tasty food.<br \/>No prayers of thanks but simple gratitude.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/547323.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546954.html","pubDate":"Mon, 14 Nov 2016 22:21:22 GMT","title":"Baba Yaga in Washington ","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546954.html","description":"BABA YAGA IN WASHINGTON<br \/><br \/>Her house's chicken legs scratch out their brains<br \/>Cell at a time. They rattle in their skulls<br \/>Like peas. She grinds them and her pestle pulls<br \/>Her mortar through their hollows. What remains<br \/>But painful slow humiliating stitch<br \/>By stitch she stuffs their dessicated skins<br \/>Sticks button eyes through squish grape mulch with pins<br \/>Their little mollusc dicks a moist red itch<br \/>They hear a gently scritch and then a hum<br \/>Crescendos like a needle. There is fire<br \/>The smell of choking dog dung nostril deep<br \/>Even in dreams their fractured boneache sleep <br \/>Boys melons cattle whip guilt and desire<br \/>A pentup bursting yet will never come.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546954.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546700.html","pubDate":"Thu, 10 Nov 2016 22:56:02 GMT","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546700.html","description":"Wait for the sharpened axe, the silken rope.<br \/>Tidy your desk, update and sign your will<br \/>Count each sand second. Always knew the bill<br \/>Arrives brown envelope. No end to hope <br \/>Some cheque is in the mail. That email said<br \/>That you'd be paid quite soon. It's what your owed.<br \/>And death is riding on Samarra road<br \/>His horse will stop and death will nod skull head<br \/>And pass the reins. Does pale horse eat ghost straw?<br \/>You search the answer google it for hours<br \/>Three kittens rolling in a bed of flowers<br \/>Time almost up we thought we would get more.<br \/>Every last second brings one more last thing.<br \/>Perhaps he'll die. Perhaps death's horse will sing.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546700.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546490.html","pubDate":"Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:16:10 GMT","title":"After an election","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546490.html","description":"And so we start again. Our friends will die<br \/>And many others whom we'll never meet<br \/>Selfharm intoxication will seem sweet<br \/>Sweeter than going on. Each time we'll cry.<br \/><br \/>And never stop. Nor take an easy road<br \/>Accomodation tiny increment<br \/>Will take you places that we never meant<br \/>Our soul flake slowly and our heart corrode<br \/><br \/>And never hope to win. It's not a game<br \/>It is a dance. Reach out and clutch a hand.<br \/>Harmony music though there is no band.<br \/>Move stately forward. It may be the same<br \/><br \/>Whether we live, are killed. Unflinching eyes<br \/>Each one that falls another hundred rise.<br \/><br \/>Live on to spite them. In the tatters dance<br \/>That they have stripped you to. Sing out the doom<br \/>That they have summoned. In this world no room<br \/>For all their wrongnesses. Come fate and lance<br \/>The boil of their delusion. Stinking pus<br \/>Will pour like torrent. But for now it swells<br \/>Condemning us to fifty different hells.<br \/>They are the problem but they think it's us.<br \/>Strawhead and sore prick nose and button eyes<br \/>Bully and scarecrow, fox ghost evil clown.<br \/>Will tear politeness kindness up and down.<br \/>High seat abominable. No surprise<br \/>Lord misrule of dead world they raised this night.<br \/>We will survive if only out of spite.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546490.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546052.html","pubDate":"Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:49:06 GMT","title":"Three poems written at Cloud Club","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546052.html","description":"TRUESONG for Coming Out Day<br \/><br \/>Voice unsupported is the strained true song<br \/>Whose sharp note is the sweetest. Harmonize<br \/>Beyond the notes we hear. Protective lies<br \/>Rhyme in the lyric. Cadence proves them wrong<br \/>Until the cadence changes, Dying fall<br \/>That chooses life alters the minor key<br \/>Triumphs the major. I that is now we.<br \/>They may hurt me. They cannot kill us all.<br \/>You tell the truth your closest sort of knew.<br \/>Most closet doors have slats that let in light<br \/>And if they hate you as indeed they might<br \/>Sad is the lilac made of pink and blue<br \/>Song you learn notes that ring enjoy and praise<br \/>Come out as rich and strange so many days.<br \/><br \/>JAGGERY REHEARSES<br \/><br \/>Compile from imperfection. Buzz and whir.