Landing lag adjustments by SuddyN · Pull Request #2442 · HDR-Development/HewDraw-Remix

SuddyN · 2024-06-14T01:17:33Z

While we would appreciate you reading the entirety of this post for some insights into developer thought processes, here is a TL;DR of what is happening:

The landing lag changes as a whole are being reverted (the parry and shield changes which were included in the initial patch will continue to stay in the game and receive support and iteration)
Organizational changes will be made to both the dev team internally and to the HewDraw Remix public discord server to make presenting feedback more straightforward and streamlined.

Read more: https://hdr-development.github.io/posts/landing-lag-postmortem/

Shield

Aerial shieldstun multiplier: 1.0x -> 1.35x -> 1.0x

Landing Lag Adjustments

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Mario

[-] Nair: 7 -> 8 -> 7
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Uair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[=] Dair: 12 -> 12 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Donkey Kong

[-] Nair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Fair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] Bair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Uair: 13 -> 14 -> 13
[-] Dair: 14 -> 16 -> 14
[-] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 6 -> 5

Link

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 6
[-] Fair: 8 -> 12 -> 8
[-] Bair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Uair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] Dair: 18 -> 20 -> 18
[=] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 5 -> 5

Samus

[-] Nair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Fair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Bair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Uair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Zair: 17 -> 20 -> 17
[-] SSpecial: 4 -> 10 -> 4
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Yoshi

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 12
[-] Bair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 14 -> 16 -> 14
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Kirby

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Bair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Fox

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 15 -> 16 -> 15
[-] Bair: 10 -> 11 -> 10
[-] Uair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] NSpecial: 4 -> 6 -> 4
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Pikachu

[=] Nair: 9 -> 9 -> 9
[-] Fair: 11 -> 12 -> 11
[-] Bair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Uair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[=] Dair: 15 -> 15 -> 15
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Luigi

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 11 -> 12 -> 11
[-] Bair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Uair: 7 -> 8 -> 7
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Ness

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Captain Falcon

[-] Nair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Fair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Bair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Jigglypuff

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 9 -> 10 -> 9
[-] Dair: 12 -> 13 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Peach

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Uair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Dair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Float Cancel: 4 -> 6 -> 4
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Bowser

[-] Nair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Fair: 13 -> 14 -> 13
[-] Bair: 13 -> 14 -> 13
[-] Uair: 12 -> 13 -> 12
[-] Dair: 21 -> 21 -> 21
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Ice Climbers

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Dair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Sheik

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Bair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Dair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] NSpecial: 9 -> 10 -> 9
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Zelda

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Bair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Dair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] NSpecial: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] SSpecial: 4 -> 6 -> 4
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Dr. Mario

[-] Nair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Fair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Bair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Uair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Dair: 13 -> 14 -> 13
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Pichu

[-] Nair: 7 -> 8 -> 7
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] Uair: 9 -> 10 -> 9
[-] Dair: 14 -> 15 -> 14
[-] Heavy Landing: 3 -> 5 -> 3

Falco

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Bair: 10 -> 11 -> 10
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] NSpecial: 4 -> 6 -> 4
[=] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 5 -> 5

Marth

[-] Nair: 8 -> 12 -> 8
[-] Fair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 8 -> 12 -> 8
[-] Dair: 16 -> 18 -> 16
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Young Link

[-] Nair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Fair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Bair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Uair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Dair: 16 -> 18 -> 16
[-] Zair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Ganondorf

[-] Nair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Fair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Dair: 15 -> 17 -> 15
[-] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 6 -> 5

Mewtwo

[-] Nair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[=] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 5 -> 5

Roy

[-] Nair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Fair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Bair: 12 -> 16 -> 12
[-] Uair: 8 -> 12 -> 8
[-] Dair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 6 -> 5

Game & Watch

[-] Nair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Fair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Bair: 12 -> 13 -> 12
[=] Uair: 10 -> 10 -> 10
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] NSpecial: 4 -> 6 -> 4
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Metaknight

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 13 -> 14 -> 13
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Pit

[-] Nair: 9 -> 10 -> 9
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[=] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 5 -> 5

Zero Suit Samus

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Zair: 14 -> 17 -> 14
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Wario

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[=] Dair: 29 -> 29 -> 29
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Snake

[-] Nair: 12 -> 13 -> 12
[-] Fair: 14 -> 16 -> 14
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Ike

