The modernized UI thread was #2737. During simplification compared to the older UI, like a regular untitled alert, the informative message at top is kind of sufficient. Additionally, in Tahoe the window title is aligned kind of weirdly with this window if it were to show up.

Since the recent change set the title (albeit invisible) it should be sufficient for your needs. Customizing the window title to something else other than localized "Software Update" has never been asked before as far as I remember -- why would you want to, short of writing a completely different user interface, which Sparkle also allows you to do.

That said, as I mentioned in my first reply, the NSWindow of the standard user interface is accessible via a private API, so customizing the title isn't impossible, but not that well supported.

The modernized UI thread was #2737. During simplification compared to the older UI, like a regular untitled alert, the informative message at top is kind of sufficient. Additionally, in Tahoe the window title is aligned kind of weirdly with this window if it were to show up.

thanks. will read.

but the title of the Window is not related to what is seen on the screen. for example in my screenshots above, the "Characters Window" is just a small window without any border, title bar etc. still has a title that is reachable by multiple macOS APIs, like https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coregraphics/cgwindowlistcopywindowinfo(_:_:)

Since the recent change set the title (albeit invisible) it should be sufficient for your needs. Customizing the window title to something else other than localized "Software Update" has never been asked before as far as I remember

🫰 thanks!

-- why would you want to, short of writing a completely different user interface, which Sparkle also allows you to do.

coz it's fun. can call it kindaVim's Software Update if in serious mood, or something very funny if not. doesn't seem far fetched to me 😂

see what i'm talking about regarding my own Window with a title. doesn't mean it has to be a full window with title bar etc.:

Not disagreeing or misunderstanding with anything you said, just need to consider the 99% case of what the framework needs to support and what things are easily customizable vs not.

no worries. thanks for taking the time!