<br \/>The bass strings hover like a blue green fly<br \/>Infectionate is sapphire. This is why<br \/>They play as group. Viola bows a slur<br \/>A drawl of bittersweet to complement<br \/>Voice leaps to chaos art the lyrics mean<br \/>Keyboard and drums sweet order in between.<br \/>The engine pulses. Time is held then bent<br \/>Then twisted true but never as before<br \/>Rehearsal a discussion word and sound<br \/>Arguing beauties not there until found<br \/>Nine voices talking when the head count's four.<br \/>I write in silence as an audience<br \/>Performing too but in a different sense<br \/><br \/>The briars round her are the needle's twin<br \/>That hurt her. Roses like those in her cheeks<br \/>As many as the hours and days and weeks<br \/>Of expiation for her parents' sins<br \/><br \/>The invitations that were never sent.<br \/>The evil fairy's trivial concern<br \/>Moon waxs wanes. Swift rushing seasons turn.<br \/>And was her stillness an emolient<br \/><br \/>To evil fairy's feelings? Not at all.<br \/>No blood no pain no panic. Not a snore<br \/>She threw the curse and she expected more.<br \/>Such disappointments come eventual<br \/>To all whom malice gives a dreaming hope<br \/>Never enough of anything but rope.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546052.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546000.html","pubDate":"Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:03:05 GMT","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546000.html","description":"Paul wept. Apostle to the world, he came<br \/>To Mantua and wept on Virgil's grave<br \/>A man he wished to, years too late to, save,<br \/>Longed for a saviour child, knew not his name.<br \/><br \/>'We have no hope, our comfort is desire.'<br \/>The poet spoke to poet. Limbo state<br \/>Eternity yet ticking off each date<br \/>Who know not bliss but have been saved the fire.<br \/><br \/>Dante knew Virgil. Loved. But with regret<br \/>Faith told him it was somehow not unfair<br \/>Pagans be damned yet have no pain or care.<br \/>We ditch all these concerns. And Pascal's bet.<br \/><br \/>Still care for all the wrongness of the dead<br \/>Compassion, doubt, both whisper in my head.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/546000.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/545767.html","pubDate":"Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:50:15 GMT","title":"Some thoughts on my suspension","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/545767.html","description":"As people know, I received my ballot in the Labour Party leadership election and voted rather late,  on the 14th, after a series of complaints, in the course of which I was told that a large batch had been meant to go out on 24th August and that there had been a glitch. On the 17th, I received a letter dated the 16th which said that I had been suspended from the Labour Party, and my vote disallowed, on the basis of abuse contrary to the rules which I had committed on 6th May and 3rd December as well as on other dates. Thanks to the kind offices of Jane Carnall, I have looked at my political tweets for those days and am mystified as to how I have committed abuse within the meaning of the rule book ie sexism and racism, and foul language.<br \/><br \/>On the 6th of May I said  \u2018Imagine what Labour's results in England would have been without constant plots and bitching\u2019.  On the 3rd December I was primarily involved in defending the freedom of speech of Labour Party members in the aftermath of the Syria vote, sometimes in direct dialogue with Tom Watson and Andy Burnham.  The only conceivably relevant tweets are these : \u2018 Earlier I referred to Hilary Benn as a lickspittle running dog of colonialism ad imperialism. I did not, of course, intend to hurt his feels \u2018  and \u2018 I don't especially want to swear at MPs. I will fight for the right to swear at MPs because I wish to retain the right to use biting sarcasm \u2018. A few days earlier I had said that the right to say \u2018fuck off\u2019 to Tom Watson was an important right and in reference to his vote and how disgusting I thought it, I told him that he could get me expelled if he didn\u2019t like it.  And that\u2019s it \u2013 a discussion of the role ot swearing and other forms of strong language in political discourse as a vent for strong views about mass murder as policy.<br \/><br \/>I don\u2019t swear on line regularly myself \u2013 you are more likely to find the word \u2018fuck\u2019 in my poems than in my tweets. In any case, the occasion on which Jess Phillips publicly told Diane Abbott to fuck off and boasted of having done so is pretty clear evidence that those particular words are not a disciplinary offence in the Labour Party, so foul language has to be very foul to qualify as abuse.