java browser compatibility

Re: java browser compatibility


"Jez Naisbitt" <jez@highwater. co.uk> wrote in message
news:bpg72m$pch $1$8300dec7@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
> Hi Guys,
>
> After a break of 2 years I'm now re-visiting the world of java.
>
> I recall on my last foray that I had to stick to java 1.1 so I could[/color]
deploy[color=blue]
> applets from a server and obtain maximum compatibility with the standard
> browsers, supplied on all platforms: We live in the pre-press industry[/color]
where[color=blue]
> folk use diverse platforms such as Sparc, Mac, PC (mnimum Win2K, or XP),
> using Netscape and Internet Explorer, etc.
>
> I would like to exploit the improvements made to Java in the recent past[/color]
so[color=blue]
> hopefully things have moved along since the Java 1.1 days.
>
> I was wondering if anyone could point me at a definitive answer about the
> cross-platform, cross-browser compatibility of Java.
>
> It must acheive the following criteria:
>
> 1) Support for Java X.Y must be currently available on the standard
> browser installed on a particular OS.
> 2) Client computers therefore do not need to download 'special
> packages':e.g. new JRE, etc.
> 3) Applet must upload from server very quickly.
>
> Obviously if the JRE can be deployed from the server with a minimal impact
> on performace/upload times then I would be very grateful to hear how this
> can be done.[/color]

do you want to transfer the JRE to the users machine and install it?
if so do you need certificate so they can trust you?
[color=blue]
>
> Thanks In Advance,
>
> Jez.
>
>
>[/color]

Re: java browser compatibility

Hi,

Ideally I would prefer NOT to transfer the JRE.

Rgds,

Jez.


"nos" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:H4Oub.5025 5$Dw6.260419@at tbi_s02...[color=blue]
>
> "Jez Naisbitt" <jez@highwater. co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bpg72m$pch $1$8300dec7@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=green]
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > After a break of 2 years I'm now re-visiting the world of java.
> >
> > I recall on my last foray that I had to stick to java 1.1 so I could[/color]
> deploy[color=green]
> > applets from a server and obtain maximum compatibility with the standard
> > browsers, supplied on all platforms: We live in the pre-press industry[/color]
> where[color=green]
> > folk use diverse platforms such as Sparc, Mac, PC (mnimum Win2K, or XP),
> > using Netscape and Internet Explorer, etc.
> >
> > I would like to exploit the improvements made to Java in the recent past[/color]
> so[color=green]
> > hopefully things have moved along since the Java 1.1 days.
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone could point me at a definitive answer about[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > cross-platform, cross-browser compatibility of Java.
> >
> > It must acheive the following criteria:
> >
> > 1) Support for Java X.Y must be currently available on the standard
> > browser installed on a particular OS.
> > 2) Client computers therefore do not need to download 'special
> > packages':e.g. new JRE, etc.
> > 3) Applet must upload from server very quickly.
> >
> > Obviously if the JRE can be deployed from the server with a minimal[/color][/color]
impact[color=blue][color=green]
> > on performace/upload times then I would be very grateful to hear how[/color][/color]
this[color=blue][color=green]
> > can be done.[/color]
>
> do you want to transfer the JRE to the users machine and install it?
> if so do you need certificate so they can trust you?
>[color=green]
> >
> > Thanks In Advance,
> >
> > Jez.
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

Re: java browser compatibility

so you want to run the applet on the user's machine
but not JRE on the user's machine?

