Python REST framework?

Re: Python REST framework?

> [Jeremy Jones][color=blue]
> Does anyone know if there exists a Python REST (web services) framework?
> I've googled and come up short. I don't think it should be that hard to
> do ...[/color]

I'm interested. But I have been looking at the discussion on the rest
mailing list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/ and it
seems they haven't found a solution for the user:password thing yet.
Using SSL is a must, but then what? Create some unguessable URI?
That is not safe enough for banking applications etc. And using
lowlevel http stuff is also being frowned upon.

Consider creating a multiuser web-based game in a RESTful way, where
players can use a password to get access to their avatar. I haven't
figured out yet how to do such a thing according to REST, using Python
Standard Library modules.


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Re: Python REST framework?

Jeremy Jones wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Does anyone know if there exists a Python REST (web services)
> framework? I've googled and come up short. I don't think it
> should be that hard to do if one doesn't exist (famous last
> words). I guess one could subclass BaseHTTPServer and have
> specified things to do depending on the path and the method?[/color]

Not a framework, but may be of help ...

Doing REST on top of Python Web application servers like Quixote
and Twisted seems quite simple. Here is a link that might help:



And, here are several documents explaining how to add complex
logic to a REST application using a finite state machine (FSM)
model:




Dave

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Re: Python REST framework?

On 2 Sep 2003 14:52:05 -0700,
Will Stuyvesant <hwlgw@hotmail. com> wrote:[color=blue]
> I'm interested. But I have been looking at the discussion on the rest
> mailing list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/ and it
> seems they haven't found a solution for the user:password thing yet.
> Using SSL is a must, but then what? Create some unguessable URI?[/color]

I'm not on the rest-discuss list and therefore don't know what this is
referring to? What's wrong with returning an HTTP 401 Unauthorized error to
make the user provide a username and password?

--amk

Re: Python REST framework?

On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 02:52:05PM -0700, Will Stuyvesant wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
> > [Jeremy Jones]
> > Does anyone know if there exists a Python REST (web services) framework?
> > I've googled and come up short. I don't think it should be that hard to
> > do ...[/color]
>
> I'm interested. But I have been looking at the discussion on the rest
> mailing list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/ and it
> seems they haven't found a solution for the user:password thing yet.
> Using SSL is a must, but then what? Create some unguessable URI?
> That is not safe enough for banking applications etc. And using
> lowlevel http stuff is also being frowned upon.
>
> Consider creating a multiuser web-based game in a RESTful way, where
> players can use a password to get access to their avatar. I haven't
> figured out yet how to do such a thing according to REST, using Python
> Standard Library modules.[/color]

Practicality beats purity, if the only piece of state you keep is
"this guy is logged in and he authenticated as 'Bob'" then you still
get 99.99% of the cleanliness of REST. If the workarounds to make
it 100% REST-ful actually make the solution harder to use and implement
then I'll gladly be [a little bit] non REST-ty.

The point of REST is to make things easier to do and cleaner to
understand, not just so you can name drop "REST", right?

-jackdied

Re: Python REST framework?

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 14:50:19 -0400, Jeremy Jones wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Does anyone know if there exists a Python REST (web services) framework?
> I've googled and come up short. I don't think it should be that hard to
> do if one doesn't exist (famous last words). I guess one could subclass
> BaseHTTPServer and have specified things to do depending on the path and
> the method?
>
>
> Jeremy Jones[/color]

Here's a nice little REST writeup with some sample Python code by Ken
MacLeod:

<http://bitsko.slc.ut.u s/blog/restful-api.writeback>

Otherwise, as Dave Kuhlman mentions it's not that hard to build REST on
top of some of the existing frameworks like Quixote.

Van Gale

Re: Python REST framework?

> [Van Gale][color=blue]
> Here's a nice little REST writeup with some sample Python code by Ken
> MacLeod:
>
> <http://bitsko.slc.ut.u s/blog/restful-api.writeback>[/color]

Thanks for that interesting link. But I could not find the sample Python code...

Re: Python REST framework?

> [Jack Diederich][color=blue]
> Practicality beats purity, if the only piece of state you keep is
> "this guy is logged in and he authenticated as 'Bob'" then you still
> get 99.99% of the cleanliness of REST. If the workarounds to make
> it 100% REST-ful actually make the solution harder to use and implement
> then I'll gladly be [a little bit] non REST-ty.
>
> The point of REST is to make things easier to do and cleaner to
> understand, not just so you can name drop "REST", right?
>[/color]

I thought REST was about "interoperabili ty", a stupid word and I would
like another but my English is bad. The idea is that HTTP + XML is so
much standard that everybody can use your services.

But for some, think about people in the industry, the strongest
argument for REST is scalability. The web and email are the only
examples of *really* scalable application, where the numbers are
dozens of millions. And REST is the web's architecture.


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Re: Python REST framework?

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 05:14:16 -0700, Will Stuyvesant wrote:[color=blue]
> Thanks for that interesting link. But I could not find the sample Python
> code...[/color]

Oops, my apology! I just scanned the page *really fast* and the shell code
registered as Python. I better perform the sackcloth and ashes
ritual to regain Python purity.

Van