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  • pmdanger

    Best java development tool

    Hi,

    I'm new in java and my customer want an application which works under
    LINUX and WINDOWS plat forms.

    So, i though logically in JAVA.

    As i need to select my development tool, i would like to choose the
    right one and not to throw money by windows...

    - My application needs to works under WIndows XP (and developped un
    it), Windows 2003 std, and LINUX (distribution is unknown for now)

    - application must collect/write data to Microsoft SQL server
    database.

    - Must use a lot of stream video, images, TCP/IP and text file.

    As i use to work with Borland, I though about JBuilderX entreprise but
    some other tools exist like : Eclipse project or sun java studio 5.


    I would like to have your programmer's feedback about development
    tools that you use for Java and their default and qualities.

    This will help me a lot.
    thanks in advance,

    Maileen
  • jAnO!

    #2
    Re: Best java development tool


    "jAnO!" <j.groot@donots pam.kpn.com> wrote in message
    news:c1faua$n1f [email protected] om.ptt.nl...[color=blue]
    >
    > "pmdanger" <pmdanger@yahoo .com> wrote in message
    > news:a061d4f3.0 402231048.4dd64 [email protected] gle.com...
    >[color=green]
    > > I would like to have your programmer's feedback about development
    > > tools that you use for Java and their default and qualities.
    > >
    > > This will help me a lot.
    > > thanks in advance,
    > >
    > > Maileen[/color]
    >
    > I like Intellij: www.idea.com
    >[/color]

    correction:
    IntelliJ IDEA is the JetBrains IDE for pro development in Java and Kotlin. Built for your comfort, it unlocks productivity, ensures quality code, supports cutting-edge tech, and protects your privacy.

    [color=blue]
    >
    >[/color]


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    • jAnO!

      #3
      Re: Best java development tool


      "pmdanger" <pmdanger@yahoo .com> wrote in message
      news:a061d4f3.0 402231048.4dd64 [email protected] gle.com...
      [color=blue]
      > I would like to have your programmer's feedback about development
      > tools that you use for Java and their default and qualities.
      >
      > This will help me a lot.
      > thanks in advance,
      >
      > Maileen[/color]

      I like Intellij: www.idea.com



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      • Tony Burrows

        #4
        Re: Best java development tool

        On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:03:44 +0100, jAnO! wrote:
        [color=blue]
        >
        > "jAnO!" <j.groot@donots pam.kpn.com> wrote in message
        > news:c1faua$n1f [email protected] om.ptt.nl...[color=green]
        >>
        >> "pmdanger" <pmdanger@yahoo .com> wrote in message
        >> news:a061d4f3.0 402231048.4dd64 [email protected] gle.com...
        >>[color=darkred]
        >> > I would like to have your programmer's feedback about development
        >> > tools that you use for Java and their default and qualities.
        >> >
        >> > This will help me a lot.
        >> > thanks in advance,
        >> >
        >> > Maileen[/color]
        >>
        >> I like Intellij: www.idea.com
        >>[/color]
        >
        > correction:
        > www.intellij.com
        >[color=green]
        >>
        >>[/color][/color]
        Most of the time I use JEdit. A good basic IDE with lots of plug-ins for
        extra features. Because it runs in Java, then it is OS independent.

        I've tried Sun's NetBeans, which seems fine, but the project centric
        approach can be a pain. Like JEdit, use any version of Java and add extra
        APIs without problems.

        I've used JBuilder foundation under Windows. Never again! You get stuck
        with the provided version of Java, adding extra APIs is a pain and, in my
        case at least, it trashed working Java systems and would not compile/run
        code known to be correct as a result. I could no longer even do it from
        the command line as it had changed defaults in the registry.

        I've not tried Eclipse, though it's supposed to be good.

        Tony

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        • Karl von Laudermann

          #5
          Re: Best java development tool

          pmdanger@yahoo. com (pmdanger) wrote in message news:<a061d4f3. 0402231048.4dd6 [email protected] ogle.com>...
          [color=blue]
          > As i use to work with Borland, I though about JBuilderX entreprise but
          > some other tools exist like : Eclipse project or sun java studio 5.
          >
          >
          > I would like to have your programmer's feedback about development
          > tools that you use for Java and their default and qualities.[/color]

          I've never used Eclipse, but I've heard good things about it, and it
          seems to be popular. I probably would be using it if I had known about
          it a year ago, when my boss asked me to evaluate Java IDEs and pick
          one to purchase and use. But since I didn't, I went with Borland
          JBuilder.

          JBuilder is excellent, and if cost is an issue, I believe that they
          have a "personal edition" which is free. Of course it doesn't have all
          the bells and whistles of the other editions, so you should check out
          the feature matrix to see which edition has what you need.
          (http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/pdf/jbx_feamatrix.pdf)

          I would recommend that you stay away from Sun ONE Studio/NetBeans.
          I've wrestled with it once or twice, and I find it to be quite klunky
          and unintuitive, even for experienced Java developers. It's just not a
          very well designed product from a UI/usability standpoint, IMHO.

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          • Michael Scovetta

            #6
            Re: Best java development tool

            In my opinion, go with Eclipse:
            The Eclipse Foundation hosts 400+ open source projects with vendor-neutral governance, enabling global collaboration in automotive, IoT, cloud, and emerging …


            It's well supported, many plugins are available, nice framework for
            extending it. It's free, fast, written entirely in Java (read:
            cross-platform), and quite nice for large or small projects.

            It also has nice refactoring, formatting, and other nice-to-have's
            that will make your life easier.

