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Tkinter code running on Anaconda Build of Python on macOS 10.14.6 crashes the windowing system #11165
Description
Consider the simple hello world on this page:
When run on macOS 10.14.6 with Anaconda 2019.7, the entire windowing system crashes (knocking the user back to the window login). I've tested this on three different machines and they exhibit the same behavior (some machines have anaconda installed for all users, some just the signed in user).
It seems to be specific to the installation of Anaconda: I've created a virtual machine running 10.14.6 containing only Python 3.7.4 (installed from python.org) and the code works as expected. However, one of the more interesting aspects of this bug is that Anaconda only needs to be installed to have the problem. If you execute the code using the standard python build, but anaconda is installed, it still crashes.
I suspect this problem relates to how anaconda installs TK/TCL packages. Something that changed in macOS 10.14.6 resulted in some kind of conflict (as it didn't crash in macOS 10.14.5).
conda info
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active environment : base
active env location : //anaconda3
shell level : 1
user config file : /Users/ben/.condarc
populated config files : /Users/ben/.condarc
conda version : 4.7.10
conda-build version : 3.18.8
python version : 3.7.3.final.0
virtual packages :
base environment : //anaconda3 (writable)
channel URLs : https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/main/osx-64
https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/main/noarch
https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/r/osx-64
https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/r/noarch
package cache : //anaconda3/pkgs
/Users/ben/.conda/pkgs
envs directories : //anaconda3/envs
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platform : osx-64
user-agent : conda/4.7.10 requests/2.22.0 CPython/3.7.3 Darwin/18.7.0 OSX/10.14.6
UID:GID : 501:20
netrc file : None
offline mode : False
conda list --show-channel-urls
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Reacted by Rike-Benjamin Schuppner, Kenneth C. Arnold, P. L. Lim, Michael Struwig, David Catteeuw, Austin Conlon, chenyuzhao98, TRN and Wesley Hileman
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Debilski commentedon Aug 5, 2019
Can confirm the problem on a fresh macOS 10.14.6 with miniconda and tk=8.6.8.
I want to add the the problem also occurred in the beta for macOS Catalina 10.15 that was released before 10.14.6 (beta 4, I think) but was then apparently resolved in the beta that arrived after 10.14.6 (beta 5). I am not testing the betas anymore currently, so I won’t be able to give further input on that.
kcarnold commentedon Aug 7, 2019
I unfortunately confirm this bug on a fresh install of both macOS 10.14.6 and Anaconda. It's clearly Apple's bug; has anyone reported it?
I've attached the full
WindowServer_2019-08-07-092951_Kenneths-MacBook-Pro.crash.txt
crashdump; here's the relevant part:
evangelos1 commentedon Aug 7, 2019
Same here, the problem started occurring after the recent update to Mojave 10.14.6. Using the stock Anaconda 2019.07 distribution.
Stannislav commentedon Aug 9, 2019
Same here - recently updated to Mojave 10.14.6 and tkinter started crashing my mac knocking me back to the login screen.
bentkidder commentedon Aug 13, 2019
Same here - reported this to Apple earlier today
chtoby commentedon Aug 16, 2019
same issue here!
jjhelmus commentedon Aug 16, 2019
This may be related to a similar issue report to conda-forge, conda-forge/tk-feedstock#36
fankaisong commentedon Aug 20, 2019
I have finally found this post. I have been searching around why I have this bug until this post
Same issue here
wmfschneider commentedon Aug 20, 2019
Same issue....
sharahamo commentedon Aug 21, 2019
Same issue here
TheodoreEhrenborg commentedon Aug 21, 2019
I have this issue on a 9-day old MacBook Pro running macOS 10.14.6 and Anaconda 2019.07. I'll report it to Apple.
TheodoreEhrenborg commentedon Aug 25, 2019
This problem does not appear when I run tk=8.6.8 and Python 3.7.0, nor does it appear when I run tk=8.6.7 and Python 3.7.0. I do experience the issue when I run tk=8.6.8 and Python 3.7.4.
sharahamo commentedon Aug 25, 2019
@TheodoreEhrenborg I can verify this. I downgraded to 3.7.0 and it works
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TheodoreEhrenborg commentedon Sep 21, 2019
@pgunn Thanks for the script. I ran "python paintman.py" and clicked on the "Work on" button. This opened a "work" window successfully. Maybe I misunderstood your instructions.
pgunn commentedon Sep 21, 2019
No, it sounds like for some reason it's crashing for me and not for you. Weird. Let me know if there's more debugging you'd like me to try to explore differences between our systems. For me that "Work on" button is the ticket to a crash.
