Finding experience

Re: Finding experience

John,

Best thing you can do is assist an open-source community project and help
enhance it. In the process you will acquire the needed experience and use
this experience for your next job.

This is just a way to acquire experience without being paid. It may involve
extra effort, but you will gain the experience nobody else wants to give you
an opportunity at.


"John J. Walton" <j_walton@minds pring.com> wrote in message
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> Hi ! I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been in IT for 30
> yrs. Most of the time I have coded in Cobol on medium size systems (Data
> General, now a dinosaur). For the past 2 years I have coded in a
> proprietary, object-oriented language called Graphtalk(CSC). I have been
> studying JAVA and need very much to get into a shop that will allow me to
> improve and enhance my abilities with JAVA. As we all know, most[/color]
companies[color=blue]
> want the experience before you get the job. I guess its an old question,
> but is there any novel approaches out there with the JAVA community ???
>
>
>
>[/color]

Re: Finding experience

Thanks for the reply. Would you have any Web sites you could recommend ???
I would like to investigate that approach further.
RGonzalez <rgonzalez@f3rs olutions.com.re movethis> wrote in message
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> John,
>
> Best thing you can do is assist an open-source community project and help
> enhance it. In the process you will acquire the needed experience and use
> this experience for your next job.
>
> This is just a way to acquire experience without being paid. It may[/color]
involve[color=blue]
> extra effort, but you will gain the experience nobody else wants to give[/color]
you[color=blue]
> an opportunity at.
>
>
> "John J. Walton" <j_walton@minds pring.com> wrote in message
> news:u9cqb.1763 $Z25.80@newsrea d4.news.pas.ear thlink.net...[color=green]
> > Hi ! I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been in IT for[/color][/color]
30[color=blue][color=green]
> > yrs. Most of the time I have coded in Cobol on medium size systems[/color][/color]
(Data[color=blue][color=green]
> > General, now a dinosaur). For the past 2 years I have coded in a
> > proprietary, object-oriented language called Graphtalk(CSC). I have[/color][/color]
been[color=blue][color=green]
> > studying JAVA and need very much to get into a shop that will allow me[/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> > improve and enhance my abilities with JAVA. As we all know, most[/color]
> companies[color=green]
> > want the experience before you get the job. I guess its an old[/color][/color]
question,[color=blue][color=green]
> > but is there any novel approaches out there with the JAVA community ???
> >
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

Re: Finding experience

John,

I am in a similar predicament. I graduated from uni this year and,
despite having 4 years experience of Java, am finding in tough to find
a job because of lack of commercial experience. I've had 4 interviews
but they've always employed the candidate with some experience behind
them.

I'm now making a concerted effort to contribute to an open source
project. Have a look at http://sourceforge.net/ under the 'Project
Help Wanted' link. There are a few projects that interest me but I am
thinking about proposing a project that will involve Java, the Struts
framework, JSP/Servlets and any other technologies that may be
appropriate like JDO. I'm not sure if sourceforge is the correct forum
for me to ask for help as the project doesn't involve creating a
downloadable tool for the greater common good. The project aim is to
develop a website that will be of benefit to a local community and at
the same time help me to develop my experience along with any others
who may want to help. Let me know if you are interested.

Can anyone tell me if sourceforge would be the correct place to ask
for help in designing a website? The skills I require are database
development, Java, maybe a J2EE solution as I would like to make the
site available on mobile phones so would like to separate the business
logic from the presentation layer.

Thanks,
Nick.

"John J. Walton" <j_walton@minds pring.com> wrote in message news:<_usqb.48$ 6c3.28@newsread 1.news.pas.eart hlink.net>...[color=blue]
> Thanks for the reply. Would you have any Web sites you could recommend ???
> I would like to investigate that approach further.
> RGonzalez <rgonzalez@f3rs olutions.com.re movethis> wrote in message
> news:hvjqb.9301 $jW5.216667@twi ster.tampabay.r r.com...[color=green]
> > John,
> >
> > Best thing you can do is assist an open-source community project and help
> > enhance it. In the process you will acquire the needed experience and use
> > this experience for your next job.
> >
> > This is just a way to acquire experience without being paid. It may[/color]
> involve[color=green]
> > extra effort, but you will gain the experience nobody else wants to give[/color]
> you[color=green]
> > an opportunity at.
> >
> >
> > "John J. Walton" <j_walton@minds pring.com> wrote in message
> > news:u9cqb.1763 $Z25.80@newsrea d4.news.pas.ear thlink.net...[color=darkred]
> > > Hi ! I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been in IT for[/color][/color]
> 30[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > yrs. Most of the time I have coded in Cobol on medium size systems[/color][/color]
> (Data[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > General, now a dinosaur). For the past 2 years I have coded in a
> > > proprietary, object-oriented language called Graphtalk(CSC). I have[/color][/color]
> been[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > studying JAVA and need very much to get into a shop that will allow me[/color][/color]
> to[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > improve and enhance my abilities with JAVA. As we all know, most[/color][/color]
> companies[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > want the experience before you get the job. I guess its an old[/color][/color]
> question,[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > but is there any novel approaches out there with the JAVA community ???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color][/color]