[-] Nair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Fair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] Bair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Uair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Dair: 12 -> 16 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Squirtle

[-] Nair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Fair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Dair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Ivysaur

[-] Nair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Fair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Bair: 8 -> 12 -> 8
[-] Uair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Charizard

[-] Nair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Fair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Bair: 12 -> 16 -> 12
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Dair: 14 -> 16 -> 14
[-] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 6 -> 5

Diddy Kong

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 11 -> 12 -> 11
[-] Bair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Lucas

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Dair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Zair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Sonic

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Dair: 16 -> 18 -> 16
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

King Dedede

[-] Nair: 11 -> 12 -> 11
[-] Fair: 14 -> 15 -> 14
[-] Bair: 11 -> 12 -> 11
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Dair: 15 -> 18 -> 15
[+] Heavy Landing: 6 -> 5 -> 6

Olimar

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Bair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Uair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] NSpecial: variable (min 2) -> 6 -> variable (min 2)
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Lucario

[-] Nair: 7 -> 11 -> 7
[-] Fair: 8 -> 12 -> 8
[-] Bair: 12 -> 16 -> 12
[-] Uair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Dair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] DSpecial: 4 -> 6 -> 4
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Rob

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Dair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Toon Link

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Uair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Dair: 17 -> 19 -> 17
[-] Zair: 15 -> 16 -> 15
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Wolf

[-] Nair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Villager

[-] Nair: 7 -> 8 -> 7
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Megaman

[-] Nair: 7 -> 8 -> 7
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 14 -> 15 -> 14
[=] UAir: 17 -> 17 -> 17
[-] Dair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Wii Fit Trainer

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 9 -> 10 -> 9
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Rosalina

[-] Nair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Little Mac

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Bair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Uair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Greninja

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Bair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[=] DAir: 20 -> 20 -> 20
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Palutena

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Dair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Dark Pit

[-] Nair: 9 -> 10 -> 9
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[=] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 5 -> 5

Pac-Man

[-] Nair: 7 -> 8 -> 7
[-] Fair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Bair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Uair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Lucina

[-] Nair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Fair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Bair: 11 -> 15 -> 11
[-] Uair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Dair: 12 -> 16 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Robin

[-] Nair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Fair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Bair: 11 -> 15 -> 11
[-] Uair: 11 -> 15 -> 11
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Shulk

[-] Nair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Fair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Bair: 14 -> 17 -> 14
[-] Uair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Dair: 13 -> 16 -> 13
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Bowser Jr.

[-] Nair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Fair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Duck Hunt

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Ryu

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Bair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Uair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Cloud

[-] Nair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Fair: 13 -> 16 -> 13
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Dair: 15 -> 18 -> 15
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Corrin

[-] Nair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Fair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Bair: 14 -> 16 -> 14
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Dair: 12 -> 13 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Bayonetta

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Dair: 18 -> 19 -> 18
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Inkling

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Daisy

[-] Nair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Fair: 12 -> 13 -> 12
[-] Bair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Uair: 8 -> 9 -> 8
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Ridley

[-] Nair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Fair: 11 -> 12 -> 11
[-] Bair: 13 -> 14 -> 13
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Dair: 14 -> 16 -> 14
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Simon

[-] Nair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Fair: 10 -> 15 -> 10
[-] Bair: 10 -> 15 -> 10
[-] Uair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Dair: 18 -> 20 -> 18
[-] SSpecial: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Richter

[-] Nair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Fair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 18 -> 20 -> 18
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Chrom

[-] Nair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Fair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Bair: 11 -> 15 -> 11
[-] Uair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Dair: 12 -> 17 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 6 -> 5

Dark Samus

[-] Nair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[=] Uair: 10 -> 10 -> 10
[-] Dair: 13 -> 16 -> 13
[-] Zair: 10 -> 17 -> 10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

King K. Rool

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 14 -> 16 -> 14
[-] Uair: 12 -> 13 -> 12
[-] Dair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[+] Heavy Landing: 6 -> 5 -> 6

Isabelle

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[=] Fair: 10 -> 10 -> 10
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Dair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Ken

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Incineroar

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Bair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Uair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Dair: 15 -> 16 -> 15
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Piranha Plant

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Bair: 14 -> 15 -> 14
[-] Uair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Dair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Joker

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Uair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Dair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] NSpecial: (neutral/up/down) 4/10/10 -> 6/12/12 -> 4/10/10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Hero