<br \/><br \/>I didn't use the words 'fuck off' on 3rd December but my dialogue with Tom Watson would have linked to the tweet a few days earlier in which I did talk of 'the right to say fuck off to Tom Watson', which is not abuse, but a discussion of the right of free speech and its limits. That would be enough for a bot to pick up.<br \/><br \/>\u2018Lickspittle running dog\u2019 is Maoist phraseology rather than foul language and is any case something I would never use entirely seriously \u2013 it\u2019s what I said about Hilary Benn when very angry but even then it is hard to see how, though rude, it contravenes the rules. More generally, if in the heat of the moment I were to use language that could be construed as racist or sexist, which is highly unlikely, my friends would point this out to me. <br \/><br \/>I am deeply offended at my suspension and the claim that I have done something wrong. I have, however, a theory as to how it happened, a very worrying theory.  <br \/><br \/>It\u2019s hard to see how even with a lot of volunteers and staff working full time on it, the Labour Party could have managed to suspend so many people in so short a time \u2013 a record number in Labour history, I would guess, even given the rise of social media \u2013 without automating the process with bots and algorithms. <br \/><br \/>I think I have been suspended for the word \u2018bitching\u2019 which is not racist or sexist but which contains the word \u2018bitch\u2019 which is sexist. A really useless bot would pick it up and not notice the letters round it. I think furthermore that this is a plausible explanation of why so many people who have been suspended cannot imagine what they have been suspended for \u2013 no-one is doing proper quality control on bots which are primed to search for a variety of words, and do not notice when those words are syllables in larger words or if they are being used ironically, in quotation marks and in very specific contexts. <br \/><br \/>Iain McNicols is a very intelligent man and must be aware that this is happening, and I am forced to conclude that he knows and does not care. Another strong indicator as to his motives is that he has chosen to interpret the rules as meaning that anyone accused of abuse should be suspended without further ado and any investigation of the accusation deferred until after the leadership election and the conference. That decision is clearly motivated by bias \u2013 it is also the jurisprudence of the Queen of Hearts - \u2018Verdict First, Trial Afterwards\u2019 rather than anything which belongs in a democratic organization. It is a disgrace that the \u2018Corbyn\u2019s supporters are vile abusers\u2019 narrative has become so prevalent that liberal commentators are not outraged by this, even without it\u2019s being proved that the accusations are not personal denunciations but based on algorithms and bots.<br \/><br \/>It\u2019s rather worrying that the pattern of late receipt of votes, endless complaints, arrival of votes, instant suspension of membership for alleged abuse, is not limited to me but appears to be widespread. <br \/><br \/>It is also hard to see how so many people are going to get due process on the investigation and appeals procedure this side of the next General election.<br \/><br \/>It is also rather worrying that the form letter that comes out informing people of suspension tells us that we have been denounced. This creates a poisonous atmosphere both locally and, in the case of those of us who are public figures for various reasons, professionally \u2013 if in fact the denunciation has come from a piece of code rather than a person, that is particularly irresponsible of the Compliance Unit.<br \/><br \/>Further, the use of bots to decide guilt or innocence is a worrying precedent. Imagine what a totalitarian government could do with it \u2013 imagine what a government department like the DWP may be doing with it as we speak.<br \/><br \/>Cardinal Richelieu said that seven honest words were enough to find some basis to hang a man. Iain McNicol has surpassed him.","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/545767.html?view=comments#comments"},{"guid":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/545369.html","pubDate":"Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:08:04 GMT","title":"I have been suspended from the Labour Party...","author":"rozk","link":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/545369.html","description":"These are my tweets from the day on which I allegedly committed abuse.<br \/><br \/>   <br \/><br \/><br \/>    Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>    There is NO WAY to abolish online anonymity that does not put a lot of vulnerable people in danger of life and sanity.<br \/>    11 retweets 12 likes<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Earlier I referred to Hilary Benn as a lickspittle running dog of colonialism ad imperialism. I did not, of course, intend to hurt his feels<br \/>5 retweets 8 likes<br \/>Accounts<br \/>View all<br \/><br \/>   <br \/><br \/><br \/><br \/><br \/>Syrians are dying and we're discussing whether Alex Salmond made a remark that was tasteless.