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[Bugfix][Quantization] Index INT8 MoE per-channel weight scales independently of act quant - #58570

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Fixes #58532

QuarkW8A8Int8MoEMethod can load static per-tensor activation scales with per-output-channel weight scales. The legacy Triton fused_experts path still used per_act_token_quant to pick both layouts, so static activations (per_act_token_quant=False) also took the tensor weight-scale branch. Routed experts' channel scales were ignored.

This keeps the legacy static-INT8 path (no oracle migration) and splits the two flags:

  • int8_w8a8_moe_quant_config now takes per_out_ch_quant and Quark/compressed-tensors/online INT8 callers set it from the actual weight scheme.
  • The shared non-block W8A8 Triton kernel indexes A scales with per_act_token_quant / per_channel_quant and W scales with per_out_ch_quant.

No open PR already covers this combo. #57092 is the opposite mixed case (per-token acts + per-tensor weights) and is still open.

Test Plan

.venv/bin/python -m pytest tests/kernels/moe/test_int8_moe_scale_layout.py -v

CPU tests cover config flags, Quark static INT8 per_out_ch_quant, and that fused_experts / the Triton launcher forward the flags independently. The GPU perturbation case is skipped without CUDA. Triton-only launcher checks skip when Triton backends are unavailable.

No model eval: this is scale indexing, not a serving/accuracy algorithm change.

AI assistance was used to implement and write tests; a human should review the diff before merge.

Test Result

tests/kernels/moe/test_int8_moe_scale_layout.py
4 passed, 3 skipped

Passed: quant-config flags, Quark static per-channel / per-tensor configs.
Skipped: Triton launcher / fused_experts forwarding (no working Triton in this env) and GPU perturbation (no CUDA).
Ruff check on the changed files passed.

…endently of act quant

Static per-tensor INT8 activations can be paired with per-output-channel
weight scales, but the legacy Triton fused_experts path used
per_act_token_quant to select both activation- and weight-scale layouts.
That made per-channel W13/W2 scales look like one scalar per expert.

Pass per_out_ch_quant through int8_w8a8_moe_quant_config and index
weight vs activation scales independently in the shared non-block W8A8
kernel.

Fixes vllm-project#58532

Signed-off-by: GokayAI <[email protected]>

Co-authored-by: GokayAI <[email protected]>

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…Triton

The config/Quark assertions still run on CPU. The launcher and fused_experts
forwarding checks need a working Triton install, so skip them otherwise.

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Hi @gokay-ai, I'm the reporter of #58532. As mentioned in the issue and my comment on #57092, I've also been working on this fix.

My implementation is available on this branch, currently at commit eef5974.

Since our implementations substantially overlap, would you be open to comparing the patches and combining the work into a single PR? I'd be happy to coordinate the remaining work and preserve attribution for the contributions incorporated.

I also have local L20 validation results, summarized below.

Local validation results and remaining checks

Tested source states

These results were collected from local working trees before publication:

The published commit has a different parent, so these results should not be interpreted as a fresh test run of the exact published HEAD.

Correctness results

Check Result
Deterministic W13/W2 reproductions on M and P Expected failures: maximum absolute errors of 0.5 and 0.375 respectively; baseline and unrouted-expert controls passed
Same reproductions on A and PA Passed with exact equality (rtol=atol=0)
INT8/FP8 × four activation/weight scale combinations 8 passed
Scale shape and stride cases 10 passed, including [E,1,1] and noncontiguous layouts
Tail/padding cases 2 passed
Quark static INT8 production-path regression Passed
Two-GEMM regression with distinct A1/A2 and W13/W2 scales Passed against an independent reference
Final targeted group 23 passed on A and 23 passed on PA
INT8 oracle tests 8 passed, 1 XPU-only skip
Opposite-layout FP8 regression associated with #57092 2 passed
Selected modular, block-INT8 and unquantized regressions Passed
torch.compile(fullgraph=True) and CUDA Graph replay Passed with nonuniform scales; in-place scale updates were reflected correctly

Environment and limitations

  • NVIDIA L20 (SM89), Python 3.12.14, PyTorch 2.13.0+cu129, CUDA runtime 12.9, Triton 3.7.1.
  • Python/Triton code came from the tested checkouts; compiled extensions were reused from an existing environment. A clean build was blocked by GCC 10.2.1 being below the required 11.3.
  • Four Hopper SWAP_AB cases were collected and skipped on L20; actual SM90 execution remains pending.
  • Static Quark INT8 MoE model-level evaluation remains pending.
  • Ruff format/lint and git diff --check passed. The full pre-commit run was blocked by hook-environment download failures.
  • The exact published commit still needs validation after the base change.

Quark static INT8 reports its activation and weight scale layouts from the
weight qscheme string, which couples the two. Read each layout off the
quant key that describes it instead:

- per_act_token_quant from the activation quant key
- per_out_ch_quant from the weight quant key

This keeps per-channel weights with static per-tensor activations (the
legacy fused_experts path) correct now that the shared Triton kernel
indexes the two layouts independently.

Also consolidate tests: the Quark scale-layout cases become a parametrized
test in tests/quantization/test_quark.py, and the tautological quant-config
factory tests are dropped. Intercept the vllm::fused_experts custom op in
test_fused_experts_forwards_independent_scale_flags, since patching
fused_experts_impl no longer takes effect (and the op only has CUDA/Meta
kernels, so a CPU test must patch at the op boundary).