[-] Nair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Fair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Bair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Uair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Dair: 13 -> 16 -> 13
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Banjo

[-] Nair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Fair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Bair: 12 -> 13 -> 12
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 18 -> 19 -> 18
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Terry

[-] Nair: 7 -> 10 -> 7
[-] Fair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Byleth

[-] Nair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Fair: 11 -> 15 -> 11
[-] Bair: 12 -> 16 -> 12
[-] Uair: 12 -> 16 -> 12
[-] Dair: 20 -> 21 -> 20
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Min Min

[-] Nair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Fair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Dair: 13 -> 16 -> 13
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Steve

[-] Nair: 6 -> 9 -> 6
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 18 -> 20 -> 18
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Sephiroth

[-] Nair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Fair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[-] Bair: 15 -> 18 -> 15
[-] Uair: 14 -> 17 -> 14
[=] Dair: 30 -> 30 -> 30
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Pyra

[-] Nair: 9 -> 13 -> 9
[-] Fair: 10 -> 14 -> 10
[-] Bair: 11 -> 15 -> 11
[-] Uair: 8 -> 12 -> 8
[-] Dair: 14 -> 17 -> 14
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Mythra

[-] Nair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Fair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Dair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Kazuya

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Bair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[=] Dair: 27 -> 27 -> 27
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Sora

[-] Nair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Uair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Dair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Mii Brawler

[-] Nair: 7 -> 8 -> 7
[-] Fair: 9 -> 11 -> 9
[-] Bair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Uair: 8 -> 10 -> 8
[-] Dair: 12 -> 14 -> 12
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 5 -> 4

Mii Swordfighter

[-] Nair: 8 -> 11 -> 8
[-] Fair: 11 -> 13 -> 11
[-] Bair: 9 -> 12 -> 9
[-] Uair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Dair: 12 -> 15 -> 12
[=] Heavy Landing: 5 -> 5 -> 5

Mii Gunner

[-] Nair: 7 -> 9 -> 7
[-] Fair: 10 -> 12 -> 10
[-] Bair: 10 -> 13 -> 10
[-] Uair: 11 -> 14 -> 11
[-] Dair: 13 -> 15 -> 13
[-] NSpecial 2 (laser): 4 -> 6 -> 4
[-] Heavy Landing: 4 -> 6 -> 4

Hitstun

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Link

Back Air

[+] FKB (hit 1): 40 -> 47 -> 40

Samus

Forward Air

Hit 1
- [+] FKB (arm/explosion): 30/35 -> 40/45 -> 30/35
Hits 2-4
- [+] FKB (arm/explosion): 40/45 -> 50/55 -> 40/45

Up Air

Initial Hit
- [+] Additional Hitstun: -3F -> 0F -> -3F
Multihits
- [+] Additional Hitstun: -3F -> 0F -> -3F

Yoshi

Back Air

[+] BKB (hit 1/hit 2): 25 -> 30 -> 25

Down Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 5 -> 10 -> 5

Kirby

Forward Air

[+] BKB (hit 2): 35 -> 42 -> 35

Down Air

[+] BKB (ground-only): 48 -> 53 -> 48

Fox

Down Air

[+] FKB: 30 -> 35 -> 30

Pikachu

Forward Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 50/45/35 -> 52/47/37 -> 50/45/35

Jigglypuff

Down Air

Multihits
- [+] BKB (body): 10 -> 12 -> 10
- [+] FKB (foot): 30 -> 32 -> 30

Sheik

Up Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 45 -> 50 -> 45

Zelda

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 26 -> 34 -> 26
[=] Additional Hitstun (multihits): 1F -> 0F -> 1F

Pichu

Back Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 50 -> 55 -> 50

Falco

Forward Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 33 -> 43 -> 33

Marth

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (hit 1): 40/50 -> 50 -> 40/50

Young Link

Forward Air

[+] BKB (hit 1): 35 -> 42 -> 35

Back Air

[+] [+] FKB (hit 1): 40 -> 45 -> 40

Ganondorf

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (hit 1, air-only): 30 -> 35 -> 30

Mewtwo

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 15 -> 20 -> 15

Roy

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (hit 1, air-only): 30 -> 37 -> 30