<br \/>4 retweets 7 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>The Mirror are running a poll for Benn as Labour Leader. So far 91% against. Let's make it 99%.<br \/>6 retweets 3 likes<br \/>In reply to Lee Weissman<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@JihadiJew But most people with religion and\/or MH issues don't shoot people. That would be people with guns.<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>I don't especially want to swear at MPs. I will fight for the right to swear at MPs because I wish to retain the right to use biting sarcasm<br \/>0 retweets 3 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted Sabine<br \/><br \/>I use my own name precisely because I have some minor privilege to withstand it. A public voice and friends.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>Sabine @ThatSabineGirl<br \/>@revmagdalen @RozKaveney Harassment and abuse happens under people's real names too, on places like Facebook.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted Dorothy Snarker<br \/><br \/>Oh FMS this is awesome.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>Dorothy Snarker @dorothysnarker<br \/>Lena Headey in a suit. This is not a drill. <a href='https:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/rsearch\/?tags=%23lesbianbatsignal'>#lesbianbatsignal<\/a> <a target='_blank' href='http:\/\/dorothysurrenders.blogspot.com\/2015\/12\/gender-fuck-thursday-lena-headey-edition.html?m=0' rel='nofollow'>http:\/\/dorothysurrenders.blogspot.com\/2015\/12\/gender-fuck-thursday-lena-headey-edition.html?m=0<\/a> \u2026 <br \/>2 retweets 2 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>To quote a figure I mostly destest - I will fight fight and fight again to save the party I somehow still manage to love.<br \/>0 retweets 2 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>I am now back to stay - somewhat to the Left of where I used to be. You can pry my Labour membership only from my cold dead fingers now.<br \/>0 retweets 4 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>I resigned from the Labour party over Gulf Part one, the abolition of Clause 4 and Ed Milliband's capitulation to a centrist narrative.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@andyburnham Social media are playing field where the vulnerable and abused have some chance of hitting back.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Online anonymity - and I speak as someone often harrassed - is more important than the hurt feelings of MPs.<br \/>11 retweets 10 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Online anonymity helps people blowing whistles in tyrannies; it helps battered wives; it helps LGBT teens with bigoted parents.<br \/>13 retweets 13 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@andyburnhammp Friends who have been subjected to staggering vileness on Twitter, simply hand their account to friends for a few days to run<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@andyburnhammp As someone who gets a lot of abuse on Twitter, I use the block and mute buttons regularly. Hence my vast calm.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>In reply to Zoe-Marie Rogers<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@ZoeMarieRogers @andyburnhammp MPs use language like scrounger in speeches which people find staggeringly offensive - will that be policed?<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>In reply to Zoe-Marie Rogers<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@ZoeMarieRogers @andyburnhammp I have been told that I on occasion make people wish they were dead by being icily polite to them.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Momentum should not be all about personal attacks on individuals. As an individual I outsource my personal attacks to nobody else.<br \/>1 retweet 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@andyburnhammp wants a code of conduct for social media. Perhaps he thinks we should all dress up in a school uniform before we tweet.<br \/>6 retweets 6 likes<br \/>In reply to Alex Gabriel<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@AlexGabriel It kept the narrative on the issue of bombing Syria not his leadership.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Polly Toynbee believes Labour should vote for war to be serious.That's pretty much  journalists demanding blood sacrifice as sign of respect<br \/>5 retweets 6 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>How much do MPS know and not say about each other's crimes? Maybe they need to be honest.