Signed-off-by: Felix Marty <[email protected]>

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LGTM, this PR fixes a real bug where QuarkW8A8Int8MoEMethod supports:

  • weight key: kInt8StaticChannelSym
  • activation key: kInt8StaticTensorSym

which currently dispatches on legacy fused_experts. Other model producers do NOT support mixed per-channel / per-tensor schemes like this, hence the bug from my understanding.

#58672 will be lighter once this fix is merged.

As per #61024, in a followup PR, FusedMoEQuantConfig should leverage QuantKey and stop using these custom per_act_token_quant and per_out_ch_quant flags, so part of this is temporary.

Move the scale-layout coverage into tests/quantization/test_quark.py and
drop the standalone tests/kernels/moe/test_int8_moe_scale_layout.py:

- the flag cases stay parametrized over weight/activation quant key pairs
  (per-channel weights with static per-tensor activations report
  per_out_ch_quant=True, per_act_token_quant=False);
- the numerical case is driven through
  QuarkW8A8Int8MoEMethod.get_fused_moe_quant_config() so it exercises the
  production legacy fused_experts path, and it fails on the pre-fix code
  where routed experts' per-channel W13/W2 scales were ignored;
- the two kernel-plumbing tests are dropped: both flags now travel with
  the quant config (see the TritonExperts/BatchedTritonExperts changes),
  and the numerical case covers the behaviour end to end.

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✅ Triggered Buildkite CI #97277 for commit f595a08b3f55.

ℹ️ This PR is 4 commits behind upstream main. Merged upstream main into this branch as f595a08b3f55 before starting CI. Pull the branch before pushing more changes.

…cher default

invoke_fused_moe_triton_kernel, dispatch_fused_moe_kernel,
fused_experts_impl and invoke_moe_batched_triton_kernel gained an explicit
per_out_ch_quant flag. Defaulting it to False silently changed behaviour
for callers that only set per_channel_quant: those used to get per-channel
weight scales and would now read a single per-expert (per-tensor) scale,
which produces wrong numbers instead of failing.

Default the flag to None and resolve it to the activation layout flag when
unset, so pre-existing callers keep their old behaviour and only callers
that state the weight layout use the new, decoupled indexing. With that,
models/k2_horizon.py no longer needs to pass the flag by hand.

Add a launcher test asserting that per_channel_quant=True without
per_out_ch_quant still resolves to per-channel weight scales.

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/ci cancel

@fxmarty-amd fxmarty-amd added the verified Run pre-commit for new contributors without triggering other tests label Oct 26, 2026
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✅ Requested cancellation of 1 CI build for cursor/fix-int8-moe-per-channel-scales-fda4: #97277.

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✅ Triggered Buildkite CI #97278 for commit 68cc6f7f1b75.

…ivation layout

FusedMoEQuantConfig.make and the fp8/int8/int4-w4afp8 quant config factories
gained an explicit per_out_ch_quant flag. Callers that only set
per_act_token_quant - including several FP8 MoE kernel tests and out-of-tree
code - used to get per-channel weight scales and now silently read a single
per-expert (per-tensor) scale, which produces wrong numbers instead of
failing. In CI this broke test_int8_kernel.py::test_w8a8_fp8_fused_moe and
test_triton_moe_ptpc_fp8.py::test_w8a8_fp8_fused_moe.

Default the flag to None and resolve it to per_act_token_quant when unset, so
pre-existing callers keep their old behaviour and only callers that state the
weight layout use the new, decoupled indexing. This matches the launcher
default added in the previous commit.

Signed-off-by: Felix Marty <[email protected]>
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✅ Triggered Buildkite CI #97294 for commit d98c5e1fe627.

ℹ️ This PR is 6 commits behind upstream main. Merged upstream main into this branch as d98c5e1fe627 before starting CI. Pull the branch before pushing more changes.

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ahsan-ca added a commit to ahsan-ca/vllm that referenced this pull request Oct 30, 2026
…t_ch_quant

WeightTensors.make() took the weight-scale layout from
per_act_token_quant instead of per_out_ch_quant, so configs where the
two differ were built with the wrong weight scales. This made the MI300
MoE Kernels shard 2 test fail on vllm-project#58570.

Use per_out_ch_quant, and switch the AITER padding tests (FP8 and
MXFP4) from their private _make_padding_matrix_weights() to
WeightTensors.make().

Co-authored-by: Cursor <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Ahsan Saghir <[email protected]>
ahsan-ca added a commit to ahsan-ca/vllm that referenced this pull request Oct 30, 2026
…t_ch_quant

WeightTensors.make() took the weight-scale layout from
per_act_token_quant instead of per_out_ch_quant, so configs where the
two differ were built with the wrong weight scales. This made the MI300
MoE Kernels shard 2 test fail on vllm-project#58570.

Use per_out_ch_quant, and switch the AITER padding tests (FP8 and
MXFP4) from their private _make_padding_matrix_weights() to
WeightTensors.make().

Co-authored-by: Cursor <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Ahsan Saghir <[email protected]>
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will land #65177 instead

@fxmarty-amd fxmarty-amd closed this Nov 2, 2026
@fxmarty-amd fxmarty-amd reopened this Nov 2, 2026
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…endently of act quant - #58570 (#65177)

Signed-off-by: Felix Marty <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Ahsan Saghir <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: GokayAI <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: GokayAI <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: vllm-agent <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Ahsan Saghir <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Cursor <[email protected]>
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