TheodoreEhrenborg commentedon Sep 21, 2019
I agree it's weird. I hope the next macOS release fixes it.
tazzben commentedon Sep 27, 2019
Unfortunately the supplemental release (pushed out today or yesterday) does not seem to resolve this issue.
maxime915 commentedon Oct 3, 2019
I had the same issue with an anaconda environment with python3.6.9 (TkVersion=8.6), I created another environment with python 3.6.6 (TkVersion=8.6) and it works for me now (macOS 10.14.6, conda 4.7.12)
TheodoreEhrenborg commentedon Oct 4, 2019
@maxime915 Python 3.6.9 and Python 3.7.4, which both have the issue, were released in July 2019. Python 3.6.6 and Python 3.7.0, which don't have the issue, were released in 2018. It seems plausible that the issue manifests because of something that Python has changed. The actual bug could be in Python, Anaconda, or Apple. But the bug seems to be responding to some quality of more recent Python releases.
Of course, this is just speculation. I hope macOS Catalina will fix this issue, although I won't upgrade until it has been released successfully without other bugs.
Debilski commentedon Oct 4, 2019
Current Catalina beta (GM) indeed doesn’t seem to have the problem. It would still be good to see a fix on 10.14 though for users of 32 bit apps who cannot upgrade.
vichug commentedon Oct 12, 2019
i hope developers, especially in the FOSS community, won't rush to Catalina and drop support of previous OSes, as I will have to stick for a while with Mojave (and suppose i'm not the only one)
clemencebic commentedon Oct 22, 2019
I had the same problem on Mac OS 10.14.6, I am using anaconda. As I could not change the tk version without recompiling python (https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ I had to downgrade my python version. The python version 3.6.0 worked well, later and earlier version crashed.
mattsliv commentedon Nov 27, 2019
For anyone having this issue using Tk with matplotlib, I replaced
matplotlib.use('TkArg')with
matplotlib.use('MacOSX')and the issues seem to be resolved. Not sure how though.
vqbang commentedon Dec 23, 2019
@mattsliv Many thanks :D save me tons of hours on looking for a solution.
sean-johnson commentedon Jan 14, 2020
I had the same problem, I found another solution if you are using anaconda. In matplotlib's docs they recommend installing the python framework:
"On OSX, two different types of Python builds exist: a regular build and a framework build. In order to interact correctly with OSX through the native GUI frameworks, you need a framework build of Python."
https://matplotlib.org/3.1.0/faq/osx_framework.html
So following their conda recommendations I ensured python.app framework was installed on my env with
conda install python.app. Then instead of using the commandpython plot-file.pyto run my file, I usedpythonw plot-file.pyto run it. Everything worked fine.harryparker commentedon Feb 18, 2020
@sean-johnson , Thanks, for the solution. I didn't do a separate conda python install like you did. However I did do a "conda update --all" today in trying to resolve this problem. (That didn't help, although it did upgrade my python from 3.7.3 to 3.7.6.)
I tried using "pythonw -m tkinter" from the MacOS 10.14.6 Terminal. This worked successfully when doing the same with "python" instesad of "pythonw" kicked me out to the login screen as others have described.
I note that "pythonw" runs python version 3.7.0 on my machine, while "python" runs 3.7.6. This may explain why it works as others found a solution by downgrading to python 3.7.0.
qnguyenn commentedon May 20, 2020
Mac os Mojave 10.14.6. the problem come from that my python 3.7.6 is in the anaconda package
(/opt/anaconda3/bin/python) tkinter app cause the system log out abruptly.
Downloading python 3.7.6 installer (for macosx 64) from www.python.org and run the installer, python is in the system (/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/bin/python) Tkinter app work fine.
patiencing commentedon May 28, 2020
I have the same problem on MacOS 10.14.6 with Python 3.7.6, and it dosen't work for me to downgrade to 3.7.0.
I solved this problem by using old tkinter:
I uninstalled the Python3 which is downloaded from python.org (it includes tkinter 8.6), and reinstall python by Homebrew (
brew install python3). Homwbrew will install Python 3.7.7 without tkinter. So Python 3.7.7 will use the MacOS build-in tkinter(version = 8.5.9).It work fine for me.
But I don't use Anaconda, so you have to check if there are version problem. May be this documentation will help.