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>In reply to Tom Holland<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@holland_tom @tom_watson It depends where you live. Churchill's name is mud in Wales and India. And Iraq.<br \/>3 retweets 1 like<br \/>In reply to Tom Holland<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@holland_tom @tom_watson Politicians are remembered for the worst thing they did, not the best.<br \/>1 retweet 1 like<br \/>In reply to Tom Watson \u2600\ufe0f<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@tom_watson You will recall that Byron wrote a poem about urinating on Castlereagh's grave. Poets are not nice.<br \/>0 retweets 4 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@tom_watson And if you don't like it you can expel me. You were wrong to vote for bombing.<br \/>0 retweets 4 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted Jeremy Corbyn MP<br \/><br \/>And you were the conscience of the country.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>Jeremy Corbyn MP @jeremycorbyn<br \/>In 7 days 5 million Brits change their minds on Syrian airstrikes. Concerned citizens or terrorist sympathisers? <br \/>2 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Noisy campaigns for deslection will be represented as vindictive bullying rather than democratic accountability. Don't talk about it. Do it.<br \/>8 retweets 9 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>I would suggest to Left Unity that, if deselection is an option, it should  not be loud.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Cameron did not need Labour votes. He solicited them in order to foment civil war in Labour and the pro-war faction rushed to comply.<br \/>13 retweets 6 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>I am so relieved that my MP did not vote for bombing.<br \/>1 retweet 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>My poem for the 67 Labour MPs <a target='_blank' href='http:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/532674.html'>http:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/532674.html<\/a>  I am too sick at heart to write well, and yet sometimes you have to write something.<br \/>1 retweet 3 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>This time I am not resigning from the Labour Party. I am staying to fight these war-mongers\/<br \/>8 retweets 20 likes<br \/>In reply to Jane<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@janeyotweets @UKLabour We knew a lot of the Blairite dead wood were still there. Now we know how much worse they are.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>In reply to Patrick Strudwick<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@PatrickStrud We have always been in for attacks whichever way it went, I fear.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted David Davis MP<br \/><br \/>I don't usually retweet Tories bvut everything he says is right.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>David Davis MP @DavidDavisMP<br \/>(1\/5) The arguments of those saying 'doing something in <a href='https:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/rsearch\/?tags=%23Syria'>#Syria<\/a> is better than nothing' are false. Nobody is arguing for doing nothing<br \/>5 retweets 10 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted Mark Steel<br \/><br \/>I hope they all see dead children in their dreams.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>Mark Steel @mrmarksteel<br \/>To be fair, MPs who voted for bombing assured us they 'didn't take the decision lightly'. None of them said 'I don't care so rolled a dice'.<br \/>5 retweets 5 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted<br \/><br \/>No maybe about it. <a target='_blank' href='https:\/\/twitter.com\/juliahobsbawm\/status\/672182742180888578' rel='nofollow'>https:\/\/twitter.com\/juliahobsbawm\/status\/672182742180888578<\/a> \u2026<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>This Tweet is unavailable.<br \/>0 retweets 2 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Dear Hilary Benn, if the Spectator is praising your oratory, you can be absolutely sure that you have done a really wrong thing.<br \/>39 retweets 41 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted BBC Parliament<br \/><br \/>That we care as much about brown Syrian children as we do about white black and brown British ones.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>BBC Parliament @BBCParliament<br \/>On Paris attacks @hilarybennmp \"they could have been our children... if we do not act what message will that send?\" <br \/>18 retweets 7 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted Anya<br \/><br \/>I won't even consider his issues.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>Anya @fancie18<br \/>@RozKaveney @sarahluv81 he should remember his Father's stand on Iraq<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted Steve Battlemuch<br \/><br \/>To screw Corbyn for humiliating her leadership bid presumably.