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P2Important issues not at the top of the work lista: accessibilityAccessibility, e.g. VoiceOver or TalkBack. (aka a11y)f: scrollingViewports, list views, slivers, etc.found in release: 2.1Found to occur in 2.1frameworkflutter/packages/flutter repository. See also f: labels.has reproducible stepsThe issue has been confirmed reproducible and is ready to work onplatform-iosiOS applications specificallyteam-iosOwned by iOS platform teamtriaged-iosTriaged by iOS platform team

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@yama3nomori
yama3nomori
opened on Mar 30, 2021

TalkBack can announce 'A to B of C' on ListView() when I scrolled lists.
But VoiceOver cannot announce it and focus vertical a scrollbar.
Visual impaired users cannot understand how long they scroll lists.

Scrollbar(
child: ListView(
  children: <Widget>[
  Text('item 1'),
  Text('item 2'),
  Text('item 3'),
  // and more items ...
  ],
),
),

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  2. darshankawar commented on Mar 30, 2021

    @darshankawar
    darshankawar
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    @yama3nomori
    Same as #79354 (comment). Please provide details as requested in your earlier issue.

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  4. yama3nomori commented on Apr 2, 2021

    @yama3nomori
    yama3nomori
    on Apr 2, 2021
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    If ListView() is displayed vertical scrollbar, I think this issue don't need.
    Unfortunately, I could not see it_I'm blind person.

    Does it need Scrollbar() when I use ListView()?

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  6. darshankawar commented on Apr 5, 2021

    @darshankawar
    darshankawar
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    @yama3nomori
    ListView doesn't explicitly provide a scrollbar and hence you may use Scrollbar widget to wrap around ListView().

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  8. yama3nomori
    changed the title [-]VoiceOver cannot announce vertical Scrollbar[/-] [+]VoiceOver cannot focus vertical Scrollbar[/+] on Apr 5, 2021

  9. yama3nomori commented on Apr 5, 2021

    @yama3nomori
    yama3nomori
    on Apr 5, 2021
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    I understand about the scrollbar.

    Usually VoiceOver can focus and swipe up or down of one finger gesture to scrollbar.
    But Flutter app cannot do that.

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  11. darshankawar commented on Apr 6, 2021

    @darshankawar
    darshankawar
    on Apr 6, 2021
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    @yama3nomori
    Using your code sample above and with voiceover, I was able to swipe up or down using one finger properly.
    Can you elaborate on the issue ?

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  13. yama3nomori commented on Apr 6, 2021

    @yama3nomori
    yama3nomori
    on Apr 6, 2021
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    You were able to do that, weren't you?
    Maybe it's impossible to do that.
    Because VoiceOver cannot focus vertical scrollbar.
    If you swipe up or down, you cannot scroll lists.

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  15. darshankawar commented on Apr 6, 2021

    @darshankawar
    darshankawar
    on Apr 6, 2021
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    Can you check this issue and see if it is similar to your ?

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  17. darshankawar commented on Apr 7, 2021

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    darshankawar
    on Apr 7, 2021
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    flutter doctor -v 
    [✓] Flutter (Channel master, 2.1.0-13.0.pre.496, on Mac OS X 10.15.4 19E2269
    darwin-x64, locale en-GB)
    • Flutter version 2.1.0-13.0.pre.496 at
      /Users/dhs/documents/fluttersdk/flutter
    • Framework revision 026ee9756c (35 minutes ago), 2021-04-06 21:52:35 -0700
    • Engine revision 92f4dfb048
    • Dart version 2.13.0 (build 2.13.0-208.0.dev)

[!] Xcode - develop for iOS and macOS
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    • Xcode 12.3, Build version 12C33
    ! CocoaPods 1.9.3 out of date (1.10.0 is recommended).
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        Without CocoaPods, plugins will not work on iOS or macOS.
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      To upgrade see
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      instructions.

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    • Chrome at /Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome

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    • Flutter extension version 3.20.0

[✓] Connected device (3 available)
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      • iOS 14.4.1
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      darwin-x64     • Mac OS X 10.15.4 19E2269 darwin-x64
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! Doctor found issues in 1 category.
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    changed the title [-]VoiceOver cannot focus vertical Scrollbar[/-] [+]A11Y VoiceOver cannot focus vertical Scrollbar[/+] on Nov 20, 2021
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    changed the title [-]A11Y VoiceOver cannot focus vertical Scrollbar[/-] [+][A11y] VoiceOver cannot focus vertical Scrollbar[/+] on Nov 21, 2021
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