I personally feel like we should stop using non specific label names, like snagit itself. This happens with apps which have yearly or versioned releases but don't automatically let users upgrade. If someone isn't paying for 2025, they may overlook the PR. Yes that's on them but I don't feel there's a benefit to use name only, like snagit.

What we can do is make the snagit label be a placeholder and produce a special log line similar to how googlechrome does it. Or we can just remove the label entirely.

@acodega But the vendor has dropped the year nomenclature moving forward. There is no more Snagit 2025 and there will not be a Snagit 2026. It is just Snagit. The version code will still have a year in it but from what it seems, the .dmg file will just be snagit.dmg moving forward too. The link is now just this: https://download.techsmith.com/snagitmac/releases/snagit.dmg

The reason is, licensing moved to subscription based rather than version specific licensing: https://support.techsmith.com/hc/en-us/articles/31112245401229-Maintenance-Transitioning-to-a-Business-License-Subscription-FAQ

Maybe we make the newest one snagitbusiness ?

I think snagitbusiness makes the most sense. Let's do that. I suppose we should ditch snagit2025 then and just use snagitbusiness ?

I think snagitbusiness makes the most sense. Let's do that. I suppose we should ditch snagit2025 then and just use snagitbusiness ?

@acodega Yes. But let's change this label back to snagit2024 and I will go and submit an official new label for snagitbusiness to incorporate a Snagit 202x+ evergreen label moving forward

Sorry all, but I didn't realize this particular PR was overlapping a bit with the fixes I was doing for the URL download issues. I fixed all of the Snagit labels in PR #2637 and also added support for the "2025" version while I was at it. I hadn't read any of this and just followed suit with the previously established pattern in my fixes.

Although not appended to the app name any longer, the year is still considered the major version for releases, and update feeds still seem to be separated by it.

Snagit Business is a license type, but I'm not sure it makes sense to make special label for it, as it (as well as Education) still look to use the same installers and updaters as "Individual" licenses do. I personally feel that makes it more confusing than less when choosing an update - Its still Snagit 2025 regardless of whether it is licensed as an "Individual", "Business", or "Education".

I do get the worry about the general one changing the year on people who may not be ready for it, though. I would say just have them all be with a year, and no general "snagit" at all.

My two cents anyway!

So, I guess I'm a bit confused. There is currently an active issue with Snagit (and I would guess Camtasia as well). None of the feed/urls in the existing labels are working. The fixes in #2637 were more involved than just what is being talked about here - it made them work again. I feel like the functionality needs to be fixed before we discuss "new directions"... I know my org needs them to be operational regardless of what they are called or how they are handled moving forward.

So, I guess I'm a bit confused. There is currently an active issue with Snagit (and I would guess Camtasia as well). None of the feed/urls in the existing labels are working. The fixes in #2637 were more involved than just what is being talked about here - it made them work again. I feel like the functionality needs to be fixed before we discuss "new directions"... I know my org needs them to be operational regardless of what they are called or how they are handled moving forward.

Totally agree! We definitely need to update all of them with the proper URLs as the current ones are now broken since TechSmith changed their Sparkle Feed URLs and whatnot.

@acodega Can we reopen #2637 and send out to merge.

As for the naming with 2025 and on, even though there is different parameters of licensing @kernsb , the main thing is, all Snagit versions moving forward are no longer a perpetual license key and are subscription based so your key that you enter will work with every new release from here on. Though I see what you mean in regards to the fact that the actual URL path will still have the year baked in before the dot release after it so 2025.x and then 2026.x for this part: https://www.techsmith.com/redirect.asp?target=sparkleappcast&product=snagitmac&ver=2025.0.0&lang=enu&os=mac

I suppose we just drop the "snagit" label altogether @acodega and continue the year label as we have been so we make what is currently "snagit" as "snagit2025" and use the @kernsb 's https://github.com/kernsb/Installomator/blob/snagit-url-fix/fragments/labels/snagit.sh for that as well as the other commits

... As for the naming with 2025 and on, even though there is different parameters of licensing @kernsb , the main thing is, all Snagit versions moving forward are no longer a perpetual license key and are subscription based so your key that you enter will work with every new release from here on ...

Yah, I totally get what you are saying for sure. The handling of the licenses has definitely undergone a change on that end of things. I only meant that the license being applied doesn't seem to have any impact or change on the "install" and "update" scenarios - the same installers/updaters are utilized regardless of the licensing type that has been or will be applied. I think we may be saying the same thing at this point? 😂

What you propose sounds good to me!

A separate thing, and probably a separate PR, would be to keep the approach to the Camtasia labels consistent with the Snagit labels, as they are generally handled the same for the most part (apart from the app names).

I have created new PRs for both Snagit and Camtasia fixing these issues, and aligning as discussed above:

Snagit: #2642
Camtasia: #2641

2641 and 2642 have been accepted.