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>Steve Battlemuch @Battlemuch4WW<br \/>Strange speech from @YvetteCooperMP - going to vote for bombing but states Cameron's strategy is wrong. Why then vote for it?<br \/>11 retweets 9 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted Bonnie Greer<br \/><br \/>Maybe he believes what he said. Maybe.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>Bonnie Greer @Bonn1eGreer<br \/><a href='https:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/rsearch\/?tags=%23HilaryBenn'>#HilaryBenn<\/a> made a  very good  and strong speech- in favour of the wrong policy.<br \/>This day is sad beyond measure.<br \/><a href='https:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/rsearch\/?tags=%23SyriaDebate'>#SyriaDebate<\/a>\u2026<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Yes Hilary Benn. Fight Daesh Fascism with the Saudis, Al Qaeda, Erdogan and Putin as your allies.<br \/>5 retweets 6 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Hilary Benn compares bombing Syria to the International Brigades. Their actual equivalent is the Kurdish woman jailed for trying to fight.<br \/>4 retweets 5 likes<br \/>In reply to artsyhonker\/Kathryn<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@artsyhonker You're right. He hasn't endorsed bombing without other actions but hasn't explicitly said that w\/o them it ceases to be just.<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>In reply to artsyhonker\/Kathryn<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@artsyhonker I find his position equivocal. One of the requirements of Just War is that you have a clear and achievable objective.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>In reply to artsyhonker\/Kathryn<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@artsyhonker @JustinWelby Cameron won't do ANY of those other things in practice especially not the refugee stuff.<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>I won't say anything about the LibDem decision to vote for bombing if friends don't talk about Labour bombers. We all have crosses to bear<br \/>0 retweets 3 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>The crucial way to counter Daesh\/ISIL is to be generous with refugees.<br \/>5 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>This is clearl relevant to stopping them.<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@NickCohen4 I don't want to abuse or harass MPs who vote for bombing Syria - is there an etiquette manual that indicates how rude I may be?<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>If  Putin goes on revealing this much dirt on Erdogan <a target='_blank' href='https:\/\/www.rt.com\/news\/324252-russian-military-news-briefing\/#.Vl75p6ErV04.twitter' rel='nofollow'>https:\/\/www.rt.com\/news\/324252-russian-military-news-briefing\/#.Vl75p6ErV04.twitter<\/a> \u2026 presumably Erdogan will repay in kind.Popcorn time.<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>The UN has not authorized bombing - the UN has authorised 'concerted action' which might mean sending Daesh a joint Christmas card.<br \/>0 retweets 2 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>An amplification MORE JARVIS BOLLOCKS<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>So the US is putting more boots on the ground in Syria and Iraq? Will Cameron come back next week asking to do the same?<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>If the British public has changed its mind about bombing Syria in a week, isn't that evidence that Corbyn is rather a good communicator?<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney Retweeted Another Angry Woman<br \/><br \/>Crybabies.<br \/><br \/>Roz Kaveney added,<br \/>Another Angry Woman @stavvers<br \/>hello i am a mp plx do not contact me or hold me accountable in any way or protest my murderous decisions bc thats abuse waaaaaa<br \/>0 retweets 1 like<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Why I think Dan Jarvis is wrong<br \/>2 retweets 0 likes<br \/>In reply to Mike Scott<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>@DrPlokta Which is why it is important to put pressure on Labour MPs right down to the wire.<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Prediction of a clear majority for Cameron in news bulletins. Is that actually the case?<br \/>0 retweets 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>No mention of the scepticism of the Tory dominated Foreign Affairs committee.<br \/>1 retweet 0 likes<br \/>Roz Kaveney \u200f@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015<br \/><br \/>Worrying extent to which the Today programme is presenting the Government case for bombing uncritically.<br \/>3 retweets 0 likes","comments":"https:\/\/rozk.livejournal.com\/545369.html?view=comments#comments"}]}}