"Jez Naisbitt" <jez@highwater. co.uk> wrote in message
news:bpifhh$ot8 $1$8302bc10@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> Ideally I would prefer NOT to transfer the JRE.
>
> Rgds,
>
> Jez.
>
>
> "nos" <[email protected] > wrote in message
> news:H4Oub.5025 5$Dw6.260419@at tbi_s02...[color=green]
> >
> > "Jez Naisbitt" <jez@highwater. co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:bpg72m$pch $1$8300dec7@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=darkred]
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > After a break of 2 years I'm now re-visiting the world of java.
> > >
> > > I recall on my last foray that I had to stick to java 1.1 so I could[/color]
> > deploy[color=darkred]
> > > applets from a server and obtain maximum compatibility with the[/color][/color][/color]
standard[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > browsers, supplied on all platforms: We live in the pre-press industry[/color]
> > where[color=darkred]
> > > folk use diverse platforms such as Sparc, Mac, PC (mnimum Win2K, or[/color][/color][/color]
XP),[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > using Netscape and Internet Explorer, etc.
> > >
> > > I would like to exploit the improvements made to Java in the recent[/color][/color][/color]
past[color=blue][color=green]
> > so[color=darkred]
> > > hopefully things have moved along since the Java 1.1 days.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone could point me at a definitive answer about[/color][/color]
> the[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > cross-platform, cross-browser compatibility of Java.
> > >
> > > It must acheive the following criteria:
> > >
> > > 1) Support for Java X.Y must be currently available on the standard
> > > browser installed on a particular OS.
> > > 2) Client computers therefore do not need to download 'special
> > > packages':e.g. new JRE, etc.
> > > 3) Applet must upload from server very quickly.
> > >
> > > Obviously if the JRE can be deployed from the server with a minimal[/color][/color]
> impact[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > on performace/upload times then I would be very grateful to hear how[/color][/color]
> this[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > can be done.[/color]
> >
> > do you want to transfer the JRE to the users machine and install it?
> > if so do you need certificate so they can trust you?
> >[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > Thanks In Advance,
> > >
> > > Jez.
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

Re: java browser compatibility

Hi nos,

Not quite. Usually each client browser gets installed with a version of JRE,
perhaps not the latest, but normally there's one there.

What I want to determine is whether or not in the last two years things have
moved on from Java 1.1 being the only guaranteed compatibility level between
browsers. I.e. what level of java could I expect to be able to use as a sort
of *default* on all browsers.

This comes about since we want to keep our clients experience of OUR product
as simple and un-complicated as possible. If he has to start installing JREs
and the like (automated or not) he/she starts to complain that the system is
too difficult to use, even though this would be a one time requirement.
Customers, eh?! ;o) (At least ones in our industry sector are very difficult
to keep happy!)

So to round off, I don't want to start producing Java 1.4 code for example,
if it requires 90% of end users to load a new JRE, but if it's more like 5%
then I'm happy......even if they aren't.

Rgds,

Jez.


"nos" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:ajavb.6064 0$Dw6.327412@at tbi_s02...[color=blue]
> so you want to run the applet on the user's machine
> but not JRE on the user's machine?
>
> "Jez Naisbitt" <jez@highwater. co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bpifhh$ot8 $1$8302bc10@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=green]
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ideally I would prefer NOT to transfer the JRE.
> >
> > Rgds,
> >
> > Jez.
> >
> >
> > "nos" <[email protected] > wrote in message
> > news:H4Oub.5025 5$Dw6.260419@at tbi_s02...[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > "Jez Naisbitt" <jez@highwater. co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:bpg72m$pch $1$8300dec7@new s.demon.co.uk.. .
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > After a break of 2 years I'm now re-visiting the world of java.
> > > >
> > > > I recall on my last foray that I had to stick to java 1.1 so I could
> > > deploy
> > > > applets from a server and obtain maximum compatibility with the[/color][/color]
> standard[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > browsers, supplied on all platforms: We live in the pre-press[/color][/color][/color]
industry[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > where
> > > > folk use diverse platforms such as Sparc, Mac, PC (mnimum Win2K, or[/color][/color]
> XP),[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > using Netscape and Internet Explorer, etc.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to exploit the improvements made to Java in the recent[/color][/color]
> past[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > so
> > > > hopefully things have moved along since the Java 1.1 days.
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if anyone could point me at a definitive answer[/color][/color][/color]
about[color=blue][color=green]
> > the[color=darkred]
> > > > cross-platform, cross-browser compatibility of Java.
> > > >
> > > > It must acheive the following criteria:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Support for Java X.Y must be currently available on the[/color][/color][/color]
standard[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > browser installed on a particular OS.
> > > > 2) Client computers therefore do not need to download 'special
> > > > packages':e.g. new JRE, etc.
> > > > 3) Applet must upload from server very quickly.
> > > >
> > > > Obviously if the JRE can be deployed from the server with a minimal[/color]
> > impact[color=darkred]
> > > > on performace/upload times then I would be very grateful to hear how[/color]
> > this[color=darkred]
> > > > can be done.
> > >
> > > do you want to transfer the JRE to the users machine and install it?
> > > if so do you need certificate so they can trust you?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks In Advance,
> > > >
> > > > Jez.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]