            Michael Scovetta



            pmdanger@yahoo. com (pmdanger) wrote in message news:<a061d4f3. 0402231048.4dd6 [email protected] ogle.com>...[color=blue]
            > Hi,
            >
            > I'm new in java and my customer want an application which works under
            > LINUX and WINDOWS plat forms.
            >
            > So, i though logically in JAVA.
            >
            > As i need to select my development tool, i would like to choose the
            > right one and not to throw money by windows...
            >
            > - My application needs to works under WIndows XP (and developped un
            > it), Windows 2003 std, and LINUX (distribution is unknown for now)
            >
            > - application must collect/write data to Microsoft SQL server
            > database.
            >
            > - Must use a lot of stream video, images, TCP/IP and text file.
            >
            > As i use to work with Borland, I though about JBuilderX entreprise but
            > some other tools exist like : Eclipse project or sun java studio 5.
            >
            >
            > I would like to have your programmer's feedback about development
            > tools that you use for Java and their default and qualities.
            >
            > This will help me a lot.
            > thanks in advance,
            >
            > Maileen[/color]

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            • bangalore buddha

              #7
              Re: Best java development tool

              I have worked in previous project NetBeans on both LINUX and Windows 2000.

              NetBeans works fine on both Env.

              Remember NetBeans is built purely on JAVA
              It is free...


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              • Gregory A. Swarthout

                #8
                Re: Best java development tool

                Tony Burrows <tony@tonyburro ws.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004. 02.24.14.17.42. 486908@tonyburr ows.com>...[color=blue]
                > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:03:44 +0100, jAnO! wrote:
                >[color=green]
                > >
                > > "jAnO!" <j.groot@donots pam.kpn.com> wrote in message
                > > news:c1faua$n1f [email protected] om.ptt.nl...[color=darkred]
                > >>
                > >> "pmdanger" <pmdanger@yahoo .com> wrote in message
                > >> news:a061d4f3.0 402231048.4dd64 [email protected] gle.com...
                > >>
                > >> > I would like to have your programmer's feedback about development
                > >> > tools that you use for Java and their default and qualities.
                > >> >
                > >> > This will help me a lot.
                > >> > thanks in advance,
                > >> >
                > >> > Maileen
                > >>
                > >> I like Intellij: www.idea.com
                > >>[/color]
                > >
                > > correction:
                > > www.intellij.com
                > >[color=darkred]
                > >>
                > >>[/color][/color]
                > Most of the time I use JEdit. A good basic IDE with lots of plug-ins for
                > extra features. Because it runs in Java, then it is OS independent.
                >
                > I've tried Sun's NetBeans, which seems fine, but the project centric
                > approach can be a pain. Like JEdit, use any version of Java and add extra
                > APIs without problems.
                >
                > I've used JBuilder foundation under Windows. Never again! You get stuck
                > with the provided version of Java[/color]

                Not true. You can set up the system to recognize any number of JDKs
                and painlessly switch between them. I never use the JDK that JBuilder
                is shipped with and runs on top of.
                [color=blue]
                > adding extra APIs is a pain[/color]

                I find it quite painless myself.
                [color=blue]
                > and, in my case at least, it trashed working Java systems and would not
                > compile/run code known to be correct as a result. I could no longer even do
                > it from the command line as it had changed defaults in the registry.[/color]

                Never heard of a problem like this. I've used JBuilder from version 2
                to X (10) on Windows without incident, and versions 8 - X on Linux,
                also without incident.

                Powerful and free is a hard combination to beat!

                Greg

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                • Tom N

                  #9
                  Re: Best java development tool

                  "Gregory A. Swarthout" wrote:[color=blue]
                  > Tony Burrows wrote:[color=green]
                  > > I've used JBuilder foundation under Windows. Never again! You get[/color][/color]
                  stuck[color=blue][color=green]
                  > > with the provided version of Java[/color]
                  >
                  > Not true. You can set up the system to recognize any number of JDKs
                  > and painlessly switch between them. I never use the JDK that JBuilder
                  > is shipped with and runs on top of.[/color]

                  JBuilder Foundation (the free version) only supports one version of the JDK
                  (at least last time I tried it - about JBuilder 6 Foundation I think).

                  There was some simple method to make it use a different JDK but it would
                  only support one JDK at a time (which is not really much of a problem).


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                  • Manolis Christodoulou

                    #10
                    Re: Best java development tool

                    bangalore buddha wrote:[color=blue]
                    > I have worked in previous project NetBeans on both LINUX and Windows 2000.
                    >
                    > NetBeans works fine on both Env.
                    >
                    > Remember NetBeans is built purely on JAVA
                    > It is free...
                    >
                    > www.netbeans.org[/color]

                    It's amazing. I've used the same ZIP file to install net beans on
                    Windows and on two different distros of linux. Sometimes I forget under
                    what OS I work!

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                    • Gregory A. Swarthout

                      #11
                      Re: Best java development tool

                      "Tom N" <[email protected] u> wrote in message news:<GbW_b.753 09$Wa.20379@new s-server.bigpond. net.au>...[color=blue]
                      > "Gregory A. Swarthout" wrote:[color=green]
                      > > Tony Burrows wrote:[color=darkred]
                      > > > I've used JBuilder foundation under Windows. Never again! You get[/color][/color]
                      > stuck[color=green][color=darkred]
                      > > > with the provided version of Java[/color]
                      > >
                      > > Not true. You can set up the system to recognize any number of JDKs
                      > > and painlessly switch between them. I never use the JDK that JBuilder
                      > > is shipped with and runs on top of.[/color]
                      >
                      > JBuilder Foundation (the free version) only supports one version of the JDK
                      > (at least last time I tried it - about JBuilder 6 Foundation I think).
                      >
                      > There was some simple method to make it use a different JDK but it would
                      > only support one JDK at a time (which is not really much of a problem).[/color]

                      Not that way any more. Supports unlimited JDKs now.

                      Greg

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