Mr. Game and Watch

Neutral Air

Multihits
- [+] BKB (bowl): 26 -> 33 -> 26
- [+] FKB (fish): 35 -> 42 -> 35

Back Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 35 -> 42 -> 35

Meta Knight

Forward Air

[+] FKB (hit 1): 40 -> 45 -> 40

Pit

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 34 -> 36 -> 34

Forward Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 20 -> 25 -> 20

Up Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 36 -> 41 -> 36

Zero Suit Samus

Forward Air

[+] FKB (air-only): 50 -> 55 -> 50

Snake

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 38 -> 40 -> 38

Down Air

[+] Additional Hitstun (multihits): -5/-3/-1F -> 0F -> -5/-3/-1F

Squirtle

Back Air

[+] BKB (multihits, air-only): 35 -> 40 -> 35

Down Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 35 -> 40 -> 35

Ivysaur

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 35/45 -> 40/50 -> 35/45

Back Air

[+] BKB (hit 1): 30 -> 40 -> 30

Lucas

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 34 -> 36 -> 34

Down Air

[+] FKB (hit 1/hit 2, air-only): 30 -> 35 -> 30

King Dedede

Up Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 30/40 -> 35/45 -> 30/40

Lucario

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (hit 1): 42 -> 49 -> 42

Down Air

Hit 1
- [+] BKB (foot): 20 -> 30 -> 20
- [+] FKB (leg, ground-only): 25 -> 35 -> 25

ROB

Up Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 35/45 -> 40/50 -> 35/45

Down Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 40 -> 45 -> 40

Toon Link

Up Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 35 -> 40 -> 35

Villager

Back Air

[+] BKB: 35 -> 40 -> 35

Mega Man

Back Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 40 -> 47 -> 40
[=] Additional Hitstun (multihits): 2F -> 0F -> 2F

Wii Fit Trainer

Neutral Air

[+] Additional Hitstun (hit 1): 0F -> 2F -> 0F

Rosalina and Luma

Forward Air

[+] Additional Hitstun (multihits): 0F -> 2F -> 0F

Greninja

Back Air

[+] BKB (hit 1/hit 2): 0 -> 5 -> 0

Up Air

[+] Additional Hitstun (multihits, air-only): 0F -> 2F -> 0F

Mii Swordfighter

Forward Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 35 -> 40 -> 35

Mii Gunner

Up Air

Un-Boosted
- [+] FKB (initial hit/multihits): 45/25 -> 52/35 -> 45/25
- [=] Additional Hitstun (multihits): 1F -> 0F -> 1F

Palutena

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 40 -> 45 -> 40

Dark Pit

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (hit 1): 45 -> 50 -> 45

Lucina

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (multihits): 40 -> 47 -> 40

Bowser Jr.

Down Air

[+] FKB: 20 -> 25 -> 20

Duck Hunt

Up Air

[+] BKB (hit 1/hit 2): 30 -> 35 -> 30

Down Air

[+] BKB (hit 1): 20 -> 25 -> 20

Corrin

Down Air

Multihits
- [+] BKB (ground-only): 33 -> 38 -> 33
- [+] FKB (air-only): 40 -> 45 -> 40

Inkling

Up Air

[+] BKB (hit 1): 40 -> 45 -> 40

Daisy

Down Air

[+] BKB (multihits, air-only): 20 -> 25 -> 20

Ridley

Forward Air

[+] BKB (hit 1/hit 2): 30 -> 35 -> 30

Simon

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 40 -> 47 -> 40

Dark Samus

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 34 -> 39 -> 34

Piranha Plant

Neutral Air

[+] BKB (multihits, Normal/Putrid/Prickly): 20/20/15 -> 25/25/20 -> 20/20/15

Back Air

[+] BKB (multihits, Putrid): 25 -> 27 -> 25

Joker

Up Air

[+] BKB (multihits): 44 -> 47 -> 44

Byleth

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (multihits, ground/air): 45/40 -> 52/47 -> 45/40

Up Air

Multihits
- [+] FKB: 45 -> 50 -> 45
- [+] Additional Hitstun: 0F -> 2F -> 0F

Mythra

Neutral Air

[+] FKB (multihits, air-only): 50 -> 57 -> 50

Sora

Forward Air

Hit 1
- [+] Additional Hitstun: 8/4F -> 10/6F -> 8/4F
Hit 2
- [+] Additional Hitstun: -1/-5F -> 1/-3F -> -1/-5F

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Revert "Dragdown compensation and shieldstun adjustment"

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SuddyN added character change For working on general character changes engine For working on engine changes semver:patch balance approved This change has been approved for balance labels Jun 14, 2024

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Landing Lag Adjustments

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Villager

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